SSOR acetate on ebay.

Lmfao

if it has the different backing track, its not a fake item i think we can all agree with that. so 1/ the seller is a liar about the content 2/ or the seller is telling us the truth , in that case GT your and GBs logic fails. Unless you say the 'maker' of this acetate went as far as stealing a different backing track mix from the QPL archives, just to make one forged acetate and sell it on ebay. and additionally started the rumour 20+ years ago, so he could sell it in 2013 . yes.

[QUOTE] [b]inu-liger wrote:[/b] [QUOTE] [b]P-Tr extinction event wrote:[/b] you trying to buy this cheap or ... ? i am not mistaken , a withdrawn radio white label SSOR with a different version was reported 20 years ago, i think its even in the book 'as it began'. [/QUOTE] I think that was on a 7" pressing and a non-acetate pressing at that, if memory serves me correctly, and only a small handful of copies might be out there. This is the first I've heard of an acetate copy claiming to have a withdrawn mix. I'm with GT on this one, I find it suspicious that it's stamped "For Radio Only." Surely the DJ's would want to be able to play something like that more than just a few times?[/QUOTE] 'handful copies' = acetates, not proper 7" pressings. I dont think we can expect a book from 1992 to properly distuinguish between a white label radio copy and a very similar white label acetate.... the authors probably never seen the item. "Surely the DJ's would want to be able to play something like that more than just a few times?" how many radios were in Britain in 1974 that would play SSOR? probably 2-3, bbc radio 1 and the newly launched capital fm. Any similar item was intended for friendly DJs (remember the kenny everett story with bo rhap??) , to be played on a weekend show or simlar.. so to be played for a few times only yes. wikipedia "During this time, legislation had been passed allowing the licensing of commercial radio stations in the UK. One of the first, Capital Radio, began broadcasting to London and the Home Counties in 1973. Everett joined the station and was given his own show, where he further developed his distinctive ideas. From 1973 to 1974 he presented the station's breakfast show, initially alongside Dave Cash, a friend and colleague from Radio London days, and later as the sole presenter." i can very easily imagine Everett was given a copy at that time too, to play it a few times on his breakfast show..

[QUOTE] [b]ghostwithasmile wrote:[/b]

The auction is updated.

Acetates were moslty used , not for Airplay , but for the DJ to listnen to the "new"track and give a pre review when it was set to be released. [/QUOTE]

You are "shadysenator1979" on ebay, correct ? Why didnt you make a transfer? That would take away all doubt about the mix wich is supposed to be on the acetate you want to sell.

I am sure he made a transfer based on his latest auction update:
"After doing some research I can confirm this version has a playing time of 4.15 mins. The album version clocks at 2.48!!!!!!"

I do not understand why he does not want to provide a ie 10-15 sec sample of the disc to clear any potential issues. With all respect, this song could also be a fan-made mix of ie the 2011 instrumental take plus maybe the Queen I instrumental version to extend it to 4:15 min.

I have no idea if this disc is genuine or not. I used to have 12 Queen acetates myself and none of them ever had a cat.nbr or a reference to 'for radio only'. The title "Seven Seasons Of Rhye" appears to have been written over the "For Radio Only" stamp, implying that it was first stamped and at a later stage the title was written on the disc?
Does anyone know what the "REQ'D CMRF" refers to?

Strange that the instrumental version on the bonusdisc of the 2011 version features a real outro and still clocks in at only 3:10 minutes.

I assume REQ'D CMRF means 'required Combined Mode Resonant Filter'. Apparently that's an audio-related term, something to do with resonance/ringing/feedback.

Some other acetates have been put up for sale too:

http://www.ebay.ie/sch/shadysenator1979/m.html?hash=item5af06236ad&item=390580025005&pt=UK_Records&rt=nc&_trksid=p4340.l2562

Seven Seasons Of Rhye?
Lol what a coincidence.
Sounds like my "want to break free" tv soap show making of (retired section) within the movie biopic idea

Will Brian May remember this?
I am sure he can.
Speaking of that, it is time to seriously consider that uploading of his brain to a hard drive for prosperity.

[QUOTE] [b]RonB wrote:[/b]


I do not understand why he does not want to provide a ie 10-15 sec sample of the disc to clear any potential issues. [/QUOTE]

indeed

i can understand it a bit
firstly, doesn't playing acetates degrade them?
secondly, what are you going to hear? a vinyl recording of SSOR?

Yes, possibly a different version of SSOR. Hence the need for a sample to see if it'd be worth the money.

Winning bid: £1,020.00

http://www.queenzone.com/forums/1346295/demo-you-take-my-life.aspx

I find this very insulting.

The thing is real :

* Greg compared this one with Brian his own acetates, because this has a different label , is the claim this isn't real. So this means that the test versions handed out to the artists are excatly the same as the ones made for other pruposes?

* Some high class collectors including JSS asked me for the file and told me he was very interested in this ebay lot. And now he claims this one is a fake.

* this item features a unique version of the song, which cannot be made by amateurs , queen keeps on playing extra verses... This is without the "I like to be the seaside ending" which could be meant as a standalone track.And this appears on Reel to Reel as wel....

* I recieved emails that my Sheffiled acetate is a fake as well : this one I bought in person of Sheffield, there is no doubt.

* See the first topic in Greg his topic "sikke's acetates"

* Why in heaven sake would a evil man which is aiming to gain money out of pirates and bootlegs spent his time and effort in making a costy acetate with the risk to gain maybe 100 pounds knowing this will take a lot of time and effort. Knowing he can't be pooring out acetates : people will know and think it is suspicous when one person is flooding the market with rare acetates !

* See point above : why would use words like "rejected alternate version" , "take 5 rejected" etc.etc.

* Nobody told assumed it is a fake , while pictures of this one where on my facebook for 1 year or so... No people loved it.... People wanted to buy it.

* It has been in my collection since 1999 I bought it at a auction house. While unpakcing boxes with Queen I noticed I have 2 of these the one sold and the same on Trident label.

* Why is it a radio acetate : who knows why ? Why are the BBC sessions cut on Acetate they have the reels of the sessions.... ohhhh wait I just found out that the BBC aceates are all fakes !!

* It is a acetate all the point JSS mentioned in his topic count for this being genuine , he forgot 1 thing : the specifc smell of acetates.... The older they become the thinner it's sent will be. You have to be experienced for this.



Well I hope this makes sence.






The biggest fake acetate is Hangman :

* this one does NOT excist ! This has been confirmed by QPL employees.

* Why cut a acetate of a not going to be single release ? (curious point !)

* A picture showing a trident aceate with "angman" written on it can easily be made.



Further I have to react to the Reel tape point in JSS his topic.

The one I sold is the one shared here for free to celebrate Bob W. his birthday. I paid $ 800,- for it back then , knowing uploading it would make it only a piece of memorbilia and dlete it's value. And not a exciting piece of possible content. Btw this is the March show of Rainbow, not the November one of the VHS. As you know there are no VHS releases of the march show. And it is genuine.


Further one the reveresed /ufo story : this makes no sence at all. And sound like a explanation of my daughter after watching 2 hours the History Channel (ancinet aliens) this kind of engeneering was done way before 1947 : during the World Wars, and even in dark ages , finding out how to built trebuchets.

I wish I had a stash of acetates I'd forgotten about :(