would john be happy if roger and brian called it a day?

[QUOTE] [b]Negative Creep wrote:[/b]

The fact that nothing worthwhile or decent has happened with the Queen brand since John jumped ship speaks volumes.[/QUOTE]

Successful tours with Paul Rodgers weren't worthwhile? That may be the best thing they've done in the last 15 years.

Check out that Super Live In Japan DVD. Killer track listing, and definitely the QPR collaboration at its peak.

[QUOTE] [b]Jimmy Dean wrote:[/b]

I think John doesn't actually care what Brian and Roger do. He probably weighs the good and the bad evenly. In his point of view, he probably feels Brian and Roger have tarnished the Queen legacy by teaming up with other singers & setting up a musical. On the other hand, he continues to profit every time they do, in some way or the other.
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Exactly.

Some people hold him as a saintly figure for leaving the band, but the bottom line is - he still accepts the cheques. If he didn't agree with what Brian and Roger were doing and refused to cash in on it, then one might refer to him as having some sort of "integrity."

... and also possibly stupidity, for refusing free money for great work he did 30 years ago. ;-)

Big bands become brands. They're a business like any other, and Brian and Roger are very smart with theirs. Their lead singer died and they can't replace him, so they try out alternate avenues with their back catalogue. Had they sat on their arses for the past 15 years, Queen wouldn't be nearly as big as they are now.

It may rustle a few feathers. Very few, in the grand scheme of things. Brian and Roger have worked their balls off to keep Queen's music in public consciousness. For every person who thinks they're "tarnishing the legacy" or whatever, there are a hundred who bought a Queen CD because the songs are great.

Brian threatened to put a bomb in John's undies if he showed up for the RRHOF induction.

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Some people hold him as a saintly figure for leaving the band, but the bottom line is - he still accepts the cheques. If he didn't agree with what Brian and Roger were doing and refused to cash in on it, then one might refer to him as having some sort of "integrity."

It may rustle a few feathers. Very few, in the grand scheme of things. Brian and Roger have worked their balls off to keep Queen's music in public consciousness. For every person who thinks they're "tarnishing the legacy" or whatever, there are a hundred who bought a Queen CD because the songs are great.[/QUOTE]

I don't reckon anyone thinks John Deacon is saintly, more pointing out that he opted out, inadvertently or not, from all the crap that was to come. To suggest for him to have any integrity he would have to refuse payments for his work is hilarious, sorry. By accepting payment for his work, he isn't cashing in on fuck all.

I 'm pretty certain you'd struggle to find anyone other than obsessives with anything positive to say about any of Brian and Roger's Queen+ activity. The Beatles and Stones brands are way bigger globally than Queen, neither have the drummer and guitarist dragging the brands into utter rubbish. Neither do Zeppelin, Hendrix or Pink Floyd.
And no, I don't think the Rodgers collaboration was worthwhile - as a vocalist he is an acquired taste (mostly for the 60+) and the antithesis of Queen. Nothing stopping the pair from touring by themselves or together as something else, apart from ego. Their reluctance to do anything outside of the Queen brand by themselves just confirms that any creativity the pair had, died a long long time ago. Just look at Roger's solo album, took him years to put together but it's poor and fans were more interested in the boxset of music they already had.

John Deacon don't owe nothing to the fans, if he wants to live out of the showbiz we can't argue with that.

Neither Brian or Roger owe us nothing, after 25 years with Queen. Easily they could have retired to live the life. But they wanted to keep playing and i enjoyed the PR tours and the live releases of MK, Montreal and Budapest.

Of course i will like if they stayed togheter making new music, instrumental albums a la Russian Circles. But they are not here to fullfill selfish wishes.

[QUOTE] [b]Doga wrote:[/b]


Neither Brian or Roger owe us nothing, after 25 years with Queen. Easily they could have retired to live the life. But they wanted to keep playing and i enjoyed the PR tours and the live releases of MK, Montreal and Budapest.[/QUOTE]

They don't have to fuck with the Queen brand for their own selfish ends (be it money or ego) to carry on playing. There's nothing stopping them from continuing with their solo careers or just working on archive releases to help preserve the legacy. That Brian and Roger refuse to accept that Queen don't exist any more is pretty tragic, and you have to question the motives of that.

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[b]Negative Creep wrote: [/b] [QUOTE] [b]Doga wrote:[/b]

Neither Brian or Roger owe us nothing, after 25 years with Queen. Easily they could have retired to live the life. But they wanted to keep playing and i enjoyed the PR tours and the live releases of MK, Montreal and Budapest.[/QUOTE]

They don't have to fuck with the Queen brand for their own selfish ends (be it money or ego) to carry on playing. There's nothing stopping them from continuing with their solo careers or just working on archive releases to help preserve the legacy. That Brian and Roger refuse to accept that Queen don't exist any more is pretty tragic, and you have to question the motives of that.

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Don't think they can't accept it. Queen is a brand name that people know if they called themselves somthing else people just think who the hell is that and therefore will not attract as much attention. They worked bloody hard to make queen a household name that we all know. 
Think about acdc when bon scott died they didn't stop using acdc as a name. Did it do them any harm?

I ´ll probably never understand why people think if John was still around everthing would be different. He was never a dominat force. And that´s a good thing, because Queen would became somekind of funk/soul band, releasing lots of Hot Space kind albuns. John was the guy who didn´t want a guitar solo on back chat! He was a important member of the group and he is/was a great musician, but he was never responsible for the amazing quality Queen used to achieve. He was part of it, not the key element.

[QUOTE] [b]rubens wrote:[/b]

I ´ll probably never understand why people think if John was still around everthing would be different. He was never a dominat force. And that´s a good thing, because Queen would became somekind of funk/soul band, releasing lots of Hot Space kind albuns. John was the guy who didn´t want a guitar solo on back chat! He was a important member of the group and he is/was a great musician, but he was never responsible for the amazing quality Queen used to achieve. He was part of it, not the key element.[/QUOTE]

There was no single "key element" in Queen. Check Mr. Bad Guy if in doubt.

^ stop being so accurate ;-)

I think any sane person can agree that Queen were greater than the sum of its parts.

[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]

^ stop being so accurate ;-)

I think any sane person can agree that Queen were greater than the sum of its parts.[/QUOTE]

Agreed. The combination of those four musicians produced something very special, and the band knew that. That's why they stayed together even through some tough times.

I think Freddie once said that he couldn't spend more than an hour with Brian without wanting to hit him (or words to that effect). But he knew with Brian (and RT/JD) he could produce better music than on his own.

[QUOTE] [b]Jam Monkey wrote:[/b]

I think Freddie once said that he couldn't spend more than an hour with Brian without wanting to hit him (or words to that effect). .[/QUOTE]

LOL