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AssDudeRule
wow.... nice work
Sebastian
Leroy Brown is still missing. First of all, it hasn't been confirmed that it's slowed down, and even if it were, it was most likely slowed down from a D or an Eb, which is still fairly low.
Gregsynth
[QUOTE] [b]Sebastian wrote:[/b]
Leroy Brown is still missing. First of all, it hasn't been confirmed that it's slowed down, and even if it were, it was most likely slowed down from a D or an Eb, which is still fairly low.[/QUOTE]
I didn't include that note because it was edited (slowed down from a higher note). I wish there was an unedited version of that phrase out there.
Leroy Brown is still missing. First of all, it hasn't been confirmed that it's slowed down, and even if it were, it was most likely slowed down from a D or an Eb, which is still fairly low.[/QUOTE]
I didn't include that note because it was edited (slowed down from a higher note). I wish there was an unedited version of that phrase out there.
Sebastian
But that's my point, as I wrote earlier:
1. There's no proof it's been varisped, just a comment from Roger saying that he 'THOUGHT' they 'MAY' have done that.
2. In the case they effectively slowed it down, then they probably slowed it down from either a D or an Eb, which is still fairly low.
1. There's no proof it's been varisped, just a comment from Roger saying that he 'THOUGHT' they 'MAY' have done that.
2. In the case they effectively slowed it down, then they probably slowed it down from either a D or an Eb, which is still fairly low.
Gregsynth
It's likely scenario 2.
What I can do is send that Leroy Brown note to someone who can reverse the varisped effect. Maybe we can figure out the "real" note.
BTW, how did you come up with D2/Eb2 as a guess?
What I can do is send that Leroy Brown note to someone who can reverse the varisped effect. Maybe we can figure out the "real" note.
BTW, how did you come up with D2/Eb2 as a guess?
Nitroboy
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[b]Gregsynth wrote: [/b] It's likely scenario 2.
What I can do is send that Leroy Brown note to someone who can reverse the varisped effect. Maybe we can figure out the "real" note.
BTW, how did you come up with D2/Eb2 as a guess?[/QUOTE]
My guess is it had to be a note very close to it, as for it not to sound odd, or be too hard to do (singing it sped-up in a normal tone for it to sound normal when slowed-down, would require it to be sung very fast)
Just my guess.
[b]Gregsynth wrote: [/b] It's likely scenario 2.
What I can do is send that Leroy Brown note to someone who can reverse the varisped effect. Maybe we can figure out the "real" note.
BTW, how did you come up with D2/Eb2 as a guess?[/QUOTE]
My guess is it had to be a note very close to it, as for it not to sound odd, or be too hard to do (singing it sped-up in a normal tone for it to sound normal when slowed-down, would require it to be sung very fast)
Just my guess.
Gregsynth
That's why I sent a sample of the Bring Back notes to someone. I told him to play around with that and change the pitch/speed so Freddie is hitting higher notes (D2-F2 instead of the C2). I'll then compare his timbre there to known notes he's sung.
madprofessorus
Nice work here,although I do believe that's not the real thing that made Freddie so unique, I can name a few singers who sing in high notes like Michael kiske, Steve Benito etc.Freddie had the ability to change his voice for the needs of every song, sometimes he did many changes in a single song,and that's something that I haven't heard in many great singers.
BradMay
I doubt that Freddie was a Low Tenor btw, i think he is a High Baritone.
His voice always becomes a bit more strainy around G4/A4 which is the common area of a High Baritone, His Low Notes are quite full/Deep, and not thin and whispery as the low notes of a Low Tenor.
His Speaking voice reminds me of a Tenor, but i doubt he was one.
His voice started to get higher in timbre around `88 why was that?
When i heard him sing on Innuendo for the first time it scared me... i always thought that it was because of the drastic weightloss, that would make his voice sound higher and "thinner" (Although he never sung/sounded better than in his HIV period)
His voice always becomes a bit more strainy around G4/A4 which is the common area of a High Baritone, His Low Notes are quite full/Deep, and not thin and whispery as the low notes of a Low Tenor.
His Speaking voice reminds me of a Tenor, but i doubt he was one.
His voice started to get higher in timbre around `88 why was that?
When i heard him sing on Innuendo for the first time it scared me... i always thought that it was because of the drastic weightloss, that would make his voice sound higher and "thinner" (Although he never sung/sounded better than in his HIV period)
Gregsynth
[QUOTE] [b]BradMay wrote:[/b]
I doubt that Freddie was a Low Tenor btw, i think he is a High Baritone.
His voice always becomes a bit more strainy around G4/A4 which is the common area of a High Baritone, His Low Notes are quite full/Deep, and not thin and whispery as the low notes of a Low Tenor.
His Speaking voice reminds me of a Tenor, but i doubt he was one.
His voice started to get higher in timbre around `88 why was that?
When i heard him sing on Innuendo for the first time it scared me... i always thought that it was because of the drastic weightloss, that would make his voice sound higher and "thinner" (Although he never sung/sounded better than in his HIV period)
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He's a lower tenor. He's got the brightness and tessitura of a tenor in the upper range and his low notes were forced (at least in the 70s) and don't have the "boom" that a baritone has. He also dodged a lot of lower notes live (and replaced them with higher harmonies). There are countless clips of squeaky clean upper fourth and 5th octave notes from studio and live clips
Montserrat Caballe helped fixed his technique and Freddie's mix voice technique improved. Unfortunately, soon after--the illness slowly started thinning out his voice (which was also causing a loss of chest power). So Freddie compensated by mixing more head voice into his upper range and didn't use too much vibrato in comparison to previous albums. That caused Freddie to sound "higher" and "thinner."
I doubt that Freddie was a Low Tenor btw, i think he is a High Baritone.
His voice always becomes a bit more strainy around G4/A4 which is the common area of a High Baritone, His Low Notes are quite full/Deep, and not thin and whispery as the low notes of a Low Tenor.
His Speaking voice reminds me of a Tenor, but i doubt he was one.
His voice started to get higher in timbre around `88 why was that?
When i heard him sing on Innuendo for the first time it scared me... i always thought that it was because of the drastic weightloss, that would make his voice sound higher and "thinner" (Although he never sung/sounded better than in his HIV period)
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He's a lower tenor. He's got the brightness and tessitura of a tenor in the upper range and his low notes were forced (at least in the 70s) and don't have the "boom" that a baritone has. He also dodged a lot of lower notes live (and replaced them with higher harmonies). There are countless clips of squeaky clean upper fourth and 5th octave notes from studio and live clips
Montserrat Caballe helped fixed his technique and Freddie's mix voice technique improved. Unfortunately, soon after--the illness slowly started thinning out his voice (which was also causing a loss of chest power). So Freddie compensated by mixing more head voice into his upper range and didn't use too much vibrato in comparison to previous albums. That caused Freddie to sound "higher" and "thinner."
Nitroboy
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[b]BradMay wrote: [/b] I doubt that Freddie was a Low Tenor btw, i think he is a High Baritone.
His voice always becomes a bit more strainy around G4/A4 which is the common area of a High Baritone, His Low Notes are quite full/Deep, and not thin and whispery as the low notes of a Low Tenor.
His Speaking voice reminds me of a Tenor, but i doubt he was one.
His voice started to get higher in timbre around `88 why was that?
When i heard him sing on Innuendo for the first time it scared me... i always thought that it was because of the drastic weightloss, that would make his voice sound higher and "thinner" (Although he never sung/sounded better than in his HIV period)
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I've only heard him strain around G4-A4 on bad shows. Freddie was not a baritone, let's compare him to Roger, Roger is a "standard" tenor, his low notes are not as powerful/deep as Freddie's.
His speaking voice reminds you of a tenor- because he was one. Listen to his singing/speaking voice in the 70's, it should be very obvious.
His timbre loosened up/got higher around '88 because he hadn't toured for a long time, so his voice was well rested.
You are also correct that his weight loss impacted his voice, while his voice was quite thin around '89-'91, I do believe he was at his peak vocally.
[b] madprofessorus wrote[/b]: Nice work here,although I do believe that's not the real thing that made Freddie so unique, I can name a few singers who sing in high notes like Michael kiske, Steve Benito etc.Freddie had the ability to change his voice for the needs of every song, sometimes he did many changes in a single song,and that's something that I haven't heard in many great singers.
I agree, it's not just about what notes you can hit, but also (more importantly if you ask me) how you sing and use your range. Freddie had a remarkable range, and he used it very well - both in the studio and live.
[b]BradMay wrote: [/b] I doubt that Freddie was a Low Tenor btw, i think he is a High Baritone.
His voice always becomes a bit more strainy around G4/A4 which is the common area of a High Baritone, His Low Notes are quite full/Deep, and not thin and whispery as the low notes of a Low Tenor.
His Speaking voice reminds me of a Tenor, but i doubt he was one.
His voice started to get higher in timbre around `88 why was that?
When i heard him sing on Innuendo for the first time it scared me... i always thought that it was because of the drastic weightloss, that would make his voice sound higher and "thinner" (Although he never sung/sounded better than in his HIV period)
[/QUOTE]
I've only heard him strain around G4-A4 on bad shows. Freddie was not a baritone, let's compare him to Roger, Roger is a "standard" tenor, his low notes are not as powerful/deep as Freddie's.
His speaking voice reminds you of a tenor- because he was one. Listen to his singing/speaking voice in the 70's, it should be very obvious.
His timbre loosened up/got higher around '88 because he hadn't toured for a long time, so his voice was well rested.
You are also correct that his weight loss impacted his voice, while his voice was quite thin around '89-'91, I do believe he was at his peak vocally.
[b] madprofessorus wrote[/b]: Nice work here,although I do believe that's not the real thing that made Freddie so unique, I can name a few singers who sing in high notes like Michael kiske, Steve Benito etc.Freddie had the ability to change his voice for the needs of every song, sometimes he did many changes in a single song,and that's something that I haven't heard in many great singers.
I agree, it's not just about what notes you can hit, but also (more importantly if you ask me) how you sing and use your range. Freddie had a remarkable range, and he used it very well - both in the studio and live.
Gregsynth
I say Freddie's best assets were his tone, phrasing, and use of his voice in general.
The range was just an added bonus!
The range was just an added bonus!
BradMay
Maybe i shouldn`t do this AT ALL, but..
Every Vocal Range of Freddie Mercury video has I`m Going Slightly Mad WRONG.
They say his lowest note is an A2.
That is indeed the lowest note in the VERSE.
On the CHORUS he goed lower.. He hits G#2s on the word "Going"
Every Vocal Range of Freddie Mercury video has I`m Going Slightly Mad WRONG.
They say his lowest note is an A2.
That is indeed the lowest note in the VERSE.
On the CHORUS he goed lower.. He hits G#2s on the word "Going"
Gregsynth
He hits A2s on "Going." A G#2 wouldn't even fit in the key!
There are lower notes on that song though. He bottoms out on a G2 on the first line "outside temperature RISES."
There are lower notes on that song though. He bottoms out on a G2 on the first line "outside temperature RISES."