Zappa about Queen

Brian did some recording with either Frank or Dweezil I'm not sure which. I don't think it's ever been released. Their was an interview, in I think Guitarist magazine, in the late 80's in which BM said he'd spent a day trying to play a solo in the most complex bit of music he'd ever been faced with. He said the time signature was so obscure he had to wing it and hope he'd get away with it. I no longer have the mag so I can't check if it was father or son he recorded with.

He recorded with Dweezil Zappa on the song "Shampoo Horn" Nice tune :D

Thanks, I didn't realise he was on that song. I'll have to dig it out and listen.

Nobody defends poor ragged Jimi?

[QUOTE] [b]Apocalipsis_Darko wrote:[/b]

That's true about musicians respect. I talked with Rob Zombie, Lisa Gerrard (Dead Can Dance), Alice Cooper, Joe Perry, and the list goes on and on...and all known well Queen and respect them, except some cases like Paul Weller. In usa musicians, they love 70's queen records, knowing the songs, etc...not only for talk (like Kid Rock who told me he loves Queen and did'nt know to say the tittle of any Queen albums...). Even Sasha Grey or Alan Moore, outside from music, respect Queen. Sasha Grey is fan. Moore not fan, but respect them.[/QUOTE]

Sasha's is a manhole. ... 90 lbs laid flat on its back for all to drive and walk over. .. Why oh WHY do I repeatedly hear her being talked about as an artist?


Did she blow you TOO?


How do people come off calling a porn star who befriends musicians for recording perks an artist?


Paris Hilton did the same thing. ... IS SHE AN ARTIST? ????

Well, Sasha WAS a porn star.
Sasha has a music band, more near to Throbbing Gristle than the stupid music Paris Hilton published. If you know Throbbing Gristle, Coil and this kind of bands.
And she demonstrated she was a good actrees in The Girlfriend Experience.
If you are a sexist who can't believe an ex porn actress would be intelligent and did artistic things, is your fucking problem.
Is nothing comparable to Paris Hilton. I doubt Paris Hilton can talk to you about her favorite records of Bauhaus, or Scott Heron or Queen, and arguee about it. Sasha, yes. And...what is an artist? Is rock art or entertainment? There are a fine line between both concepts, so don't try to be so prejugder.

"Is rock art or entertainment? There are a fine line between both concepts, so don't try to be so prejugder."

That depends solely on the question of intent - is your primary intent to sell as many albums as possible? Then it's entertainment. Is your primary intent to create something that expresses what you feel you want to express? Then it's art. Many artists have worked on both sides of the line. Example: Lou Reed - Transformer: entertainment. Lou Reed - Metal Machine Music: (really bad) art.

Whether or not an album is art has nothing to do with the quality of the album, a really bad album like Metal Machine Music can be art, while really good ones like Hotel California or A Day At The Races are definitely entertainment.

Well, and even could be both. Bohemian Rhapsody is the perfect example. It was crazy in the 70's a single like that, with so much minutes for air play in the radios...but was THE HIT...the rest is history

[QUOTE] [b]Mr.QueenFan wrote:[/b]

Here´s a funny video of Frank Zappa´s son expalining his relation with Eddie Van Halen:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzWi3dKis2c

Brian May has told a story where Frank Zappa was on a Queen concert backstage and Brian wasn´t confortable with something. Frank Zappa asked him what was wrong and Brian told him that he had missed a note and made a mistake. Zappa told him that it wasn´t a mistake, because according to Zappa he wrote the song, it was his music, so he could play it has he wished.
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Two amazing stories. I love this stuff too.

Dweezil Zappa has the goods in his DNA.

[QUOTE] [b]thomasquinn 32989 wrote:[/b]

[QUOTE] [b]MERQRY wrote:[/b]

[QUOTE] [b]thomasquinn 32989 wrote:[/b]

[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]

That's actually quite a lot coming from Zappa. Very little modern music actually impressed him.[/QUOTE]

He did always respect innovative production techniques, which is also what he seemed to appreciate in Queen.

I'm curious - what interview is this from?[/QUOTE]

Sorry for the delay. i´m agree with both of you! I could add that apparently he (frank) had a kind of structuralist view of music wich isn´t too common in the general public.

The interview was made by "It Magazine", Circa 1977 (acording my source it was the number 7, mainly dedicated to zappa´s music).[/QUOTE]

Thanks, that's really interesting to hear! If it was roughly 1977, that puts it in the time Zappa made "Zoot Allures", a time when Zappa was more rock-oriented than usual, and moving away from his earlier work[/QUOTE]
Bingo, that'd make sense.

[QUOTE]it was the first album to drop the "& The Mothers of Invention" from the artist's name
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Wasn't Hot Rats the first?

[QUOTE] [b]Apocalipsis_Darko wrote:[/b]

Well, Sasha WAS a porn star.
Sasha has a music band, more near to Throbbing Gristle than the stupid music Paris Hilton published. If you know Throbbing Gristle, Coil and this kind of bands.
And she demonstrated she was a good actrees in The Girlfriend Experience.
If you are a sexist who can't believe an ex porn actress would be intelligent and did artistic things, is your fucking problem.
Is nothing comparable to Paris Hilton. I doubt Paris Hilton can talk to you about her favorite records of Bauhaus, or Scott Heron or Queen, and arguee about it. Sasha, yes. And...what is an artist? Is rock art or entertainment? There are a fine line between both concepts, so don't try to be so prejugder.

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Well said (except perhaps for your spelling of "prejugder" ;)

Sasha may have been a porn star, but she's no fool. Anyone with the "porn bimbo" stereotype might serve themselves well to read up on why she was different from most and why she ultimately quit. Hint: she quit because they wanted to mold her into something she wasn't.

hahaha, thanks for your spell chek ;) Never again!

[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]

[QUOTE] [b]thomasquinn 32989 wrote:[/b]

[QUOTE] [b]MERQRY wrote:[/b]

[QUOTE] [b]thomasquinn 32989 wrote:[/b]

[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]

That's actually quite a lot coming from Zappa. Very little modern music actually impressed him.[/QUOTE]

He did always respect innovative production techniques, which is also what he seemed to appreciate in Queen.

I'm curious - what interview is this from?[/QUOTE]

Sorry for the delay. i´m agree with both of you! I could add that apparently he (frank) had a kind of structuralist view of music wich isn´t too common in the general public.

The interview was made by "It Magazine", Circa 1977 (acording my source it was the number 7, mainly dedicated to zappa´s music).[/QUOTE]

Thanks, that's really interesting to hear! If it was roughly 1977, that puts it in the time Zappa made "Zoot Allures", a time when Zappa was more rock-oriented than usual, and moving away from his earlier work[/QUOTE]
Bingo, that'd make sense.

[QUOTE]it was the first album to drop the "& The Mothers of Invention" from the artist's name
[/QUOTE]
Wasn't Hot Rats the first?[/QUOTE]

I just checked, and it turns out we're both wrong (but I was a little more wrong than you)! Lumpy Gravy was the first release without the Mothers ('67), Hot Rats (how could I possibly have forgotten?!!! Peaches en Regalia AND Captain Beefheart on Willie The Pimp!) was second in '69, and, contrary to what I said earlier, Zoot Allures was the first album after the permanent dissolution of the Mothers of Invention.

My uncle had best not find out about me getting Zappa-details wrong, or I'll never get a birthday present again :P

I was looking for some advice on Gentle Giant discography, when I bumped into this Zappa's 1978 interview:
http://www.afka.net/articles/1978-01_Acid_Rock.htm


STREET: Are there any major rock n' roll bands aside from yourself that you do listen to?

ZAPPA: I like Queen. I like Gentle Giant.

Frank Zappa. .. vibrant player, unique songwriter by way of imitation and excessive trials (*original work) ... always looking for a technical way beyond his peers.


I don't think he succeeded as big as he wished but he was a Helluva man and consequently artist.

Mired in absurdity, he's got some real gems