Fan Mixes: Pros&Cons

Seriously, now: you have Queen fan mixes forum here which hosts about 10 active topics a month; not even all of them being new entries. What are you people waiting for?

How can you expect new good Queen remixes to arrive if nobody’s practicing? Or, you don’t want any Queen remixes arriving at all ;-)… what do you say?

I'd say you go ahead, what's stopping you then?

"Or, you don’t want any Queen remixes arriving at all "

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[QUOTE] [b]TomP63 wrote:[/b]

I'd say you go ahead, what's stopping you then?[/QUOTE]

Yeah, well... it's so good a question I need some time :thinking:
:-D


[QUOTE] [b]mooghead wrote:[/b]

"Or, you don’t want any Queen remixes arriving at all "

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However, they do come, and the less you care the worse they are. Solutions? :-)

idiot^

at least you've stopped claiming you spelled your nick incorrectly due to copyright (hilarious)

"and the less you care the worse they are."

So my not giving a shit makes them so crap? They are only gonna get worse.......

on the basis of his [ahem] theory....the current Atomic Kitten reunion should produce some (as yet) previously unachieved levels
of audio excretia - because i (and 99.999%) of the planet couldn't give a flying fuck about it

[QUOTE] [b]mooghead wrote:[/b]

"and the less you care the worse they are."

So my not giving a shit makes them so crap? They are only gonna get worse.......[/QUOTE]

Yeah but have you ever tried the other way, like, get involved and make them better?

[QUOTE] [b]Zaza Gabor wrote:[/b]

[QUOTE] [b]TomP63 wrote:[/b]

I'd say you go ahead, what's stopping you then?[/QUOTE]

Yeah, well... it's so good a question I need some time :thinking:
:-D
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I’ve got it!!! Now I know what’s holding me back [figuratively speakin XD] from presenting my mixes to a fan site: the fans!!! They are so uninterested… rude, huh :shiver: I better go to a DJ site. I can present my Queen-mix ideas there so I can communicate and fans can dust their CDs. To each his own!

Dear fans, it’s a bit simplified, isn’t it? All fans are not the same to say the least. That’s why there’s still a discussion. Certainly, being a fan doesn’t oblige to be creative, in fact it’s the other way round. I reckon for Queen Productions [or every other production company] ideal fans are those who never think and always purchase. Because that’s what the business is all about, to sell every kind of stuff with a label on it. Then, there’re fans who have an opinion. Not like they’re unwelcome but they are a kind of a simple headache. They may refuse to buy things because they don’t like them! That’s not ideal… but what in this life is. Finally, the fans who are creative, they are the enemy. They can put the label name somewhere The Productions can’t charge. That’s really bad! Because things are not produced to become a part of fan culture, or any other kind of culture. They’re produced to be sold. That’s why fan creativity is ruled out: there’s a motive; that’s money.

What about you then, the free [and not ideal hence you got oppinions XD] fandom over there? What’s your motive when you rule out creativity?

I really like to hear creative and produced works from others, so I would say to every mixer keep going and show what they can do. Sadly, the problem is that the forum fan mix section (with all the respect) is full in a 90% of worthless disasters, which made users loose interest on them. That's why that section is a bit dead and you'll only find few interesting songs.

That doesn't mean someone has to give up, becuase as you keep on mixing, you will gain experience and knowledge which allows you to create better songs. So keep experimenting and learning till one day you can share something which surprise us all.

I don't want to be arrogant or anything like that, but my advice is that a mixer should listen carefully and check if his mix is at least enjoyable to upload and share with other people. The experience is what lets you identify that (I hear some of my first remixes not so good like at that moment). Ask to your close people to hear it and say you if it's good or can be better.

Keep on mixing!

you're not one for taking criticism are you ZZ?
the facts are simple:

if you make a bad cake - don't expect people to say they enjoy it. they make take a bite, but ultimately, they won't come back for more

also - NOT everyone can bake good cakes - which is why we don't force our cakes on others - but our tastebuds still work well enough to know when we've taken a mouthful of turd

Not sure everybody got the point due to fact my answer to TomP63 started with “I” :-)

The question is not about me, it’s about the adventure. Not all people can bake a good cake but that’s exactly why a collectively created cake at a bonfire party may well become an unforgettable adventure :-) Why do you rule the creativity out of YOUR life?

[QUOTE] [b]ciber_mato wrote:[/b]

I really like to hear creative and produced works from others, so I would say to every mixer keep going and show what they can do. Sadly, the problem is that the forum fan mix section (with all the respect) is full in a 90% of worthless disasters, which made users loose interest on them. That's why that section is a bit dead and you'll only find few interesting songs.

That doesn't mean someone has to give up, becuase as you keep on mixing, you will gain experience and knowledge which allows you to create better songs. So keep experimenting and learning till one day you can share something which surprise us all.

I don't want to be arrogant or anything like that, but my advice is that a mixer should listen carefully and check if his mix is at least enjoyable to upload and share with other people. The experience is what lets you identify that (I hear some of my first remixes not so good like at that moment). Ask to your close people to hear it and say you if it's good or can be better.

Keep on mixing![/QUOTE]

Thanks for your post! Good to hear from somebody who speaks from experience. Sure you’re not arrogant if you want others to invest more in their work; that’s only fair as long as you’ve invested in yours. However, professional sound [or other profession achievement] isn’t really the mission of fan art, a.k.a. deviant art. I’ll clarify this a little because I’d love to hear your opinion about that, too.

Deviation, or deviant art, or fan art/fan fiction is a genre of writing/drawing/audio-video mixing/etc that uses images and facts of popular culture giving them a different meaning or context; a self-preservation act in many ways given that the abovementioned facts are, as a rule, shallow and overused [right, The Queen isn’t the example of most shallow stuff around; but it still can compete for the title of being the most overused XD]. Deviant art isn’t meant to help exemplary students grow into exemplary professionals to offer exemplary products and make others exemplary consumers. In short, it’s meant to save souls and spread the attitude :-)

I realize you might be quite busy doing other things to answer this and/or this is not your cup of tea at all; but if you have time I’d appreciate you to tell how you rate the queenzone fan mix forum in terms of fan art :-)

[QUOTE] [b]Zaza Gabor wrote:[/b]

Not sure everybody got the point due to fact my answer to TomP63 started with “I” :-)
The question is not about me, it’s about the adventure. Not all people can bake a good cake but that’s exactly why a collectively created cake at a bonfire party may well become an unforgettable adventure :-) Why do you rule the creativity out of YOUR life?

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careful with your use of others' metaphors...you walked into your own trap there....there's a saying that applies to your "collective working" theory - "too many cooks spoil the broth"
as for "creativity" i tend to focus on stuff i enjoy and feel i am good at - like photography

[QUOTE] [b]brENsKi wrote:[/b]

[QUOTE] [b]Zaza Gabor wrote:[/b]

Not sure everybody got the point due to fact my answer to TomP63 started with “I” :-)
The question is not about me, it’s about the adventure. Not all people can bake a good cake but that’s exactly why a collectively created cake at a bonfire party may well become an unforgettable adventure :-) Why do you rule the creativity out of YOUR life?

[/QUOTE]
careful with your use of others' metaphors...you walked into your own trap there....there's a saying that applies to your "collective working" theory - "too many cooks spoil the broth"
as for "creativity" i tend to focus on stuff i enjoy and feel i am good at - like photography

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Uhm, well... if you have an experience of bonfire cooking you should know that few people are actually working; others are mainly giving advices XD there's a kind of self-regulation in these processes when it comes down to practice :-)

Congrats for finding something you like :-)

I made some remixes, or if you like some extended mixes Zaza. But my answer to you was merely, if you think that the forum is dead or in some sense dull, why don't you create an offer and let the folks give you some feedback.
Nevertheless, my mixes are still on the forum, but I'm no match for the likes as Lord Fickle and PiotreQ. These guys are stunning in there effort, give your ears a chance.

Cheers, Tom