demo heroic theme improvisation garden lodge

M'eh...I don't know if we should be getting up in arms about this.

First of all, the quality of the fanclub demo is no where near the quality that one would expect from a proper cd release.

Secondly, and on a related note, I find it ironic that there is hubub about the fact that a person like David Fuller posts rarities and is subjected to youtube account termination (from QPL?) only to have his SAME account linked to from BM.com an officially sanctioned website -- seems to me that people are picking their battles.

Long story short, in my mind, given the quality of the recording, I doubt there's anything to sniff about.

...my 2 cents.

Another mountain from a mole hill on QZ, laughable.

I find it hard to believe certain people who posted in this thread, and have never attended a convention, have no convention sourced recordings in their collection.

Don't publicly share them, but spread them privately no problem. lol, greedy and selfish attitude.

Exact same situation with live concert recordings, Queen have always made it clear on concert tickets that they do not want recording devices used, but we all have 300 or so concert recordings.

Any chance of a download link?

[QUOTE] [b]ole-the-first wrote:[/b]

[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]

At every convention for years, they have said:

"Do not tape and spread these recordings, or we will stop playing these rarities for you at conventions."

Take this down.[/QUOTE]

Sir, fuck you. Though having a rarities collection I myself not a big fan of leaks, but still fuck you. Don't defend interests of QPL. Since they're not releasing anything, they can go fuck themselves. Their defenders can do the same thing.[/QUOTE]


Oleg QPL is watching you. Please behave decently QPL the largest company which is not interested in what it thinks of this as you are. Feel comfortable, brother!
You have all the demos. Why do you need to get them from QPL?

[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]

[QUOTE] [b]ole-the-first wrote:[/b]

Since they're not releasing anything, they can go fuck themselves.
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Would you mind defining "anything" ?

This may not be the best time to inform you of the 2011 album remasters with a dozen bonus tracks that weren't even known about prior to the press releases. I guess you didn't hear about these ?? :-)

Not to mention the Queen and Freddie documentaries that were sprawling with new material. And the pending Rainbow 74 release.[/QUOTE]




Leave the boy alone. He doesn't think that speaks ;-)

[QUOTE] [b]Marknow wrote:[/b]



Exact same situation with live concert recordings, Queen have always made it clear on concert tickets that they do not want recording devices used, but we all have 300 or so concert recordings.[/QUOTE]


Hi Mark, not quite the same. People recording concerts, would not stop Brian or Roger from ever touring again,(Badgers & Sarina might though!!!!) But....recording Demo's at conventions "When asked not to" would stop GB ever airing stuff again at cons'. Not that Greg would spit the dummy out, but more-so that he would get his legs slapped by QPL & told that he can never air theses rare demo's at conventions again. The first step to this problem was for us now have to put up with "Property of Queen Productions" running through them, next step, no demos aired at all, So all the convention go-ers would lose out. Personally for me, the archive sessions are the best part of the conventions.

Ironically, I'm 100% convinced that the reason we got "Property Of..." plastered all over the later Archive session tracks is NOT because previous sessions had been recorded by attending fan(s), but because someone leaked copies of the actual CDs Greg played.
Now, HOW do you think that happened.....?

Of course people are going to record what GB plays at the conventions, many do and always will. Convention attendees of course enjoy the treat of listening to what Greg plays, and a fair amount of them record and circulate these recordings during the weekend. They are well spread by the final day on Monday, always have been and always will be, if you personally do not record you know someone who will and will catch them for a copy before you go home. That's the reality of the situation and has been for years. If you get to hear a demo or any other kind of snippet, you are going to forget about it in 2 weeks, that's why people do copy what Greg plays and always will. Greg is not so thick that he does not know it goes on, but he has to stick to his mantra.

And it's not just nasty little kids from QZ either, not by a long shot, the biggest offenders are well into their 40's or 50's. People need to get off their high horse on this subject, especially those who have obtained convention recordings for their collections. QTV versions of Argentina 1981 & Hyde Park 1976 are convention sources too, we all have them.

I think my main problem with the situation is that people who attend Conventions are somehow viewed by QPL as the deserving and chosen few, better fans than those who do not attend. I personally would love to go, not just for GB's spot, but to put some faces to names of some people I correspond with, but I simply cannot blow the best part of a £1000 to get to the east of England every year and I'm only across the pond in Ireland, imagine how left out life long South American, Japanese fans etc feel, it will never be feasible for them to attend conventions. But as a life long fan I feel I am due the same entitlements as those who do attend. And in the digital era QPL should wake up to this and address it. When these recordings are played in the public domain, albeit to a select few, only an idiot thinks nobody is recording them. I have as much right to hear this demo as any Queen fan.

It would be a shame if GB stopped playing snippets, but anyone who blames that on Yuri is fool hardy. It's just human nature, and Yuri aint even the tip of the iceberg, he was barley born when others were doing it, and that is a fact.

[QUOTE] [b]brians wig wrote:[/b]

Ironically, I'm 100% convinced that the reason we got "Property Of..." plastered all over the later Archive session tracks is NOT because previous sessions had been recorded by attending fan(s), but because someone leaked copies of the actual CDs Greg played.
Now, HOW do you think that happened.....?

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If you are implying that GB himself supplied clean copies of recordings to people you would not be the first to imply that. My sincere apologies if I misread what you are saying.

Well Mark, all of the songs played at that first Archive session leaked in 'studio quality' a few years later and they were the SAME recordings.
Someone leaked THAT CD.
Who did it we will never know...

The funniest thing about the UK Convention is that, whereas 10 years ago it was easy to find someone who was not only willing but excited to talk about archive tracks and unnofficial video and audio recordings, it's not anymore.
There's a big group of us from my neck of the woods go each year and I kid you not when I tell you that they go for the social aspect and care little for anything that's not officially released!

I'd dearly LOVE to meet some fans at this years UK convention who WANT to talk about bootlegs and archive stuff....
(Any takers?)

You may also think that there are plenty of people who record the sessions, though I think it's more likely been limited to just one or two at the most (I remember someone got caught the first year) and now that the archive sessions are held in a small room and are video, there's nobody recording them.

[QUOTE] [b]ole-the-first wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]
At every convention for years, they have said:
"Do not tape and spread these recordings, or we will stop playing these rarities for you at conventions."
Take this down.[/QUOTE]
Sir, fuck you. Though having a rarities collection I myself not a big fan of leaks, but still fuck you. Don't defend interests of QPL. Since they're not releasing anything, they can go fuck themselves. Their defenders can do the same thing.[/QUOTE]
you're a cock - of the first order.
you have no rights to demand THEY release anything, and YOU certainly have EVEN less RIGHTS to illegally sourced material just because THEY chose not to release it...it's nOT your property to decide what is and isn't released. don't like the QPL policy? then f*ck off and find another band.

^ this.

[QUOTE] [b]Yuri Queen wrote:[/b]

I uploaded this..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHpb8TSORMM

from convention[/QUOTE]

Thanks for the upload. Nice to hear once.

Thanks for the share, nice stuff for the Freddie Mercury Solo Collection re-release to come soon

Is this the time when we condemn QP because they've managed to find new recordings at some point since 2001 ?

[QUOTE] [b]thefallenqueen wrote:[/b]

Thanks for the share, nice stuff for the Freddie Mercury Solo Collection re-release to come soon[/QUOTE]



From where you know about it? You assuming, aren't you?
there were no prerequisites for this, you know