Last Verse of Mother Love

Apologies if this has been discussed before.....
I know Brian says Freddie was too ill to record the last verse etc but was it written before or after his death?
Listening to the lyrics, surely he wouldn't want Freddie to sing those words?

Before his death, in fact although Brian says he wrote the last verse the Illustrated Lyrics Book has the whole thing copied out in Freddies handwriting….

Which means it was either copied over from the scraps of paper Brian was writing on… or he is lying (if you like conspiracy theories)

[QUOTE] [b]scottmax wrote:[/b]

Listening to the lyrics, surely he wouldn't want Freddie to sing those words?[/QUOTE]

Why you say that? What is on that last verse that Brian didn't want Freddie to sing?

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[QUOTE] [b]scottmax wrote:[/b]

Listening to the lyrics, surely he wouldn't want Freddie to sing those words?[/QUOTE]

Why you say that? What is on that last verse that Brian didn't want Freddie to sing?
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As in it's basically describing Freddie and how he would probably would be feeling about his impending mortality. Could you sing about your own death ?!

Perhaps it's not like Brian didn't want Freddie to sing it but Freddie himself refused to do that?

To me this last verse says basically I'm gonna die. Surely that must be a bit depressing thing to sing when you are about to die? I believe Freddie was positive type of man hence the songs like A Winter's Tale (about the beautiful world around him) and The Miracle in his last years.

[QUOTE] [b]Chief Mouse wrote:[/b]

Perhaps it's not like Brian didn't want Freddie to sing it but Freddie himself refused to do that?

To me this last verse says basically I'm gonna die. Surely that must be a bit depressing thing to sing when you are about to die? I believe Freddie was positive type of man hence the songs like A Winter's Tale (about the beautiful world around him) and The Miracle in his last years.[/QUOTE]

If Freddie didn't like that last verse and wasn't going to sing it, why would he have written it out?

The last verses was written by Brian surely, the complete lyrics book it´s a good proof. In fact Freddie never could finished off the song,(speculations out!! about he never wanted), because he told Brian about coming back another day and he couldn´t do it.

Queen Days Of Our Lives documentary-Brian the last moments in the studio with him-

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[b]Vocal harmony wrote: [/b] [QUOTE] [b]Chief Mouse wrote:[/b]

Perhaps it's not like Brian didn't want Freddie to sing it but Freddie himself refused to do that?

To me this last verse says basically I'm gonna die. Surely that must be a bit depressing thing to sing when you are about to die? I believe Freddie was positive type of man hence the songs like A Winter's Tale (about the beautiful world around him) and The Miracle in his last years.[/QUOTE]

If Freddie didn't like that last verse and wasn't going to sing it, why would he have written it out?[/QUOTE]

I don't know. It's a speculation from my side. I guess the only way to find out is to ask Brian.

Great subject and thank you for it. I believe that Freddie was stretched to sing this song. It was humiliating and denigrating. I feel Freddie walked away of course because he was sick, but perhaps also because he hated the song and couldn't participate in its making. This was Brian's song and in healthier happier days, Freddie would challenge any bandmate on compositions and lyrics. Yes, Freddie's last song, A Winters Tale, was beautifully positive about life just as he had been throughout his life. That the other two went along with Brian's finishing it is amazing to me. It is vocally and instrumentally beautiful though.

You know, I had never thought of that? Great discussion.
Freddie was always a totally positive man. It just occurred to me how terrible he must have felt reading the lyrics when Brian first presented them to him. How do you give a dying man a song like that to sing?

Has this been discussed before? I mean we know Brian hasn't got the best memory on the world and it's a great 'story' to say that Freddie never came back in to finish the song off etc. I think if Brian was asked you'd not get a reply as if it wasn't written when he was alive, it'd make him a liar!

[QUOTE] [b]noorie wrote:[/b]

You know, I had never thought of that? Great discussion.
Freddie was always a totally positive man. It just occurred to me how terrible he must have felt reading the lyrics when Brian first presented them to him. How do you give a dying man a song like that to sing? [/QUOTE]

Like a bad pup dog, Brian rubbing Freddie's nose in the piddle as punishment for what he had done to himself (and possibly the band, .i.e. 'look what you destroyed.'). The very last of the song with the baby crying and Freddie's baby picture is OTT for me. According to Peter Freestone, Freddie held no regrets (although I am sure he had a few).

But again, the song is beautiful, and if you don't analyze it, very remarkable that Brian's voice sounds exactly like Freddie's, which can also be analyzed.

Brian's voice sounds nothing like Freddie's ! I always felt that Freddie would not have been comfortable singing those last lines, so maybe Brian took a bit of liberty and put them in anyway, and the final lines don't really fit with the mood of the rest of the song IMO.

Are you bloody kidding me? He fucking sung " i long for peace before i die". This is as close to home as it gets. Not wanting to finish the song for personal/ subconscious reasons is one thing.
To state that the last verses are lyricaly more painfull than the rest of the song just dosent make sence. 'Cos they are not. From start to finish the song is all about closure and prominent death. No gray areas for Freddie to "feel comfortable".

I don't want to sleep with you
I don't need the passion too
I don't want a stormy affair
To make me feel my life is heading somewhere
All I want is the comfort and care
Just to know that my woman gives me sweet -
Mother love
I've walked too long in this lonely lane
I've had enough of this same old game
I'm a man of the world and they say I'm strong
But my heart is heavy and my hope is gone
Out in the city, in the cold world outside
I don't want pity, just safe place to hide
Mama please, let me back inside
I don't want to make no waves
But you can give me all the love that I crave
I can't take if you see me cry
I long for peace before I die
All I want to know that you're there
You're gonna give me all your sweet -
Mother love
My body's aching, but I can't sleep
My dreams are all the company I keep
Got such a feeling as the sun goes down
I'm coming home to my sweet -
Mother love

Yeah, I think I am on the wrong track with my previous post. It doesn't denigrate, but is definitely a downer. Maybe Brian is attempting to empathize with Freddie's situation. Did Freddie really want not to finish it, or was he really too sick to come back to I?. Who the hell would want to sing that about themselves unless they were into self pity, which Freddie wasn't and I'm sure didn't want a song that described his pain to be part of his legendary work. Conspiracy theory: he walked away from the song because he didn't like it and couldn't tell Brian how he felt.