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Freddie's last recording - Mother Love or IGSM???

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I'm sorry if this is silly, but just looking for some clarification from those in the know....

I've always considered "Mother Love" to be the last recording by Freddie in the studio (roughly May 1991) - however, was filtering through some tracks on my HDD and had forgotten about the Fan Club Version of "I'm Going Slightly Mad" (The "Totally Bonkers" version) - it got me wondering which actually came first/last??

I can't find a date online for when the convention was in 1991. I think it's usually around April, which would obviously make Mother Love the actual final recording - BUT, if the convention was afterwards.......

Any help to clarify would be nice!!

Cheers :)

(also, apologies if this has been up before!)
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1991 fan club convetion was on 26/27/28 of April
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Ahhh, thank you pietrek, I don't know why I couldn't find this online :)

Very, very close to the recording of Mother Love, then.
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I allways thought that his last sessions were around August/September. Considering the state that Brian describes Freddie in the last "Mother Love" sessions, it´s hard to believe that he could have more six months to live.

Is there anything official about his last studio recordings?

Either way, Freddie was a warriour right until the end, and because of that he recorded some of the most beautifull music i´ve ever heard.
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a winters tale was two weeks before he died
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[QUOTE] [b]Mr.QueenFan wrote:[/b]

I allways thought that his last sessions were around August/September. Considering the state that Brian describes Freddie in the last "Mother Love" sessions, it´s hard to believe that he could have more six months to live.

Is there anything official about his last studio recordings?

Either way, Freddie was a warriour right until the end, and because of that he recorded some of the most beautifull music i´ve ever heard.

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I read somewhere that Brian had mentioned Mother Love as being recorded in the May of 1991. Unfortunately, I can't remember where that was :(
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[QUOTE] [b]Nick Browning wrote:[/b]

a winters tale was two weeks before he died[/QUOTE]

Really?

Where did you see/ hear this?

I've got to say I really doubt that one tbh, as A Winter's Tale is a complete recording, whilst Mother Love had to be finished by Brian. If what you say is correct, then Mother Love would have to have been recorded a week or so before Freddie passed away.
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[QUOTE] [b]Mr.QueenFan wrote:[/b]

Either way, Freddie was a warriour right until the end, and because of that he recorded some of the most beautifull music i´ve ever heard.

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Seconded!
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[QUOTE] [b]Thistleboy1980 wrote:[/b]

[QUOTE] [b]Nick Browning wrote:[/b]

a winters tale was two weeks before he died[/QUOTE]

Really?

Where did you see/ hear this?

I've got to say I really doubt that one tbh, as A Winter's Tale is a complete recording, whilst Mother Love had to be finished by Brian. If what you say is correct, then Mother Love would have to have been recorded a week or so before Freddie passed away.


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How do we know that Mother Love HAD to be finished by Brian? To me the final verse has always seemed like it was tacked on the end to fit the idea of regressing to childhood, and it doesn't even follow the structure of the earlier verses.


The album has only two complete songs which were recorded after the Innuendo sessions.

Lyrics on both of A Winter's Tale and Mother Love are finished (not rough ideas like You Don't Fool Me), and there's no reason to believe that Freddie wouldn't have been able to record both of them in their entirety.

It seems logical that the final verse of Mother Love was written and recorded much later than the rest of the song.
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Well i could be misremembering but in the documentary I believe Brian said that Freddie left the studio after his last take of mother love saying he was too tired to finish it off and that he'd come back in a few days to finish but of course he never did...

That would imply that there was a final verse in place. BUT Brian may have completely changed it during the four years. But that would also lead credo to Mother Love being the last vocal recorded.
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[QUOTE] [b]Nick Browning wrote:[/b]

a winters tale was two weeks before he died[/QUOTE]


don't get me wrong, pal...
...but that has been discussed here a thousand times...
no need to crap it up again.
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[QUOTE] [b]soxtalon wrote:[/b]

Well i could be misremembering but in the documentary I believe Brian said that Freddie left the studio after his last take of mother love saying he was too tired to finish it off and that he'd come back in a few days to finish but of course he never did...

That would imply that there was a final verse in place. BUT Brian may have completely changed it during the four years. But that would also lead credo to Mother Love being the last vocal recorded.

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Unfortunately Brian's memory isn't that reliable...
At best he's flourishing the details in this case because the released version of Mother Love happens to have the "appropriate" finish for a final song.

I'm inclined to believe that Freddie sang whatever there was ready (as has also been stated in interviews), and that was the entire song as it was on the day.
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[QUOTE] [b]princetom wrote:[/b]

[QUOTE] [b]Nick Browning wrote:[/b]

a winters tale was two weeks before he died[/QUOTE]


don't get me wrong, pal...
...but that has been discussed here a thousand times...
no need to crap it up again.


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So, any conclusion on that subject?
Freddie left Montreux 10.th november. Thats all the fact we know for sure (atleast according to Freestone).
David Richard mentioned that Freddie didnt behave very sick in the last session ( he did mention that the only "strange" behaviour was that he had to sit down instead of standing when singing). Didnt David also say that they did 2/6 weeks sessions ( 2 weeks in studio and 6 weeks off). Maybe my memory serve me wrong info here...
Anyway, back to topic.
Mother Love wasnt finished and the ending was made when Roger/Brian gathered to make an album of the material they had.
Which line to which song was the last.....i dont think we have any confirmed info on that one. Asking Brian doesnt seems to be quite reliable..
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[QUOTE] [b]TheGame wrote:[/b]

[QUOTE] [b]princetom wrote:[/b]

[QUOTE] [b]Nick Browning wrote:[/b]

a winters tale was two weeks before he died[/QUOTE]


don't get me wrong, pal...
...but that has been discussed here a thousand times...
no need to crap it up again.


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So, any conclusion on that subject?
Freddie left Montreux 10.th november. Thats all the fact we know for sure (atleast according to Freestone).
David Richard mentioned that Freddie didnt behave very sick in the last session ( he did mention that the only "strange" behaviour was that he had to sit down instead of standing when singing). Didnt David also say that they did 2/6 weeks sessions ( 2 weeks in studio and 6 weeks off). Maybe my memory serve me wrong info here...
Anyway, back to topic.
Mother Love wasnt finished and the ending was made when Roger/Brian gathered to make an album of the material they had.
Which line to which song was the last.....i dont think we have any confirmed info on that one. Asking Brian doesnt seems to be quite reliable..
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My impression from the David Richards interviews is that he is referring to Freddie's health generally across Innuendo and Made In Heaven sessions - not just specifically THE very last session he did. He means that even though he was ill, it wasn't initially apparent, and it only become clear something was wrong later on, towards the later sessions.
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A winter's tale was recorded in 1990 according to jim hutton book.
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