GAP
Chief, I'm so glad for helping me with this. Both of you, Matt and Chief, are excllent perfomers and pretty polite. Thank you very much indeed pals!
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Chief Mouse
No problems Gap :)
Just got an idea and thought I'd post it in case I forget about it.
Matt, when you get to doing Innuendo (whenever that is) I think it would be nice if you made drums in the opening something more like the demo where there is more emphasis and punch, I don't know how to describe it but hearing the demo for me those drums make it sort of more epic sounding. I uploaded a compare to see what I mean.
Just got an idea and thought I'd post it in case I forget about it.
Matt, when you get to doing Innuendo (whenever that is) I think it would be nice if you made drums in the opening something more like the demo where there is more emphasis and punch, I don't know how to describe it but hearing the demo for me those drums make it sort of more epic sounding. I uploaded a compare to see what I mean.
C_Matt
Thank you very much GAP and Mouse! I wasn't here to read this at the time, I see, so thanks for uploading it again! Hope you both enjoy the album very much!
About 'Innuendo', it is the next album after 'Queen II'. I will have a really hard time with both of them lol!
I think I get your idea. The drums in the entire album are like artificial, even the acoustic ones. It sounds like plastic or carton to me (you can notice this really well at 'Lost Opportunitty', just listen to the kick and the snare, and the hi-hat is very panned to the right, like in 'Jazz'). I assume that in that comparison you used the 2011 remaster of the song, it has a glitch at 0:33, and I think I hear it. Specially with this song, the sound got really muddy in the 2011 remaster (mid frequencies overdose), which steals a lot of punch (lows and highs which makes the contrast). Take a listen to the original 1991 album and you'll notice a bit punchier drums sound.
This is the main objective for this album, to change the drums sound. Listen to the drum samples they used in 'I Can't Live with You', they are like empty:
About 'Innuendo', it is the next album after 'Queen II'. I will have a really hard time with both of them lol!
I think I get your idea. The drums in the entire album are like artificial, even the acoustic ones. It sounds like plastic or carton to me (you can notice this really well at 'Lost Opportunitty', just listen to the kick and the snare, and the hi-hat is very panned to the right, like in 'Jazz'). I assume that in that comparison you used the 2011 remaster of the song, it has a glitch at 0:33, and I think I hear it. Specially with this song, the sound got really muddy in the 2011 remaster (mid frequencies overdose), which steals a lot of punch (lows and highs which makes the contrast). Take a listen to the original 1991 album and you'll notice a bit punchier drums sound.
This is the main objective for this album, to change the drums sound. Listen to the drum samples they used in 'I Can't Live with You', they are like empty:
Chief Mouse
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[b]C_Matt wrote: [/b] Thank you very much GAP and Mouse! I wasn't here to read this at the time, I see, so thanks for uploading it again! Hope you both enjoy the album very much!
About 'Innuendo', it is the next album after 'Queen II'. I will have a really hard time with both of them lol!
I think I get your idea. The drums in the entire album are like artificial, even the acoustic ones. It sounds like plastic or carton to me (you can notice this really well at 'Lost Opportunitty', just listen to the kick and the snare, and the hi-hat is very panned to the right, like in 'Jazz'). I assume that in that comparison you used the 2011 remaster of the song, it has a glitch at 0:33, and I think I hear it. Specially with this song, the sound got really muddy in the 2011 remaster (mid frequencies overdose), which steals a lot of punch (lows and highs which makes the contrast). Take a listen to the original 1991 album and you'll notice a bit punchier drums sound.
This is the main objective for this album, to change the drums sound. Listen to the drum samples they used in 'I Can't Live with You', they are like empty:[/QUOTE]
Yep, I did use the 2011 remaster. And you're right, drums sound crappy on it.
But hear this sound on Innuendo, (sorry I don't know how to call it (cymbal perhaps?), I'm noob at technical music stuff), it is buried somewhere deep low in the 2011 version. It would be nice if you managed to dig it out somehow to make it sound similar as the demo :)
[b]C_Matt wrote: [/b] Thank you very much GAP and Mouse! I wasn't here to read this at the time, I see, so thanks for uploading it again! Hope you both enjoy the album very much!
About 'Innuendo', it is the next album after 'Queen II'. I will have a really hard time with both of them lol!
I think I get your idea. The drums in the entire album are like artificial, even the acoustic ones. It sounds like plastic or carton to me (you can notice this really well at 'Lost Opportunitty', just listen to the kick and the snare, and the hi-hat is very panned to the right, like in 'Jazz'). I assume that in that comparison you used the 2011 remaster of the song, it has a glitch at 0:33, and I think I hear it. Specially with this song, the sound got really muddy in the 2011 remaster (mid frequencies overdose), which steals a lot of punch (lows and highs which makes the contrast). Take a listen to the original 1991 album and you'll notice a bit punchier drums sound.
This is the main objective for this album, to change the drums sound. Listen to the drum samples they used in 'I Can't Live with You', they are like empty:[/QUOTE]
Yep, I did use the 2011 remaster. And you're right, drums sound crappy on it.
But hear this sound on Innuendo, (sorry I don't know how to call it (cymbal perhaps?), I'm noob at technical music stuff), it is buried somewhere deep low in the 2011 version. It would be nice if you managed to dig it out somehow to make it sound similar as the demo :)
C_Matt
Totally get you! You have it right, those are the cymbals, more specifically, the hi-hat. The only song that has a clear drums sound in the album is 'I'm Going Sligthly Mad'. in the rest of the songs are sunken. It can be enhanced more, like with ADatR's GOFLB. 'Innuendo' drums can have a better sound, the information is actually in the songs, the hi-hat is there, but is very low, but can be enhanced a lot more. To me, the drums have a lot of punch and potential wasted by a bad equalization.
I'll have it in mind!
Thank you, Mouse!
I'll have it in mind!
Thank you, Mouse!
Chief Mouse
Brilliant :-) Very nice talking to you. Any chance you're on facebook?
brians wig
Innuendo is a dreadful album sound wise.
I thought the 2011 remaster was ain improvement for some of the songs but not all.
What it really needs is QPL to dig out the multitracks and do a complete new remix with them.
I thought the 2011 remaster was ain improvement for some of the songs but not all.
What it really needs is QPL to dig out the multitracks and do a complete new remix with them.
C_Matt
Sadly true, it sounds artificial plus the echo-reverb on Freddie's vocals in every single song, which (to my ear):
-Blurs the "F", "T" and "S" like if he's singing in an empty metal room.
-Makes a cricket bug sound in the higher frequencies (aprox 12 to 18KHz).
-Enhances the higher-mid frequencies in his voice (aprox. 1.5 to 2.5KHz), making him sound like an old man.
Now, I'm talking about the effect, despite how Freddie was singing and pronouncing at that time. In some songs like 'Innuendo' or DTsH, this effect is not so strong. But if you hear IGSM loud with good earphones, every time Freddie pronounces a "S" it drills your ear. But that's specially killing. You can hear this effect clearly in 'Headlong', TSMGO, RtWW, ICLwY... Check in ICLwY when Freddie says:
But I [b]tr[/b]avelled a long road [b]to[/b] get hold of my [b]so[/b]rrow, I [b]tr[/b]ied [b]t[/b]o ca[b]tch a dr[/b]eam
We're [b]stu[/b]ck in a bad pla[b]ce[/b], we're[b] tra[/b]pped in a rat ra[b]ce[/b]
I find that the 2011 remasters made a slightly improvement in the 70's albums. But for the 80's and 90's albums I preffer the original of them.
And responding to Mouse, I have Facebook! I'm not there very often, and the majority of the post are silly things lol! But if you want to add me, my user name is "/cmatt92".
Cheers!
-Blurs the "F", "T" and "S" like if he's singing in an empty metal room.
-Makes a cricket bug sound in the higher frequencies (aprox 12 to 18KHz).
-Enhances the higher-mid frequencies in his voice (aprox. 1.5 to 2.5KHz), making him sound like an old man.
Now, I'm talking about the effect, despite how Freddie was singing and pronouncing at that time. In some songs like 'Innuendo' or DTsH, this effect is not so strong. But if you hear IGSM loud with good earphones, every time Freddie pronounces a "S" it drills your ear. But that's specially killing. You can hear this effect clearly in 'Headlong', TSMGO, RtWW, ICLwY... Check in ICLwY when Freddie says:
But I [b]tr[/b]avelled a long road [b]to[/b] get hold of my [b]so[/b]rrow, I [b]tr[/b]ied [b]t[/b]o ca[b]tch a dr[/b]eam
We're [b]stu[/b]ck in a bad pla[b]ce[/b], we're[b] tra[/b]pped in a rat ra[b]ce[/b]
I find that the 2011 remasters made a slightly improvement in the 70's albums. But for the 80's and 90's albums I preffer the original of them.
And responding to Mouse, I have Facebook! I'm not there very often, and the majority of the post are silly things lol! But if you want to add me, my user name is "/cmatt92".
Cheers!
BETA215
Matt, cuando escuchás Mother Love, ¿no te molesta el llanto del bebé al final?
En ese caso, si alguna vez lo remasterizás, por favor, ¿podrías bajarle el volumen al llanto del bebé? ¿O hacer una versión alternativa con el llanto del bebé más bajo?
Y también, para el próximo álbum, Queen II, en los bonus tracks podrías incluir el concierto de Golders Green Hippodrome, o alguna/s canciones del concierto, y White Queen (en Hammersmith Odeon).
Saludos.
En ese caso, si alguna vez lo remasterizás, por favor, ¿podrías bajarle el volumen al llanto del bebé? ¿O hacer una versión alternativa con el llanto del bebé más bajo?
Y también, para el próximo álbum, Queen II, en los bonus tracks podrías incluir el concierto de Golders Green Hippodrome, o alguna/s canciones del concierto, y White Queen (en Hammersmith Odeon).
Saludos.
bootLuca
I would prefer a proper ending without all those songs... :-)
BETA215
WTF? That was one crazy idea I wrote in Notepad, but I don't paste it in the comment!
I'm sure that was my brother... He's going to win a prize...
I'm sure that was my brother... He's going to win a prize...
C_Matt
Hola, Beta y BootLuca! I don't know exactly when I'm going to work with MiH. Now I have QII, then 'Innuendo', then probably another 70's album to change a bit of sound, and might the next one could be it! Both of 'Mother Love' are great ideas, and I think I can do both of them too. About 'Queen II', I'm not used to include live versions of the songs to mantain the same quality sound trough the album, but I could see what can I do. Might some tracks can be reworked!
Leo eso y calculo que editaste el comentario, me pregunto qué habrá puesto tu hermano jajajaja.
'A Kind of Magic' is fully uploaded finally, with notes, cover and the two CD's pack. I hope you enjoy it very much!
Leo eso y calculo que editaste el comentario, me pregunto qué habrá puesto tu hermano jajajaja.
'A Kind of Magic' is fully uploaded finally, with notes, cover and the two CD's pack. I hope you enjoy it very much!
Vali
Oooooh !!!
"Queen II" ..... at last !!!!!! :-)
now that´s a "serious" job, Matt !!!
can´t wait !
"Queen II" ..... at last !!!!!! :-)
now that´s a "serious" job, Matt !!!
can´t wait !
GAP
[b]Chief pal![/b] Would you mind uploading the rest part of AKOM, please? Thanks in advace lol.
GAP
.......and I surely consider that everybody will be waiting for your new challenge, [b]Queen II[/b] Good luck my friend!!!!!