‘I don’t think those guys want to’: Adam Lambert nixes idea of a world tour

[QUOTE] [b]gerry wrote:[/b] Freddie is not a machine but a human being so what ever folk say about him, not many can sing his songs, the freddie tribute concert proved that one! [/QUOTE] Indeed, and quite a few songs had to have their keys lowered to match the singers' average comfortable vocal range! There's no argument as far as that concert is concerned, but on the flipside of the coin, what a lot of people also fail to realize at the same time is that: a) The songs were not originally written for those singers in the first place, and... b) The artists were there to pay tribute to Freddie in their own style, not to replicate him detail for detail, and of course with that in mind of course the results were going to pan out very differently from singer to singer! I would daresay that Queen Extravaganza was far more designed, at least musically speaking, to seek someone who could replicate Freddie's vocal style and technique, than the Freddie Mercury Tribute Concert was. Marc Martel there pisses over at least half of the FM Tribute Concert's guest singers. But anyways, that's now potentially putting this topic at risk of veering off into tangent territory there, so I'm just gonna stop myself before I go any futher with that ;-)

[QUOTE] [b]gerry wrote:[/b]
I know freds voice got worse in the late 80s mainly because he was smoking like a chimney every 5 minutes
and by the time "The Miracle came out he had a raspy sort of voice and this is evident on "i want it all"
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That raspiness on I Want It All wasn't due to smoking but due to Freddie singing with a "distortion" technique. His voice got better technically from the Barcelona album-onwards (Montserrat Caballe taught him some techniques).

Unfortunately, we got his technical best singing at the end years of his life (imagine if he wasn't ill--he'd be singing better than ever as the 90s progressed).

I honestly dont think Freddies voice would have improved if he had been around, because he was beginning to become a heavy smoker and that would have meant he would not reach higher falsetto notes like he could on "soul brother"
it would have been a downward spiral for him unless he quit the ciggies.
Freddies last great vocals appeared on "The Works" album
after that things started to slowley go wrong, how he got through working with montey i do not know?

I don't know what everyone is getting so worked up about, its easy. The original and best Queen was with Freddie and John in the band. Everyone agrees that. They cant tour with that line up anymore, for obvious reasons lol.

So, if Brian and Roger want to go out and play the Queen songs live, they need a new singer. Paul Rogers is a great singer but my view was his voice didn't suit some of the songs. Adams voice seems more in line with Freddies.

But its personal choice, if you don't like Adam, don't listen to him.....go and play your CDs with Freddies voice on. But for anyone to say Brian and Roger are wrong for using Adam or disrespecting the Queen name is bullshit. They have no option BUT to use a new singer. And they have every right to go out and play these songs live and use whoever the fuck they want as lead singer. I personally think Freddie would have admired AL for stepping up and giving it a go.

Or maybe people think they should be personally asked to vet anyone that Brian and Roger think could sing with Queen? Its seems that some people think Adam is riding on Queens coat tails. Last time I looked, in the US, the worlds largest market, he'd had 2 top 5 albums in the last few years. When did Queen last manage that?

[QUOTE] [b]Mark_Glasgow wrote:[/b]

I don't know what everyone is getting so worked up about, its easy. The original and best Queen was with Freddie and John in the band. Everyone agrees that. They cant tour with that line up anymore, for obvious reasons lol.

So, if Brian and Roger want to go out and play the Queen songs live, they need a new singer. Paul Rogers is a great singer but my view was his voice didn't suit some of the songs. Adams voice seems more in line with Freddies.

But its personal choice, if you don't like Adam, don't listen to him.....go and play your CDs with Freddies voice on. But for anyone to say Brian and Roger are wrong for using Adam or disrespecting the Queen name is bullshit. They have no option BUT to use a new singer. And they have every right to go out and play these songs live and use whoever the fuck they want as lead singer. I personally think Freddie would have admired AL for stepping up and giving it a go.

Or maybe people think they should be personally asked to vet anyone that Brian and Roger think could sing with Queen? Its seems that some people think Adam is riding on Queens coat tails. Last time I looked, in the US, the worlds largest market, he'd had 2 top 5 albums in the last few years. When did Queen last manage that?

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I don't think you belong here, with your even handed, sensible, rational points!! :-)

Who in the fuck cares about the technical ability of AL or PR? Aside from being stylistic mismatches, they're both just bloody annoying. Paul Rodgers is like watching a sleaze at your local karaoke. Adam Lambert is a painful reminder of the reality crap I'm trying to avoid on the telly these days. Rodgers could stay in key but couldn't remember the fucking words. Adam Lambert likes to go off on these off-pitch tangents that don't relate to the music as a piece of art, and sure as fuck don't relate to me as a listener.

Fuck them both, I hope they choke, and Brian - fuck's sake, put out another solo album before it's too late.

You have to remember here that good music doesnt sell millions of records now,
female audiences make pretty boys rich like "one direction" and adam lambert is no different,
so just because lambert had 2 top 5 albums in america doesnt make him god,
he needs to crack the rest of the world before he can equal anything Queen did.
Personally Queen are not Queen anymore but for you guys who dont mind a new singer
fill your boots, but i dont wanna know.
Queen should have done what the Beatles done years ago and diss-banded
and save the embarrassmet.
Freddie must be looking down having a great laugh at Bri and Rog!

[QUOTE] [b]inu-liger wrote:[/b]

Hmm, I wonder...?[/QUOTE]

Did you just publish Gerry's picture?

ZEBONKA12 - Well said mate i admire your honesty.
now tell (inu-liger) and (Brenski) cos they seem to think they know it all.
Obviously most folk on here dont have any common sense regarding Queen
but you do m8 and i admire your way of thinking!
To hell with Rodgers and Lambo, Freddie is King!

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[b]gerry wrote: [/b] And by the way (inu-liger) i dont give a fuck what you think about me, im older and wiser than you
[b] and i have better musical tastes than you. [/b]
i surprised you dont worship justin bieber![/QUOTE]

[b]no YOU don't[/b]. for someone who claims to be older and wiser - i'd have thought you'd be mature enough to not get into a "pissing contest"....especially, when any fool knows that [b][i]taste[/i][/b] is subjective

"I like Jimmy Page more than Eric Clapton" is subjective. Lambert is the absence of taste. He's like a reverse black hole where real emotion, soulfulness, rock cred and instinct are forever hovering six inches from his ridiculous looking surface. F him and his screeching and warbling and lol codpiece collection.

Gerry. I didn't say Freddie wasn't a good singer. I said he lacked, for what ever reason, the ability to use that voice to it's full potential night after night. Both PR and AL seem more capable of using their full range.

Your comment that Queens heavy touring schedial and the length of their show was hard on Freddie. Yes it was because he didn't have the technical skill to use his voice in a way that didn't damage or tire his vocal chords. In fifteen years as a live act Queen only played 700 or so shows. Very view when compared to most other pro bands. On some tours they played less then two hours, Freddie also had a break during the show when Brian played his lengthy solo.

If you want to start looking at people who sang a near perfect show time after time Steve Perry during his time with Journey could easily out sing Freddie as could Ann Wilson from Heart, Rod Stewart in the 70's and Phil Collins.

It's very easy to look back and say I was at what ever show it was, but take away the excitement and atmosphere of a big live show and you'll be amazed at what you think you've heard compared to what things actually sounded like on the night in some cases.

No answer? I'll make an assumption then that you put his username and signature together and found that image on the web. If so, you do realize that publishing someone's identity on an internet forum is absolutely out of order don't you? It's the worst kind of stalking/trolling/bullying. And yet you have the gall to ask on the personal forum that Queenzone be moderated! If it were, you would be warned or banned. What's worse is that I'm the only one to mention it.


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[QUOTE] [b]inu-liger wrote:[/b]

Hmm, I wonder...? ">[/QUOTE]

Did you just publish Gerry's picture?
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[QUOTE] [b]Mark_Glasgow wrote:[/b]

I don't know what everyone is getting so worked up about, its easy. The original and best Queen was with Freddie and John in the band. Everyone agrees that. They cant tour with that line up anymore, for obvious reasons lol.

So, if Brian and Roger want to go out and play the Queen songs live, they need a new singer. Paul Rogers is a great singer but my view was his voice didn't suit some of the songs. Adams voice seems more in line with Freddies.

But its personal choice, if you don't like Adam, don't listen to him.....go and play your CDs with Freddies voice on. But for anyone to say Brian and Roger are wrong for using Adam or disrespecting the Queen name is bullshit. They have no option BUT to use a new singer. And they have every right to go out and play these songs live and use whoever the fuck they want as lead singer. I personally think Freddie would have admired AL for stepping up and giving it a go.

Or maybe people think they should be personally asked to vet anyone that Brian and Roger think could sing with Queen? Its seems that some people think Adam is riding on Queens coat tails. Last time I looked, in the US, the worlds largest market, he'd had 2 top 5 albums in the last few years. When did Queen last manage that?

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I don't think you belong here, with your even handed, sensible, rational points!! :-)[/QUOTE]

Hmmmm good point, I don't have a rational answer to that! lol