...Or failing that; why not accept this simple challenge... upload a very poor and lossy version to the fan mix forums?
If it is [b]not[/b] genuine - it will be easily deconstructed and "reversed engineered" to match. If it is genuine the fan-mixers will [b]not[/b] be able to recreate it.
The Dea Lane Lea sessions cannot be reverse engineered. The Cool Cat demo cannot be reverse engineered.
When Bowie and Queen's "Under Pressure - Rah version" was re-released; it was reverse engineered using the additional "New York is Dangerous" ad-libs (which were not available elsewhere). Therefore; UP could not be reverse engineered by the fan-mixers because they did not have access...
As I said before; this is a thread about fakes - not accusations; just because I own a fake Rolex does not mean that I did not buy it in good faith or pay £5,000 for it, but at the end of the day, that does not in itself make it genuine.
I did not mean to stir a hornet's nest; but ebay has gone to town recently on fake autographs, fake pic discs, fake Picture sleeves etc, and is the scourge of all genuine collectors.
Am I the only one who gets fed up with all this crap?
Holly2003 · Member since
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[b]Negative Creep wrote: [/b] [QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]
If you want to prove that your acetate is genuine, post a wav file of the music contained therein. It wouldn't devalue the acetate itself.[/QUOTE]
LOL - Why would you need it in WAV/lossless quaity? You're not very subtle - you want to make out it's fake just to get the old owner to just hand you a lossless copy of something you don't have for free. An acetate featuring unreleased material is worth far more than an acetate with standard release material, so of course distributing the audio in any form would devalue it.[/QUOTE]
Indeed lol! And this from the same Real Wizard who's been arguing that traders can't possibly release stuff like that from their collections because it would devalue their collection! You couldn't make it up lol!
The Real Wizard · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Negative Creep wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]
If you want to prove that your acetate is genuine, post a wav file of the music contained therein. It wouldn't devalue the acetate itself.[/QUOTE]
LOL - Why would you need it in WAV/lossless quaity? You're not very subtle - you want to make out it's fake just to get the old owner to just hand you a lossless copy of something you don't have for free. An acetate featuring unreleased material is worth far more than an acetate with standard release material, so of course distributing the audio in any form would devalue it.[/QUOTE]
Mp3/wav, whichever.
The physical piece would be worth no less. The blue BoRhap is likely more than any acetate with an unreleased song.
The Real Wizard · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Holly2003 wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE]
[b]Negative Creep wrote: [/b] [QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]
If you want to prove that your acetate is genuine, post a wav file of the music contained therein. It wouldn't devalue the acetate itself.[/QUOTE]
LOL - Why would you need it in WAV/lossless quaity? You're not very subtle - you want to make out it's fake just to get the old owner to just hand you a lossless copy of something you don't have for free. An acetate featuring unreleased material is worth far more than an acetate with standard release material, so of course distributing the audio in any form would devalue it.[/QUOTE]
Indeed lol! And this from the same Real Wizard who's been arguing that traders can't possibly release stuff like that from their collections because it would devalue their collection! You couldn't make it up lol![/QUOTE]
If it's on ebay, the material will likely become public at some point. Selling on ebay relinquishes control and is the opposite of keeping something rare.
Nice try though, Mr Expert who has never even seen an acetate.
Holly2003 · Member since
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[b]The Real Wizard wrote: [/b] [QUOTE] [b]Holly2003 wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE]
[b]Negative Creep wrote: [/b] [QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]
If you want to prove that your acetate is genuine, post a wav file of the music contained therein. It wouldn't devalue the acetate itself.[/QUOTE]
LOL - Why would you need it in WAV/lossless quaity? You're not very subtle - you want to make out it's fake just to get the old owner to just hand you a lossless copy of something you don't have for free. An acetate featuring unreleased material is worth far more than an acetate with standard release material, so of course distributing the audio in any form would devalue it.[/QUOTE]
Indeed lol! And this from the same Real Wizard who's been arguing that traders can't possibly release stuff like that from their collections because it would devalue their collection! You couldn't make it up lol![/QUOTE]
If it's on ebay, the material will likely become public at some point. Selling on ebay relinquishes control and is the opposite of keeping something rare.
Nice try though, Mr Expert who has never even seen an acetate.[/QUOTE]
I don't claim to be an expert. However, I can see through your transparent arguments.
Negative Creep · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]
The physical piece would be worth no less. The blue BoRhap is likely more than any acetate with an unreleased song.[/QUOTE]
Yes it would - don't be stupid. An original acetate of an unreleased variant of Bohemian Rhapsody would be worth more than the blue vinyl BR - no question. It wouldn't be if that variant was freely available on the bootleg market.
"If it's on ebay, the material will likely become public at some point"
Really? You truly are having a laugh. So you think someone has paid over £1000 for it to freely distribute it for you to hear? If so, why badger the original owner to give you a copy? Rhetorical question.
