Love this essay. Thank you so much for stating the obvious. I saw Queen live with Freddie 12 times. I didn't ever think the magic could happen again, UNTIL Adam came along. I've been to 4 shows so far, and all I can say is WOW WOW WOW!!! Screw the naysayers, it truly is their loss. And it just means more great seats for the TRUE Queen fan's. [/QUOTE]
^^^^^^^ :)
Gattina · Member since
Excuse me??? "Gay cliche"?? Are you on crack? You can't hide the fact that you're *exactly* one of the whiners the author is referring to. Trust me, Freddie wouldn't like you or your attitude.
Gattina · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Bad Seed wrote:[/b]
Right. And you think it SO MUCH you had to post the same thing twice. Please back away from mommy's computer. The adults are trying to have a discussion.
The Real Wizard · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]hottramp wrote:[/b]
However, your insightful and on point post, which was shared on Twitter, finally lured me in.
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Indeed, apparently it's being talked about plenty and getting an overwhelmingly positive response.
Great post yourself :-)
brians wig · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]
How many 68 year old musicians who understand the health issues and touring schedules of 68 year old musicians and have the balls to cut other 68 year old musicians to shreds over their choices to play their music live as they want to? That's right - none. [/QUOTE]
Aerosmith. (Okay, Tyler's 66)
Sorry Bob. Couldn't resist! ;-)
inu-liger · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]
Leave it to the inherent bitterness of Holly to turn something positive into yet another Bri and Rog trashing session. When's the last time a single post here inspired a dozen people to join just to say "cool, that was refreshing" ? Has it ever happened in the 15 years this place has existed ?? [/QUOTE]
Never! The fact your post has inspired both long time Queen fans (making up the majority of the 'lurkers' here) and newer fans (Queen or AL) to come out in such a huge drove has definitely made this THE Queenzone topic of 2014, and probably will go down as one of the top 10 slam dunk topics ever.
Holly's problem is that he lacks the capability to look at himself from an outsider's perspective (no offense Holly!) so he wouldn't understand in the meantime why many here view him in such a critical fashion, and he probably won't realize it until it's past way too late.
Holly, all I will say is that you literally have absolutely no idea what you are missing by boycotting the shows. And you will regret it someday.
[QUOTE]Of course some people don't like his voice. Art is all about taste. But if Lambert's voice sucks and that's the primary reason why people seem to not like this collaboration, then why are all the arenas full? Why aren't people leaving during the show? And they're not Glambert kids. They're mostly middle aged Queen fans. [/QUOTE]
THIS! ^
I can back this up 100% having been to see two of these shows in separate cities.
k-m · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Gattina wrote:[/b]
Excuse me??? "Gay cliche"?? Are you on crack? You can't hide the fact that you're *exactly* one of the whiners the author is referring to. Trust me, Freddie wouldn't like you or your attitude. [/QUOTE]
I think the more appropriate question would be "Are YOU on crack??". The guy simply expressed his view, without being offensive whatsoever. There is really no reason to slam him/her like this and refer to "what Freddie would have thought about it". In fact, I don't think he would give a shit. Unlike you, he seemed to have some distance to himself and a bit of sense of humor. No reason to get excited.
SweetCaroline · Member since
All I have to say about this is that I was at the opening night in Chicago and am going again tomorrow to the show in Detroit. I was blown away the first time and from what I've been reading nothing has been lost along the way for the upcoming show No. 13 (out of 24 in North America). They are enjoying themselves on that stage and it transfers to the audience. It is a feast for your eyes and ears and I call it a missed opportunity to enjoy a truly magical night if you are able to be there and choose not to be there. I have seen hundreds of tweets from diehard Queen fans who have a new found respect for this collaboration once they experienced it live. Don't like Adam's voice? Is that based on recordings or videos? I don't understand it myself but he just sounds better when you hear him singing live. He's not the typical pop/rock star who needs autotuning to sound good. In his case, autotuning detracts from the pureness of that voice.
Arnaldo "Ogre-" Silveira · Member since
Great post, Bob! Many of the replies are also great, including the divergent ones. The only parts of what is going on here that I truly dislike are the sexual mentions and the difficulties of understanding different points of view many of you have. You all make excelent points, just be nice to each other, kids! :)
Cheers,
Ogre-
Wiley · Member since
Great post, Bob. Both (irrational) haters and Glamberts grind my gears, to be honest. This discussion is 10, no, 22 years old.
I remember being overly excited back in 1999 when Brian and Roger mentioned having talked to George Michael and having a "let's see what happens" attitude. I never thought I would see Queen live in any way, shape or form. Even if they toured the UK, I was 17. I had been in the UK the previous year as a tourist and I stood in front of the Royal Albert Hall's ticket booth for a couple of minutes. I almost bought a ticket for Brian's show but there was no way I stayed there two more months so I could attend. I was 16 then. Still, I nearly bought the ticket as memorabilia... I honestly thought that was the closest I would ever be to seeing Queen live.
In 2002 I was back in Europe on a summer course when Hyde Park's Party in the Park lineup was announced. Book my tickets for that weekend. Took a bunch of friends with me with the excuse that they would see Shakira, Shaggy, The Calling, Enrique Iglesias or whoever they liked in the lineup. Arrived to the show but Brian and Roger decided they didn't want to steal the limelight from the We Will Rock You cast. They simply didn't come out. I was there but Brian and Roger stayed backstage. I felt stupid doing the Radio Ga ga clap to the Ga Ga kids. What a bummer!
Come 2004, Brian is playing Dallas in Clapton's Crossroads festival. I was 23 and READY now. It was MY time. I borrowed somebody's credit card and skipped class from my Master's degree so I could buy the tickets. I was literally outside the classroom with my laptop, calling Ticketmaster USA on the phone (long distance from Mexico), securing my tickets while my classmates all looked at me. They knew what I was doing. I had spoken about it for days. Everybody knew how important it was for me, being an ardent Queen fan. I got the tickets. I was going to see Brian live and all had to do was to get on a bus for 12 hours. I could afford it now. It was my time... except it wasn't. A month before the show, Brian cancelled. He was tired.
I still went to the show. Saw great musicians there... no Brian, though.
I won't go into detail on the marvelous experience of finally seeing Queen with Paul Rodgers in Europe 2005 and one more show in San Diego in 2006. I would be redundant. It's the same story as before, but now I was ready and Queen was ready. It was meant to happen. I was old enough, had the money and the time to fly over the Atlantic to see them. That would have been impossible only a year before. Loved every minute of those 5 shows.
Now I'm seeing 6 shows. Even since 2006, my life is very different now. Married, got a son. Now I live in New York. This time, Queen is coming to me and, so help me God, We Will Rock.
Band Forever · Member since
Hello Gattina, I trust you are lady with this name?
I do wake up every morning to the Crack of Dawn or whatever you may call her. A Natural high and better than the illegal substance you seem to be familiar with.
Adam Lambert is the latest Bandwagon rolling into town so appreciate him while he is at the height of his popularity. Freddie and Queen sustained this for 20/25 Years because they had god given musical talent and staying power.
The only aspect of the old Queen I was disappointed with is they never played with an Orchestra until the Freddie Tribute. The Choral effect with Freddie in his prime would have been immense.
Looking forward to the new Queen Album, I am sure they will polish up a gem here.
master marathon runner · Member since
68 ? - fuck all nowadays, - I saw Andy Williams when he was 75 and he cruised it.
someonewholikesadam · Member since
FROM BRIAN MAY'S TWITTER:
Dr. Brian May @DrBrianMay · 14 Min.
Adam smashed all the benchmarks tonight. Yeeeeow – He's a gift from God, Mama !!! pic.twitter.com/rTkXLtZijR @adamlambert Bri
Dr. Brian May @DrBrianMay · 34 Min.
DALLAS folks – I believe tonight you saw the finest Queen show since 1986. Thanks @glamfamdoc Now I can sleep ! Bri
brENsKi · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]The negativity on this forum is not unexpected, but still incredibly disappointing to witness. A decade ago Queen fans were aching for any kind of collaboration between Brian and Roger, never mind full-scale tours where they are playing songs they haven't played in 30 years (or ever).
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I agree with almost everything you've said - except that your opening comments overlook one key fact:
while it's commendable that they do try to keep things going, and it's 100% their right to continue and do as they wish, it's OUR right as consumers and fans to say what we think of something.
Sadly, the singers/collaborations I personally think would work well are NEVER going to happen.
- whch just leaves this project...if they produce something good then I for one will definitely praise them, and conversely, i reserve my right to critcise anything i don't like...and I don't like this latest project.
Sharp dose of reality: If your Châteuaneuf-du-Pape tastes like Sarsons would you continue drinking politely pretending everything is great?
people on streets · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]brians wig wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]
How many 68 year old musicians who understand the health issues and touring schedules of 68 year old musicians and have the balls to cut other 68 year old musicians to shreds over their choices to play their music live as they want to? That's right - none. [/QUOTE]
Aerosmith. (Okay, Tyler's 66)
Sorry Bob. Couldn't resist! ;-)
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Rolling Stones
Roger Waters
Neil Young
Bob Dylan
Paul Mccartney
Leonard Cohen
Charles Aznavour
Barbra Streisand
Tina Turner
