John S Stuart wrote:
Ten-Thousand dollars
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/QUEEN-COOL-CAT-WITH-DAVID-BOWIE-MASTER-TAPE-REEL-TO-REEL-15IPS-Freddie-Mercury-/111000845866?pt=Music_Other_Formats&hash=item19d82a7e2a
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I did buy it
John S Stuart wrote:
Ten-Thousand dollars
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/QUEEN-COOL-CAT-WITH-DAVID-BOWIE-MASTER-TAPE-REEL-TO-REEL-15IPS-Freddie-Mercury-/111000845866?pt=Music_Other_Formats&hash=item19d82a7e2a
I did buy it
This is a couple of mails of provenance.
This "Cool Cat" is another of those Fanthology tracks. The cell-phone noise pollution is not on the original track - but was accidently transferred when a text message was received during the Windows PC > CD recording process. The polluted CD was uploaded to the exclusivity of the Fanthology (as a pre-cursor to the original) and was downloaded by David R. Fuller. Now, I am not saying that David personally uploaded this track to Queenzone, but it is certainly his baby, and comes from his version.
The original "unpolluted version" remains unreleased.
This "Cool Cat" is another of those Fanthology tracks. The cell-phone noise pollution is not on the original track - but was accidently transferred when a text message was received during the Windows PC > CD recording process. The polluted CD was uploaded to the exclusivity of the Fanthology (as a pre-cursor to the original) and was downloaded by David R. Fuller. Now, I am not saying that David personally uploaded this track to Queenzone, but it is certainly his baby, and comes from his version.
The original "unpolluted version" remains unreleased.
John S Stuart wrote:
Ten-Thousand dollars
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/QUEEN-COOL-CAT-WITH-DAVID-BOWIE-MASTER-TAPE-REEL-TO-REEL-15IPS-Freddie-Mercury-/111000845866?pt=Music_Other_Formats&hash=item19d82a7e2a
eBay listing is marked as 3 mins 27
This share is 3 mins 45
Fanthology
The Fanthology is an exclusive club of friends and collectors who over a number of years decided to pool their resources. In the early days we decided to upload what was available first - then share this with the general Queen public.
During those early days - David Fuller was a member - but was excluded for sharing unauthorised material. This raises all sorts of ethical questions (which I will answer) but for now; David has not been a member of the group for well over a year - and has no access to whatever has been uploaded since.
Since those early days (and building from David's duplicity) Fanthology has evolved into a much tighter and closed group.
The Fanthology is an exclusive club of friends and collectors who over a number of years decided to pool their resources. In the early days we decided to upload what was available first - then share this with the general Queen public.
During those early days - David Fuller was a member - but was excluded for sharing unauthorised material. This raises all sorts of ethical questions (which I will answer) but for now; David has not been a member of the group for well over a year - and has no access to whatever has been uploaded since.
Since those early days (and building from David's duplicity) Fanthology has evolved into a much tighter and closed group.
John S Stuart wrote:
This is a couple of mails of provenance.
This "Cool Cat" is another of those Fanthology tracks. The cell-phone noise pollution is not on the original track - but was accidently transferred when a text message was received during the Windows PC CD recording process. The polluted CD was uploaded to the exclusivity of the Fanthology (as a pre-cursor to the original) and was downloaded by David R. Fuller. Now, I am not saying that David personally uploaded this track, but it is certainly his baby, and comes from his version.
The original "unpolluted version" remains unreleased.
I do not understand what you try to say by this. Probably you want to say that I`ve stolen this track.
Although some Fanthology members are happy to make themselves public; or others forcibly "outed", the fact remains we are not some sinister New World Order or Masonic conspiracy, but genuine fans who have decided towards building the ultimate Queen collection. As we have all invested a lot of time, energies and monies (and brought a significant amount of personal material to the table); we all have as much to gain - or lose as each other. So there is no way I am going to leak Mr. X's £10,000 "Cool Cat", if s/he can leak my equally expensive "Funny How Love Is".
Those who say "there are leaks etc", have no idea about the inner workings of this group, or what is available inside it. This is why I know for 100% surety this version stems - yet again - from David Fuller.
Those who say "there are leaks etc", have no idea about the inner workings of this group, or what is available inside it. This is why I know for 100% surety this version stems - yet again - from David Fuller.
Finally; as to the ethics of a Fanthology? Well that is the $1 million question.
I have always pointed out in the past that these rarities are legally available to everyone. Again I list the above example.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/QUEEN-COOL-CAT-WITH-DAVID-BOWIE-MASTER-TAPE-REEL-TO-REEL-15IPS-Freddie-Mercury-/111000845866?pt=Music_Other_Formats&hash=item19d82a7e2a
Now; if I buy this (and there is a very strong possibility I will), I have purchased not for ownership - but to hear the thing. If it is different great; if it isn't that is my loss - but it is my gamble - and my gamble alone.
Being a collector is not a dirty word. It is not a contagious disease.
Collectables are out there, if you are willing to pay for them.
I have always pointed out in the past that these rarities are legally available to everyone. Again I list the above example.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/QUEEN-COOL-CAT-WITH-DAVID-BOWIE-MASTER-TAPE-REEL-TO-REEL-15IPS-Freddie-Mercury-/111000845866?pt=Music_Other_Formats&hash=item19d82a7e2a
Now; if I buy this (and there is a very strong possibility I will), I have purchased not for ownership - but to hear the thing. If it is different great; if it isn't that is my loss - but it is my gamble - and my gamble alone.
Being a collector is not a dirty word. It is not a contagious disease.
Collectables are out there, if you are willing to pay for them.
Thanks for the upload, personally I hate this song and usually skip past it on the album, the worst track Queen ever produced by a country mile IMHO.
Anyone who pays $10,000 for this on ebay is MENTAL.
Anyone who pays $10,000 for this on ebay is MENTAL.
John S Stuart wrote:
Finally; as to the ethics of a Fanthology? Well that is the $1 million question.
I have always pointed out in the past that these rarities are legally available to everyone. Again I list the above example.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/QUEEN-COOL-CAT-WITH-DAVID-BOWIE-MASTER-TAPE-REEL-TO-REEL-15IPS-Freddie-Mercury-/111000845866?pt=Music_Other_Formats&hash=item19d82a7e2a
Now; if I buy this (and there is a very strong possibility I will), I have purchased not for ownership - but to hear the thing. If it is different great; if it isn't that is my loss - but it was my gamble.
Being a collector is not a dirty word. It is not a contagious disease.
Collectables are out there, if you are willing to pay for them.
Have you Hangman?
Freddie`s my Hero wrote:
John S Stuart wrote:
Finally; as to the ethics of a Fanthology? Well that is the $1 million question.
I have always pointed out in the past that these rarities are legally available to everyone. Again I list the above example.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/QUEEN-COOL-CAT-WITH-DAVID-BOWIE-MASTER-TAPE-REEL-TO-REEL-15IPS-Freddie-Mercury-/111000845866?pt=Music_Other_Formats&hash=item19d82a7e2a
Now; if I buy this (and there is a very strong possibility I will), I have purchased not for ownership - but to hear the thing. If it is different great; if it isn't that is my loss - but it was my gamble.
Being a collector is not a dirty word. It is not a contagious disease.
Collectables are out there, if you are willing to pay for them.
Have you Hangman?
Oh, so suddenly you realize who you're talking to.
How very interesting, Mr Robinhood...
Freddie`s my Hero: "I do not understand what you try to say by this. Probably you want to say that I`ve stolen this track."
JSS: I have already stated "This is a couple of mails of provenance."; and that was all I had in mind - nothing more, nothing less.
I have tried to be both neutral and factual without any overt or covert bias - I just wanted to share it as it is.
There is no hidden positive or negative spin on this.
Some collectors like to know lineage because they want to know how close the track is to the source master.
I have that knowledge.
Tape > Tape > CDR > CD (phone iterference at this point) > FLAC > Fanthology > David R. Fuller > (who knows the story after this?) > Queenzone.
The last thing I want is for this to turn into a saga of "What should and what should never be."
As to your request via "Hangman" how very unoriginal - especially as you already know the answer.
JSS: I have already stated "This is a couple of mails of provenance."; and that was all I had in mind - nothing more, nothing less.
I have tried to be both neutral and factual without any overt or covert bias - I just wanted to share it as it is.
There is no hidden positive or negative spin on this.
Some collectors like to know lineage because they want to know how close the track is to the source master.
I have that knowledge.
Tape > Tape > CDR > CD (phone iterference at this point) > FLAC > Fanthology > David R. Fuller > (who knows the story after this?) > Queenzone.
The last thing I want is for this to turn into a saga of "What should and what should never be."
As to your request via "Hangman" how very unoriginal - especially as you already know the answer.
I personally hold no grudges against any Fanthologists. I wish I had the resources to gather the recordings they have but I don't so I'm certainly not entitled to them. I do thank them for what has previously been released. I won't lie and say I'm not going to take advantage of listening to something leaked:)
I know at one point it was mentioned that more fanthology items would eventually be released although the little spat with David seemed to put that on hold - is this still a possibility?
I know at one point it was mentioned that more fanthology items would eventually be released although the little spat with David seemed to put that on hold - is this still a possibility?
soxtalon wrote: ...I know at one point it was mentioned that more fanthology items would eventually be released although the little spat with David seemed to put that on hold - is this still a possibility?
It may surprise you to discover that a number of Fanthology "releases" have indeed been shared on Queezone - except they have been quietly released by individual owners - and not the trumpeted fanfare of some "Borg" type collective. It was thought the former tact was preferable to the latter.
Many Thanks for this.