[QUOTE] [b]marc.s wrote:[/b]
Songs like Death On Two Legs, Sweet Lady, IILWMC, YMBF, LOML have more the vibe of reality for me, whilst SR and LOASA have that sense of the fun but still real life fun not the fantasy feel i personally get from Nevermore , FFMS, and FHLI. And of course SSOR and OB err more on the fantastical side too. Having said that there are exceptions as LITE is more realty based.
Actually I love Queen 2 but I do feel they had gone as far as they could in that direction. They must have felt the same because they came up with SHA in the same year.
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you need to be careful of stating something as fact when, it's only an opinion...that last sentence is a case to point - see note 3 below.
1. Nevermore,is not fantasy - it's a straight out love ballad
FHLI - again has no fantasy feel - it's a beach boys/phil spector tribute/pastiche.
Loser In the End/Some Day One day - have no fantasy feel
MOTBQ - has been attributed as the embryo of Bo Rhap elsewhere.
2. some SHA tracks were natural progressions from QII and QI...
Lily = Nevermore
ITLOTG & ITLOTG(rev) deffo fit on QII
Tenement = any Roger song previous to this
Flick of the Wrist = very Liar
Brighton Rock = Son & daughter/Blag
3. wasn't SHA recorded sooner than planned because Brian got ill and they cancelled a tour - so they needed to maintain their presence while they were off the road?
also worth noting is that both albums have the same sales certification - which debunks the suggestion that there was any ulterior reason for rushing out another reason
United States Gold 500,000
United Kingdom Platinum 300,000
marc.s · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]brENsKi wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]marc.s wrote:[/b]
Songs like Death On Two Legs, Sweet Lady, IILWMC, YMBF, LOML have more the vibe of reality for me, whilst SR and LOASA have that sense of the fun but still real life fun not the fantasy feel i personally get from Nevermore , FFMS, and FHLI. And of course SSOR and OB err more on the fantastical side too. Having said that there are exceptions as LITE is more realty based.
Actually I love Queen 2 but I do feel they had gone as far as they could in that direction. They must have felt the same because they came up with SHA in the same year.
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you need to be careful of stating something as fact when, it's only an opinion...that last sentence is a case to point - see note 3 below.
1. Nevermore,is not fantasy - it's a straight out love ballad
FHLI - again has no fantasy feel - it's a beach boys/phil spector tribute/pastiche.
Loser In the End/Some Day One day - have no fantasy feel
MOTBQ - has been attributed as the embryo of Bo Rhap elsewhere.
2. some SHA tracks were natural progressions from QII and QI...
Lily = Nevermore
ITLOTG & ITLOTG(rev) deffo fit on QII
Tenement = any Roger song previous to this
Flick of the Wrist = very Liar
Brighton Rock = Son & daughter/Blag
3. wasn't SHA recorded sooner than planned because Brian got ill and they cancelled a tour - so they needed to maintain their presence while they were off the road?
also worth noting is that both albums have the same sales certification - which debunks the suggestion that there was any ulterior reason for rushing out another reason
United States Gold 500,000
United Kingdom Platinum 300,000
[/QUOTE] hi brENsKi I did state it was my opinion quote "not the fantasy feel i personally get from Nevermore , FFMS, and FHLI" but I'll forgive ya for missing it.
Subjectivity is what makes forums like this great.
brENsKi · Member since
[QUOTE][b]marc.s wrote:[/b] hi brENsKi I did state it was my opinion quote "not the fantasy feel i personally get from Nevermore , FFMS, and FHLI" but I'll forgive ya for missing it. Subjectivity is what makes forums like this great.
[b]when i said this:[/b] [QUOTE] [b]brENsKi wrote:[/b]you need to be careful of stating something as fact when, it's only an opinion...[b][i]that last sentence***[/i][/b] is a case to point - see note 3 below [i]3. wasn't SHA recorded sooner than planned because Brian got ill and they cancelled a tour - so they needed to maintain their presence while they were off the road?[/i][/QUOTE]
[b]it was purely in reply to this quote of yours:[/b] [QUOTE] [b]marc.s wrote:[/b][i] I do feel they had gone as far as they could in that direction. [b]They must have felt the same because they came up with SHA in the same year[/b][/i][b].[i]***[/i][/b][/QUOTE]
hope that clears up [i][b]your missing it[/b][/i]....i didn't miss anything :-)
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Sebastian · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]marc.s wrote:[/b]
Subjectivity is what makes forums like this great.
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Certain things are subjective, others aren't. Is Bo Rhap better than STL? Is STL better than Bo Rhap? Are they equally good? Is the guitar solo better on Bo Rhap than on STL? Vice-versa? What about the drums? Piano? Lead vocals? Backing vocals? Bass? Rhythm guitar? Additional percussion? Production? Mixing? Mastering? Re-mastered versions? All of those are subjective.
Now: which song amongst Bo Rhap and STL was released first? Which song's album version is longer? Which single sold more copies in America? Britain? West Germany? East Germany? Laos? Which lead vocal covers a larger range? Which backing vocal covers a larger range? Which required more bouncing on the multi-tracks? Which has more chords? More simultaneous superimpositions? All of those have a clear definite answer (which we may or may not know), not open to debate.
Mike G · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Sebastian wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]marc.s wrote:[/b]
Subjectivity is what makes forums like this great.
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Certain things are subjective, others aren't. Is Bo Rhap better than STL? Is STL better than Bo Rhap? Are they equally good? Is the guitar solo better on Bo Rhap than on STL? Vice-versa? What about the drums? Piano? Lead vocals? Backing vocals? Bass? Rhythm guitar? Additional percussion? Production? Mixing? Mastering? Re-mastered versions? All of those are subjective.
Now: which song amongst Bo Rhap and STL was released first? Which song's album version is longer? Which single sold more copies in America? Britain? West Germany? East Germany? Laos? Which lead vocal covers a larger range? Which backing vocal covers a larger range? Which required more bouncing on the multi-tracks? Which has more chords? More simultaneous superimpositions? All of those have a clear definite answer (which we may or may not know), not open to debate.[/QUOTE] I see you're still an idiot Sebastain, lol
Sebastian · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Mike G wrote:[/b]
I see you're still an idiot Sebastain, lol
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Not really. 'Idiot' is a term for people whose IQ is 30 or below. Mine is above that, so I'm not an idiot. That, again, is not subjective.
marc.s · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]brENsKi wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE][b]marc.s wrote:[/b] hi brENsKi I did state it was my opinion quote "not the fantasy feel i personally get from Nevermore , FFMS, and FHLI" but I'll forgive ya for missing it. Subjectivity is what makes forums like this great.
[b]when i said this:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]brENsKi wrote:[/b]you need to be careful of stating something as fact when, it's only an opinion...[b][i]that last sentence***[/i][/b] is a case to point - see note 3 below
[i]3. wasn't SHA recorded sooner than planned because Brian got ill and they cancelled a tour - so they needed to maintain their presence while they were off the road?[/i][/QUOTE]
[b]it was purely in reply to this quote of yours:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]marc.s wrote:[/b][i] I do feel they had gone as far as they could in that direction. [b]They must have felt the same because they came up with SHA in the same year[/b][/i][b].[i]***[/i][/b][/QUOTE]
hope that clears up [i][b]your missing it[/b][/i]....i didn't miss anything :-)
[/QUOTE][/QUOTE] lol point taken I'll be more specific ;)
matt z · Member since
For he's Like in a jolly good fellow?
FHLI?
Oh right. ... funny how love is.
Yeah they maintained signature styles and sounds up until JAZZ partially why it wasn't as strong.
marc.s · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]matt z wrote:[/b]
For he's Like in a jolly good fellow?
FHLI?
Oh right. ... funny how love is.
Yeah they maintained signature styles and sounds up until JAZZ partially why it wasn't as strong. [/QUOTE] Still love Jazz though, it was all over the place but it was only the second Queen album I got upon release so I've gotta soft spot for it. Production is its biggest downfall. Roger plays some awesome drums but they get lost in the production;( IMO
brENsKi · Member since
always liked Jazz. had a nice "Rubber Soul" feel to it.
By that i mean
1. a dozen+ 3minute pop songs - all fairly instantly accessible.
2. a straight out of the gates speedy no:
mustapha vs drive my car
3. a maudlin one:
leaving home ain't easy vs nowhere man
4. a "little" experimentation:
fun it/dreamers ball vs norwegian wood/girl
5. a couple of short n sweet ballads:
jealousy/in only seven days vs michelle / in my life
The Real Wizard · Member since
I can appreciate the comparison - but there is no song on Jazz that remotely compares to the beauty and longevity of In My Life. It's simply one of the greatest songs ever written.
Maybe DSMN is comparable in longevity .. ?
brENsKi · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]
I can appreciate the comparison - but there is no song on Jazz that remotely compares to the beauty and longevity of In My Life. It's simply one of the greatest songs ever written.
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this ^^^
the absolute perfect song, both in structure, arrangement, lyrics, sentiment, and melody....
also has the confounding nature of "sounding like a macca composition" while actually being (mostly) written by lennon.
oh, and the GM bridge - fantastic.
definitely one for my own funeral choice...along with green day - good riddance, and boston a man i'll never be
