Unknown venue/ Germany 1974

Hi, I was doing some detective work for  another thread. And I found out that there was a Queen show at the 7th of December in 1974 In the german small town  "SINGEN"( Lake Constance / Bodensee) at an unknown venue.
Now the first thing that makes me wonder, SINGEN is a small town with only 45 000 citizens. After they played in Munich,Frankfurt,Hamburg and Cologne they played in SINGEN ???
Well that isn`t impossible but...

In Germany there is a another town with a very similar name called "SIEGEN" with 100 000 citizens(central Germany) and a bit of media history( Radio station/ local TV Studio WDR, TV shows from the "Siegerlandhalle" etc.) ...sounds like a better/more logic option to me.

An Open Air festival can be ruled out because of the date 7 December...:)

The fact that they played in DenHaag/The Hague Netherlands the other day(8thDec) makes more sense to the logistic aspects of touring( Sheer heart attack Tour).

Can someone confirm that the show has taken place in SINGEN/Germany (Lake Constance) ???

I once heard a rumour that the 12-6-74 show was actually in Singen, but it turns out it was indeed Cologne.

What's your source for the next night being in Singen/Siegen?

This clearly isn't going away, so it's worth investigating.

There was a discussion at the german fan site around 2006 but it doesn`t lead to an proper end.

other source www.ultimatequeen.co.uk concertgraphy 1970 - 76

SINGEN or SIEGEN in both cases there is no venue( City hall- just  for example) mentioned.

Maybe a ghost show ?

a further mention of the possible venue in Singen here: http://qliverecordings.tripod.com/concertography.html#4

(found with my friend Dario DN)

Here's another site:

http://www.queenpedia.com/index.php?title=Template:Gigography_1974

The gig could've been at the venue called "Scheffelhalle." It's a really small venue (holds around 400).

http://www.eventlokale.com/en/localityCapacity-6195.html

Here's another venue in Singen called the "Stadthalle."

http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/europe/germany/frankfurt/u-bahn-kontroll-re-wir-lassen-uns-das-singen-nicht-verbieten-thingstodo-detail-54838007-120914/

It's unlikely Queen played there in 1974 since it looks like a bigger concert hall (with 3,000 capacity) and they weren't popular enough to fill bigger venues yet (at least by themselves).

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"Scheffelhalle" could be a "BINGO"... The history of the venue fits build in 1925, and AC/DC played there 36 years ago.
I will make contact with the blogger if that Queen 74 gig can be seen as "confirmed"

Here's a wee idea: perhaps the venue will have records of Queen playing there (Scheffelhalle). Would it be possible for you to contact them? (If it still exists, that is....)

^^^
I will ask for any kinds of evidence pictures, Tapes...hope he check his inbox. And of course I will share for free :)

Surely there's a reference library in Germany that stores older newspaper reports. Here in Glasgow, we have the Mitchell Library that keeps copies of old papers on film (so if you know the dates you're after, data is easy to find). In this case, we have the date of Dec 7th '74. Surely it can't be that hard? (and before anyone gets there first, I'll say it....."THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID" lol).

ha ! Even a sick fuck like me didn't think of that.

This is getting interesting. Good luck with the research, guys !

^^^ seems like Scheffelhalle / SINGEN will be the place. Gigs from UFO,Scorpions, Canned Heat and Status Quo are confirmed by a witness. ( postet on a german Status Quo forum)

Capacity maybe varies up to 900.

And it´s logic:) The Sheer heart attack Tour was about to end - so their pockets were full with greens - and the swiss border is just a couple of miles away :)

Awesome!

great thread. I can't wait to add this new venue to my gig list. thank you.