unseen 1979 footage

I think these clips are taken from the recent Great Pretender documentary .. ??

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4q99K6mQKQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AA6jmd3gtP4

Alexandra Palace 12-22-79 seems to be the right date (it matches the pictures), and the footage definitely looks like it's the same date. So who decided to come out with an unsubstantiated claim like Brighton?


(edit - I originally wrote 12-22-72, which is a Freudian slip from a Zeppelin fan as they played the venue the same day 7 years earlier!).

Wow, it's really cool stuff! I seem to remember seeing these clips before, so they must be from the GP documentary as you said above. The only thing that I don't understand is why I didn't attach importance to them... I recall thinking that the second clip was an audience video of the Hammersmith show from December 26, because it reminded me of Now I'm Here from said show for some reason. Still, not attaching importance to the first clip is something of a mystery to me, though I did know what show this video was from :-)

Weird thing is, I don't recall having seen these on the GP Blu-Ray release. Are they hidden on the disc or?

I know the person who posted those videos, so I'll try to talk to him on Skype about them (especially the Brighton one).

The video labeled Brighton 1979 looks like it has Sheer Heart Attack as the song being performed (I'm going off Freddie's stage act and the fact John Deacon has his tie off - on the Hammy 1979 footage he has his tie off during the encore songs).

What I'm also sure of is that the footage is not Hammy 1979 (that snippet doesn't match the stage moves from the Hammy 1979 video).

So looking through the pictures on Bob's site, I got these as possible dates:

11/26/1979 (Manchester)
11/30/1979 (Glasgow)
12/3/1979 (Newcastle)
12/11/1979 (Brighton)
12/14/1979 (Rainbow - the picture on Bob's site has John without a tie on).
12/17/1979 (London)

As far as I know, I have never heard of these dates with circulating 8mm video -- but the pictures may help us out!

maybe Jim Jenkins knows more about these videos....

[QUOTE] [b]people on streets wrote:[/b]

maybe Jim Jenkins knows more about these videos....[/QUOTE]

Yep :-)

I was at Ally Pally and I don't remember the glitter leotard.

I think I would have noticed it because FM wore it for the encore at Earl's Court 1st night, my first Queen gig.

It certainly doesn't feature in the pics I took that night.

May be wrong. It's a long time ago.

First of all I am quite surprised that you guys didn't watch the Great Pretender documentary, these 2 clips ARE there, in the opening part when they go quickly through Freddie's Queen years.

Both clips were definitely shot in December 1979 (or November - simply during the Crazy Tour), by the same person (you see the shaking hands), probably even with the same equipment and they seem to be filmed from the same location, so I would say that both clips come from the same 8mm master, probably from Jim Jenkins' private archive.
I really always thought that this is Alexandra Palace but splicksplack's comment made me less sure.

It's definitely not Newcastle (white tie), it's not Liverpool (Brian's outfit is different), but it could be Alexandra Palace.

Thinking again, I still think it's Ally Pally. We know JJ filmed it, and the photos match the footage. So either splicksplack's memory is wrong (it's nothing weird to NOT remember what Freddie wore one night 34 years ago), or the pictures on Bob's site are labelled incorrectly and don't come from Ally Pally.

[QUOTE] [b]splicksplack wrote:[/b] I was at Ally Pally and I don't remember the glitter leotard. I think I would have noticed it because FM wore it for the encore at Earl's Court 1st night, my first Queen gig. It certainly doesn't feature in the pics I took that night. May be wrong. It's a long time ago.[/QUOTE] Have you uploaded the pics anywhere? I would love to see them : ) I was there: This pic is meant to be from Ally Pally:

[QUOTE] [b]pittrek wrote:[/b]
First of all I am quite surprised that you guys didn't watch the Great Pretender documentary, these 2 clips ARE there, in the opening part when they go quickly through Freddie's Queen years.[/QUOTE]

I just watched the opening, and you're right, they are there.
I never noticed them before, probably because they're so short.

I could well be wrong. I only have 8 pics. I think the film ran out so they're all early on in the show.

I dio distinctly remember Fred on Superman's shoulders with a bunch of bananas on his head.

The sure-fire way of identifying an Ally Pally shot is by the pizza oven (if it's in the shot).

The part of Ally Pally used for Queen's stage had a very low ceiling. This was unlike the theatres where they would have "flys" - the space above the stage that accomodates back-cloths and lighting trusses etc.

As a result the pizza oven was flown a lot lower than at other venues on the Crazy Tour. It must have been even hotter than usual. We certainly felt it at the front.

It's very obvious in my pics.

[QUOTE] [b]splicksplack wrote:[/b]
It's very obvious in my pics.[/QUOTE]

What pics, where?

Yes please, if you could digitize them and share them that would be awesome