Brian May mentions "Made in Heaven 2" being worked on
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pestgrid · Member since
So looking over the comments and everybody trying to guess when certain tracks were recorded in what sessions,in a bid to try and find out a tracklisting......why not everybody try to come up with an album title for the Made in Heaven 2 album and a possible tracklisting............
Titles of the album: 1.Duets 2. State of Shock 3.The B-sides 4.The Alternatives 5.The Other Side 6.Self Made Men 7.Feelings 8.
Tracklisting:
The tracks we know of are the three Michael Jackson songs...1.There Must Be More to Life Than This 2.State of Shock and 3.Victory.......
Also Brian has commented on him working on at least one other dusted off track from the past 4.Polar Bear ? My Boy? New York? Robbery? Self Made Man? You are the Only One? Heart Be Still? Feelings Feelings? My Secret Fantasy? Man Made Paradise? Affairs? Dog with a Bone?
Plus depending on what the album turns out to be the following are possibilities....1. Any Elaine Paige plus Queen track 2.The Rod Stewart duet that became Let Me Live 3.The Freddie and Cliff Richard Tracks performed on stage in 1988 4.Africa by Night with Monsterrat Caballe 5.Freddie singing the Andrew Lloyd Webber Tracks(Phantom of the Opera and Music of the Night) 6. A Queen plus Kerry Ellis track 7. Queen plus Adam Lambert
Most likely the album will have from nine to thirteen tracks as any past Queen album has had...............so for arguments sake lets say ten...Also it it would have to be released on vinyl,otherwise it would be the first Queen Album to have not been.....it wouldnt feel like a Queen Album then would it......
Possible Track Listing in no final album order.......
1. Victory
2. There Must be More to Life Than This
3. State of Shock
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.
Ill leave up to everyone else to fill in the tracklisting in no particular order..........
aion · Member since
I wish they would stop beating a dead horse.
It's kind of pathetic that decades after Freddie's death they are still scraping the barrels and searching the attics for bits and pieces of Freddie's voice so that they could glue together a new fake album. Made In Heaven was great as it included songs like A Winter's Tale, Mother Love and TMLWKY, but this is just desperate.
For years I have been embarrassed by Brian and Roger's attempts to keep the Queen name alive, these two 70-year-old guys touring with teen idols and trying to come up with any little things they could slap the Queen name onto. I have the most respect for John who decided to retire with dignity and has taken part in only the few worthwhile projects after Freddie's death.
If there is still creativity left in Brian and Roger, which I doubt since they haven't released an album since the 1990s, they should only record solo albums (or a duo album like Plant & Page did) anymore, perhaps putting a record out for fans for free on the internet if they can't get a record deal anymore. The band Queen has been over for a long time now and the name shouldn't be used with some collaboration with the next Big Brother winner as B & R do.
The only Queen-related release I would still buy is a high quality anthology of archive material, including all the old unreleased songs and demos they might have (excluding stupid remixes though). But if they take these demos and tamper with them, trying to build new songs out of them for "Made In Heaven Part 2", I'm not interested.
And as there is talk of the post-Innuendo sessions, I have always wondered how it is possible that they had only 3 songs to work with. As I understand Freddie asked the others to write songs - anything - for him in late 1990 or early 1991, the time when Innuendo was finished, and Freddie's last singing sessions were in May '91 or even later. So during a six months time Brian wrote one song, Roger wrote one song (partly - the scraps of You Don't Fool Me) and John didn't write anything. Freddie's dying wish was for them to write new things for him to sing and they achieved so ridiculously little in six months! (I don't expect that Freddie would have been able to sing for six months but they were still able to write songs for all that time and they simply didn't; if I had been in their place I'd have written 5 songs in one weekend.) I bet Brian and Roger now regret that they didn't write more then...
cmsdrums · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]pestgrid wrote:[/b]
...Also it it would have to be released on vinyl,otherwise it would be the first Queen Album to have not been.....it wouldnt feel like a Queen Album then would it......
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I'd say the fact that John will most likely barely feature except for any scraps of bass parts they want to recover will make it not feel like a Queen album far more than the media it is delivered on!!
I really sincerely hope that in John's absence they get a decent BASSIST in (not just Bri, Rog or someone playing the bass - there's a difference!)
Someone like Chris Childs would be fabulous and a great fit - he does a lot of work with Jamie Moses in a couple of bands, so lord knows why he hasn't been in the running before.
Chrisallstar · Member since
I think this is an interesting concept, it does make me wonder why they didn't do a more comprehensive trawl through the archives when compiling "Made In Heaven"?
In any event I think this sounds promising and better than yet another compilation. I think if they could work on maybe five demos, remix a Queen track, 'Queen-ify' a Freddie solo song, and compose 3 new songs and sing lead vocals themselves like Brian and Roger used to do on the 70's albums.
1) I Go Crazy (with David Bowie)
2) Love Kills (Queen version)
3) Newly composed song (Roger on vocals)
4) Let Me In Your Heart Again
5) Freedom Train (Queen version)
6) Newly composed song (Brian on vocals)
7) I Guess We're Falling Out
8) Dog With A Bone
9) Newly composed song (Roger/Brian on vocals)
10) There Must Be More To Life Than This (+ Jacko)
11) Love Me Like There's No Tomorrow (remix of FM track)
12) No-One But You
13) Was It All Worth It (2014 Remix)
Chrisallstar · Member since
QueenFan76 · Member since
Personally, I'd love to hear Roger tracks like New Dark Ages and Freedom Train which were allegedly worked on in 90/91. The 3 tracks with MJ, Dog With A Bone is a decent enough song, I'd love I Dream Of Christmas.... FINALLY!
I just want a nice 12-16 track album... A full 80 minutes is fine, and without a boring as hell 22 minute ambient piece.
I'd like the album to be at least 2/3 rockers. Made In Heaven 1 was good, but damn slow and depressing at times.
I'd say go for Made In Heaven 2 or maybe Back to Basics?
If its mostly BS, call it Made In Hell.
As for John, leave him be unless he's actually willing to do this.
AlexRocks · Member since
I think before a new l.p. is done using past member recordings that a new studio l.p. should be done with new Queen members and THEN a box set compilation of demos, outtakes, instrumentals, remixes, alternative versions of tracks that is five discs long. Before all of that I think that there should be a couple of live releases. A single disc and at some point afterwards a two disc set. And that they those should be audio only. Nothing that they have film to. What's up with things like that not happening more often? Queen did tons of tours. There should be more live stuff out officially.
andyb1968 · Member since
What about new York at last, the fan mix from a few years ago, also the Freddie demos from his box set were very useable, at least 5 really decent tracks there. But like I said earlier it won't happen !
Vali · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]andyb1968 wrote:[/b]
What about new York at last, the fan mix from a few years ago, also the Freddie demos from his box set were very useable, at least 5 really decent tracks there. But like I said earlier it won't happen ![/QUOTE]
I guess you got it !
if 5 decent tracks can be found in the FM Solo boxset and something as nice as the "New Yor at last" fan mix could be produced, can you imagine how many takes like those that we´ve never heard of could be in the Queen vaults?
I´m sure a lot of good material to work on was found in the archives after the MIH project and I wouldn´t dismiss the possibility of having something really "new", in the "You Don´t Fool Me" style
Queen1973 · Member since
My track list.
I guess were fallin out
There must be more to life than this
State of shock
You are the only one
Dog with a bone
Self made man
Victory
Take another Piece of my heart
Let me in your heart again
robbery
my secret fantasy
affairs
Blaise Pascal · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Vali wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]andyb1968 wrote:[/b]
What about new York at last, the fan mix from a few years ago, also the Freddie demos from his box set were very useable, at least 5 really decent tracks there. But like I said earlier it won't happen ![/QUOTE]
I guess you got it !
if 5 decent tracks can be found in the FM Solo boxset and something as nice as the "New Yor at last" fan mix could be produced, can you imagine how many takes like those that we´ve never heard of could be in the Queen vaults?
I´m sure a lot of good material to work on was found in the archives after the MIH project and I wouldn´t dismiss the possibility of having something really "new", in the "You Don´t Fool Me" style [/QUOTE]
But we must see if they really want to do something serious and challenging as this
Arnaldo "Ogre-" Silveira · Member since
First of all, wonderful, heavenly news. As for the tracklist... whatever, it will be wonderful anyway! But please keep guessing, it sure is a good read.
Cheers,
Ogre-
Vali · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Blaise Pascal wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]Vali wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]andyb1968 wrote:[/b]
What about new York at last, the fan mix from a few years ago, also the Freddie demos from his box set were very useable, at least 5 really decent tracks there. But like I said earlier it won't happen ![/QUOTE]
I guess you got it !
if 5 decent tracks can be found in the FM Solo boxset and something as nice as the "New Yor at last" fan mix could be produced, can you imagine how many takes like those that we´ve never heard of could be in the Queen vaults?
I´m sure a lot of good material to work on was found in the archives after the MIH project and I wouldn´t dismiss the possibility of having something really "new", in the "You Don´t Fool Me" style [/QUOTE]
But we must see if they really want to do something serious and challenging as this[/QUOTE]
at least for me that would be the only correct way to aproach this project. I mean, "creating" from scratch, from bits and pieces.... and from unreleased / unheard more or less complete stuff (Let Me In...)
If they take the easy way of giving a Queen treatment to, let´say, Love Kills.... well, that would make it very much less apealing to me
jondickens1 · Member since
I'm hoping Face it alone gets completed for this album. It's the most atmospheric haunting tracks I've heard from there demos. Let me in is also a great track that we know exists. And New York New York could be reworked quite beautifully.
rhyeking · Member since
There are solo tracks that were worked on by the band at different points.
Love Kills - The released version has Brian's guitar and Roger's drum programming still on it and Brian has said Queen did work on it, which would have been near the end of The Works sessions, in January 1984. This would be less about giving it "the Queen treatment" as completing one of the original intentions of the song.
Man-Made Paradise - There is a Queen version known to exist, played at the 16th International Fan Club Convention in Prestatyn.
There Must Be More To Life Than This - Setting the FM+MJ version aside for a moment, there is the Queen version that was scheduled for release on The Works before it was replaced at the last minute with "Is This The World We Created...?" In 1996, John Deacon said he was working on a remix of the track (he didn't say if it was the FM solo version, the FM+MJ version or the Queen version).
Man On Fire - Not much is known, but it was listed on that Works cassette seen at the Stormtroopers In Stilettos exhibits. If it's a Queen version, by all means, release it.
Let Me In (You Heart Again) - This Queen version has been confirmed.
Brian's recent statement that they were revisiting a track not many fans would remember, but that the current work on it would be different from its earlier incarnation, could be referring to anything, really. He was deliberately being vague, so we're left to wonder which track he was referring to. It could a non-album B-side, an alternate take or re-record of an album track, a solo track they all previously worked on that was shelved. The possibilities are many and he didn't give us much to go on.
My own opinion is that we aren't going to see things like "Robbery," "Self-Made Man" or "Face It Alone" getting finished (or any of the widely-speculated known '80s demos). Maybe I'm wrong, but that's my hunch. The more complete tracks noted above are certainly contenders, though. The difference being, there isn't a lot to work with vocally from Freddie on a lot of the very incomplete demos we've heard, where as the 5 tracks noted about are done. Yes, you can argue that "You Don't Fool Me" was built from very little, but I think that's the exception and was completed because it WAS one of Freddie's last recordings after Innuendo. I'm not expecting them to try that again. But hey, like I said I'm wrong.