We need a youtube channel where we can find al this stuff centraly.
Every rarity should be available there. That makes it easier for everybody.
There was one on youtube.. Cant find it that fast now..
kosimodo
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Holly2003
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[b]inu-liger wrote: [/b] [QUOTE] [b]people on streets wrote:[/b]
I believe he shared/traded/donated them away to the group of 'queen experts' who call themselves fanthology :)
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You mean, away from the Fanthology group, which is what really happened :-)
[QUOTE] [b]GB: Queen Archivist wrote:[/b]
John
What's all this about David Fuller running off with your rarities?
How did that happen?
Hello btw.
GB
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Greg, remember that list of unreleased rarities I alerted you and the others to that DFR was offering for sale illegally?
Those tracks were the portion of the Fanthology tracks he had limited access to as a member of the group when he was still in the group, which has to be again noted which represents a portion of what the entire group's members had [i]collectively[/i].
These are the tracks that he willingly leaked a few against the group's agreement, and the remainder of which he attempted to sell through his Tumblr blog.[/QUOTE]
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[b]inu-liger wrote: [/b] [QUOTE] [b]people on streets wrote:[/b]
I believe he shared/traded/donated them away to the group of 'queen experts' who call themselves fanthology :)
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You mean, away from the Fanthology group, which is what really happened :-)
[QUOTE] [b]GB: Queen Archivist wrote:[/b]
John
What's all this about David Fuller running off with your rarities?
How did that happen?
Hello btw.
GB
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Greg, remember that list of unreleased rarities I alerted you and the others to that DFR was offering for sale illegally?
Those tracks were the portion of the Fanthology tracks he had limited access to as a member of the group when he was still in the group, which has to be again noted which represents a portion of what the entire group's members had [i]collectively[/i].
These are the tracks that he willingly leaked a few against the group's agreement, and the remainder of which he attempted to sell through his Tumblr blog.[/QUOTE]
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Lord Gaga
Inu's not a member of Fanthology.
inu-liger
[QUOTE] [b]Lord Gaga wrote:[/b]
Inu's not a member of Fanthology.[/QUOTE]
LG, it's just another one of Holly2003's vindictive attempts at (in his mind) preventing me from playing the future revisionist with my own posts, owing to a misguided belief that I regularly censor or erase my own posts everyday :-)
Inu's not a member of Fanthology.[/QUOTE]
LG, it's just another one of Holly2003's vindictive attempts at (in his mind) preventing me from playing the future revisionist with my own posts, owing to a misguided belief that I regularly censor or erase my own posts everyday :-)
john bodega
"David Fuller running off with my rarities"
Here I was thinking that it was Freddie, Brian, Roger and John performing on all of those things.
When I sink money into something that doesn't give me a satisfactory return (tangible or otherwise) I call it a bad investment and move on. At one time it was obviously worth it to you to pay money for Queen items; if that's changed, I'm pretty sure no one gives a fuck. Move on - it'll be good for your health.
PS. Please spend your money on something truly worthwhile, like having enormous pizzas delivered to Dave Fuller's house (preferably with obscene notes attached).
Here I was thinking that it was Freddie, Brian, Roger and John performing on all of those things.
When I sink money into something that doesn't give me a satisfactory return (tangible or otherwise) I call it a bad investment and move on. At one time it was obviously worth it to you to pay money for Queen items; if that's changed, I'm pretty sure no one gives a fuck. Move on - it'll be good for your health.
PS. Please spend your money on something truly worthwhile, like having enormous pizzas delivered to Dave Fuller's house (preferably with obscene notes attached).
cmsdrums
[QUOTE] [b]angermair73 wrote:[/b]
Where do people get them from anyway? [/QUOTE]
Therin lies the ultimate question. The ORIGINAL source HAS to be someone with direct access to the source material (either contemporaneous to the recordings, or now to the archives or personal tapes etc) and therefore IS someone at least with an indirect relation to the band;
Studio engineers and other staff
Producers
Chauffeurs
PAs
Archivists
Publicists
Manager
The Band
Family
etc...etc...
It will be easier for some of these than others: for example, would a cleaner in Mountain Studios back in the day know how to set up the reel to reel tape machine, make the appropriate settings on the mixing desk and then run a copy of something off? Probably not.
However would they be able to pick up a stray cassette copy already run off for genuine playback purposes that's been left on a sofa? Most probably.
Unfortunately GB, QPL, etc.. seem to want to blame those here that are several generations down the 'theft' chain rather than admit it was most likely their own organisation that led to the leaks to start with.
oh how I'd laugh if John has been sat in Deacon Towers slowly releasing his personal vault via backdoor means for hte last few years!
Where do people get them from anyway? [/QUOTE]
Therin lies the ultimate question. The ORIGINAL source HAS to be someone with direct access to the source material (either contemporaneous to the recordings, or now to the archives or personal tapes etc) and therefore IS someone at least with an indirect relation to the band;
Studio engineers and other staff
Producers
Chauffeurs
PAs
Archivists
Publicists
Manager
The Band
Family
etc...etc...
It will be easier for some of these than others: for example, would a cleaner in Mountain Studios back in the day know how to set up the reel to reel tape machine, make the appropriate settings on the mixing desk and then run a copy of something off? Probably not.
However would they be able to pick up a stray cassette copy already run off for genuine playback purposes that's been left on a sofa? Most probably.
Unfortunately GB, QPL, etc.. seem to want to blame those here that are several generations down the 'theft' chain rather than admit it was most likely their own organisation that led to the leaks to start with.
oh how I'd laugh if John has been sat in Deacon Towers slowly releasing his personal vault via backdoor means for hte last few years!
The Real Wizard
[QUOTE] [b]cmsdrums wrote:[/b]
The ORIGINAL source HAS to be someone with direct access to the source material (either contemporaneous to the recordings, or now to the archives or personal tapes etc) and therefore IS someone at least with an indirect relation to the band;
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Not necessarily. Don't forget auctions. Acetates were regularly turfed by the band, many of which were one of a kind pieces. Unless they took very extensive notes of every version of every song from start to finish, nobody can possibly know how many of these are out there. And anyone can buy them.
In 1974 they could never have foreseen people collecting these things four decades later, so it's nobody's fault, really.
The ORIGINAL source HAS to be someone with direct access to the source material (either contemporaneous to the recordings, or now to the archives or personal tapes etc) and therefore IS someone at least with an indirect relation to the band;
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Not necessarily. Don't forget auctions. Acetates were regularly turfed by the band, many of which were one of a kind pieces. Unless they took very extensive notes of every version of every song from start to finish, nobody can possibly know how many of these are out there. And anyone can buy them.
In 1974 they could never have foreseen people collecting these things four decades later, so it's nobody's fault, really.
cmsdrums
True - acetates sold genuinely of otherwise unreleased complete tracks will account for some, but a lot of the later stuff that is works in progress or snippets of ideas won't have got as far as that.