noorie
^^^^^ Thank you. It shows how quickly we lose perspective!!!! Other less wasteful ways to collect money for charity, especially since the world is going through a water crisis.
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GERRYISADICK
[QUOTE] [b]Dim wrote:[/b]
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Who gives a shit?
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Who gives a shit?
mooghead
But if this hadn't happened the world would still have a water crisis and 40 million dollars wouldn't have been raised for the most hideous disease I can imagine. Who exactly has lost perspective here?
GERRYISADICK
Everyone everyone even obama
noorie
Mooghead, the same celebrities could have done something else, you know? Something that did not waste a ton of water??? Most people just want to see the celebs do wacky stuff... it does not matter what!
I am very glad to see money being raised for ALS. My best friend is dying of ALS in a horrible way, but I also feel for the millions of people who cannot get a glass of clean water each day. So one good deed should not happen at the cost of others..
Just my opinion.
I am very glad to see money being raised for ALS. My best friend is dying of ALS in a horrible way, but I also feel for the millions of people who cannot get a glass of clean water each day. So one good deed should not happen at the cost of others..
Just my opinion.
mooghead
No one dying of thirst would have been saved if this thing hadn't have happened, I have yet to see someone from a country suffering from famine doing the water challenge. There is a water crisis in SOME parts of the world, in some places water is plentiful, its not right but its the way it is. Celebs do these things to raise their profile and get publicity, its a hideous thing but it gets the message out there and raises HUGE amounts of money, even if it is a side effect of their shameless self promotion.
What it has done is raise awareness of ALS. For what its worth I had absolutely no idea that motor neurone disease is also known as ALS, it would appear that ALS is also known as motor neurone disease. There are no negatives from this current trend.
There will be another one next week, I can put up with a few grinning 'celebs' jump on the band wagon for the awareness and millions it will raise for charity.
OR, we could have saved all that water and be 40 million dollars down on a cure for the worst death imaginable.
What it has done is raise awareness of ALS. For what its worth I had absolutely no idea that motor neurone disease is also known as ALS, it would appear that ALS is also known as motor neurone disease. There are no negatives from this current trend.
There will be another one next week, I can put up with a few grinning 'celebs' jump on the band wagon for the awareness and millions it will raise for charity.
OR, we could have saved all that water and be 40 million dollars down on a cure for the worst death imaginable.
queenUSA
More clean fresh water is coming to African villages these days thanks to American charities making the effort to go there with their funds and resources to dig a well for them in their village. Once their well is ready then, for the first time ever, they can pump their own water to cook, clean and drink. A well is a permanent gift of water to their village. This effort is also underway in other poor nations, providing clean, drinkable water to many. You should see the look of joy, surprise, and relief on their faces when the water comes rushing out. Such a sound and smiles! No more walking for miles, going without, or drinking dangerously unfresh water. Why don't more countries also join in to dig and provide a well in each village? Think what could be accomplished working together and quickly. Maybe THAT should be the next challenge?? We could suggest it!!
See the WaterProject.org to get involved.
See the WaterProject.org to get involved.
mooghead
"See the WaterProject.org to get involved"
A fantastic charity.
No need to resent others though, that some people seem to be doing.
A fantastic charity.
No need to resent others though, that some people seem to be doing.
The Real Wizard
[QUOTE] [b]noorie wrote:[/b]
Mooghead, the same celebrities could have done something else, you know? Something that did not waste a ton of water??? Most people just want to see the celebs do wacky stuff... it does not matter what!
I am very glad to see money being raised for ALS. My best friend is dying of ALS in a horrible way, but I also feel for the millions of people who cannot get a glass of clean water each day. So one good deed should not happen at the cost of others..
Just my opinion.[/QUOTE]
Totally understand that perspective.
But alas, that's sometimes not the way of the world. One civilization has always existed at the expense of another.
If you'd like to think of a better way to get celebrities worldwide to raise millions for ALS, we're all ears.
Mooghead, the same celebrities could have done something else, you know? Something that did not waste a ton of water??? Most people just want to see the celebs do wacky stuff... it does not matter what!
I am very glad to see money being raised for ALS. My best friend is dying of ALS in a horrible way, but I also feel for the millions of people who cannot get a glass of clean water each day. So one good deed should not happen at the cost of others..
Just my opinion.[/QUOTE]
Totally understand that perspective.
But alas, that's sometimes not the way of the world. One civilization has always existed at the expense of another.
If you'd like to think of a better way to get celebrities worldwide to raise millions for ALS, we're all ears.
pittrek
BRAVO, SIR Patrick :-)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ADT_iBYqsk
mooghead
I am doing the same as a contribution x
emrabt
Good old Patrick Stewart, the same thing Charley Sheen did, but didn't gloat about how much he was donating.
noorie
[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]noorie wrote:[/b]
Mooghead, the same celebrities could have done something else, you know? Something that did not waste a ton of water??? Most people just want to see the celebs do wacky stuff... it does not matter what!
I am very glad to see money being raised for ALS. My best friend is dying of ALS in a horrible way, but I also feel for the millions of people who cannot get a glass of clean water each day. So one good deed should not happen at the cost of others..
Just my opinion.[/QUOTE]
Totally understand that perspective.
But alas, that's sometimes not the way of the world. One civilization has always existed at the expense of another.
If you'd like to think of a better way to get celebrities worldwide to raise millions for ALS, we're all ears.[/QUOTE]
Well, I guess Patrick Stewart showed us a very classy way. But I understand not every celeb wants to donate money. In that case there are still a ton of ways celebs can raise money these days. Pose for calendars, hold a show, sing for charity. Why drench themselves with water??? More fun to challenge each other to sing a song..? I mean there are literally hundreds of ways to do this. Really!
Queen USA, you have done your bit. Thanks for the waterproject tip!
[QUOTE] [b]noorie wrote:[/b]
Mooghead, the same celebrities could have done something else, you know? Something that did not waste a ton of water??? Most people just want to see the celebs do wacky stuff... it does not matter what!
I am very glad to see money being raised for ALS. My best friend is dying of ALS in a horrible way, but I also feel for the millions of people who cannot get a glass of clean water each day. So one good deed should not happen at the cost of others..
Just my opinion.[/QUOTE]
Totally understand that perspective.
But alas, that's sometimes not the way of the world. One civilization has always existed at the expense of another.
If you'd like to think of a better way to get celebrities worldwide to raise millions for ALS, we're all ears.[/QUOTE]
Well, I guess Patrick Stewart showed us a very classy way. But I understand not every celeb wants to donate money. In that case there are still a ton of ways celebs can raise money these days. Pose for calendars, hold a show, sing for charity. Why drench themselves with water??? More fun to challenge each other to sing a song..? I mean there are literally hundreds of ways to do this. Really!
Queen USA, you have done your bit. Thanks for the waterproject tip!
noorie
Here is a link from Brian's soapbox.
[url=http://healthimpactnews.com/2014/als-ice-bucket-challenge-do-you-know-what-you-are-supporting/]http://healthimpactnews.com/2014/als-ice-bucket-challenge-do-you-know-what-you-are-supporting/[/url]
Here are a couple of paragraphs from the article.
Where Does the Money Contributed to the ALS Association Go?
So where does the money donated to the ALS Association actually go? You may be surprised to find out that the Association itself claims that only 27% of its funds go towards research.
We pulled up their 2013 tax returns to take a closer look at how their funds are spent. Here are the salaries for the leadership of the group:Jane H. Gilbert – President and CEO – $339,475.00Daniel M. Reznikov – Chief Financial Officer – $201,260.00Steve Gibson – Chief Public Policy Officer – $182,862.00Kimberly Maginnis - Chief of Care Services Officer – $160,646.00Lance Slaughter - Chief Chapter Relations and Development Officer – $152,692.00Michelle Keegan – Chief Development Officer – $178,744.00John Applegate – Association Finance Officer – $118.726.00David Moses – Director of Planned Giving – $112,509.00Carrie Munk – Chief Communications and Marketing Officer – $142,875.00Patrick Wildman – Director of Public Policy – $112,358.00Kathi Kromer – Director of State Advocacy – $110,661.00Total administration costs, as seen in the pie chart above, were just under $2 million. “Other salaries and wages” (Part IX line 7) were $3.6 million, with another half million dollars in “pension plans” and “employee benefits.” Expenses for non-employee labor were about $4 million, and “travel expenses” exceeded $1.3 million.So total costs for labor to run the association was around $12.5 million, from revenues received totaling $24 million.Over 50% of what the ALS Association receives appears to support salaries of people working for the Association, based on these tax returns.So what about the rest of the revenue?Almost $1 million was spent on “Lobbying” (Schedule C Part II 2a). Here is what they wrote concerning their Lobbying efforts:Explanation: The purpose of our advocacy program is to sensitize legislators to, and obtain their sympathy for, the plight of ALS victims, patients and their families, and to influence legislation regarding the appropriation of federal funds for ALS research and the use and cost to patients of “orphan” drugs.The largest amount of what is remaining is: “Grants and other assistance to governments and organizations in the United States” (Part IX line 1) – $6.2 million. This amount is itemized on Schedule 1. Almost all of these recipients are medical schools, with strong ties to the pharmaceutical industry.The ALS Association was started in 1985, and they still have not invested in any new cures for ALS. One of the latest failures was Biogen’s drug dexpramipexole, which halted research in early 2013. The drug was in research for more than 10 years at an estimated cost of between $75 million and $100 million, but was abandoned in last stage development due to poor results. (Source.)
[url=http://healthimpactnews.com/2014/als-ice-bucket-challenge-do-you-know-what-you-are-supporting/]http://healthimpactnews.com/2014/als-ice-bucket-challenge-do-you-know-what-you-are-supporting/[/url]
Here are a couple of paragraphs from the article.
Where Does the Money Contributed to the ALS Association Go?
So where does the money donated to the ALS Association actually go? You may be surprised to find out that the Association itself claims that only 27% of its funds go towards research.
We pulled up their 2013 tax returns to take a closer look at how their funds are spent. Here are the salaries for the leadership of the group:Jane H. Gilbert – President and CEO – $339,475.00Daniel M. Reznikov – Chief Financial Officer – $201,260.00Steve Gibson – Chief Public Policy Officer – $182,862.00Kimberly Maginnis - Chief of Care Services Officer – $160,646.00Lance Slaughter - Chief Chapter Relations and Development Officer – $152,692.00Michelle Keegan – Chief Development Officer – $178,744.00John Applegate – Association Finance Officer – $118.726.00David Moses – Director of Planned Giving – $112,509.00Carrie Munk – Chief Communications and Marketing Officer – $142,875.00Patrick Wildman – Director of Public Policy – $112,358.00Kathi Kromer – Director of State Advocacy – $110,661.00Total administration costs, as seen in the pie chart above, were just under $2 million. “Other salaries and wages” (Part IX line 7) were $3.6 million, with another half million dollars in “pension plans” and “employee benefits.” Expenses for non-employee labor were about $4 million, and “travel expenses” exceeded $1.3 million.So total costs for labor to run the association was around $12.5 million, from revenues received totaling $24 million.Over 50% of what the ALS Association receives appears to support salaries of people working for the Association, based on these tax returns.So what about the rest of the revenue?Almost $1 million was spent on “Lobbying” (Schedule C Part II 2a). Here is what they wrote concerning their Lobbying efforts:Explanation: The purpose of our advocacy program is to sensitize legislators to, and obtain their sympathy for, the plight of ALS victims, patients and their families, and to influence legislation regarding the appropriation of federal funds for ALS research and the use and cost to patients of “orphan” drugs.The largest amount of what is remaining is: “Grants and other assistance to governments and organizations in the United States” (Part IX line 1) – $6.2 million. This amount is itemized on Schedule 1. Almost all of these recipients are medical schools, with strong ties to the pharmaceutical industry.The ALS Association was started in 1985, and they still have not invested in any new cures for ALS. One of the latest failures was Biogen’s drug dexpramipexole, which halted research in early 2013. The drug was in research for more than 10 years at an estimated cost of between $75 million and $100 million, but was abandoned in last stage development due to poor results. (Source.)
tomchristie22
[QUOTE] [b]thomasquinn 32989 wrote:[/b]
I really don't see the point behind this crazy fad. If you're going to raise awareness about ALS, you might choose a way that would draw attention to, say, ALS, and not to some deranged frat-boy antics. Why not spend the effort wasted on ice buckets and getting drenched on raising some actual money.[/QUOTE]
The ice bucket over head thing is meant to emulate, in some very small way, the numbness and paralysis a sufferer of Motor Neuron Disease would experience.
I really don't see the point behind this crazy fad. If you're going to raise awareness about ALS, you might choose a way that would draw attention to, say, ALS, and not to some deranged frat-boy antics. Why not spend the effort wasted on ice buckets and getting drenched on raising some actual money.[/QUOTE]
The ice bucket over head thing is meant to emulate, in some very small way, the numbness and paralysis a sufferer of Motor Neuron Disease would experience.