Good post Bob. However, the difference between audio and video tapes is an important one I think.
You may feel the post Freddie recordings have not collectible value. Maybe for you they don't. Maybe they don't have collectible value for many Queen fans. I think it's logical that most people will prefer Queen with Freddie recordings over anything else Queen related. Most people here are Queen fans. Not Queen+ fans.
However, there's a huge group of Queen fans who collect Queen with Freddie AND Queen + / Queen related recordings as well. Collecting Queen with Freddie doesn't have to mean one isn't interested in Queen + / Queen related recordings as well. Most 30+ y/o Queen fans went to see Brian / Roger / The Cross / QPR in the late 80's / 90's / 00's and some of those fans love collecting souvenirs of the shows they went to see.
Audio might be quite common, video however is something different. It's only in recent years that video became incredibly mainstream. Queen + / Queen related 1987 - 2006 fan shot videos are still not really common compaired to for example the Q+AL footage that is now available on youtube.
Even more special are pro shot concert videos such as Roger in Cologne 1994 or Brian May Albert Hall 1998. Of course, it's no Queen with Freddie footage but I wouldn't say it has no collectible value at all.
Of course some things like Brian singing "Long Away" are available on youtube, but many other things are not on youtube. Or not in decent master tape quality.
I guess collecting is very personal. It all depends on what footage / audio you are after. Personally I prefer any uncirculated Queen with Freddie material. Especially video. I do like some Queen related things as well. Brian May solo 1998 videos and Queen+PR videos of the shows I went to see for example. Other fans, like you maybe, prefer only Queen with Freddie footage/audio.
people on streets · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Doga wrote:[/b]
There was a gig from the Cosmos Rocks Tour shared for free, Chile, i think. Of course without the glitter of the ukranian gig, but musically much better.
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Leaked from a TV station if I remember correctly.
Marknow · Member since
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[b]people on streets wrote: [/b] [b]Don't forget the first Q+PR tour was almost 10 years ago. If you wanted to film back then, you had to buy a mini dv tape camcorder. [/b]
Couldn't agree more with you, have you seen my Dublin 2005 videos, shot on a digital camera and they look like shite. Technology has come on leaps and bounds in 10 years.
[b]Nowadays everyone can "film" with their photocam or smartphone. The so called good coverage of this Q+AL tour is mainly that: cellphone youtube movies edited together. most populair concerts these days can be edited together if you do a good youtube search. [/b]
Not a single frame of cellphone footage in the 14 multicams I did. There is a lot more to doing a 2 hour + multicam than doing a good search on youtube, believe me it takes up about 5% of the total time to produce these shows. [b]
However, A proper single shot full show video with decent equipment used by a real taper who knows what he's doing is still not that common. Not in 2005 not now. Due to modern equipment taping, especially video, has become more accesable than ever the last couple of years. However, real decent shot full concert videos are still not that easy to get. [/b]
Check out TALC vids on youtube from the recent tour, fantastic camera work, check out Fircellan and JerseyGirl too, all full concerts shot with expensive camcorders in 1080p. Fantastic camera work from all of them. They have all shared multiple shows in full HD, TALC alone have shot around 15-20 full shows between the 4 of them. There are many more I could name too. I have spent days reviewing their footage and most of it is very well shot in stunning quality.
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people on streets · Member since
Cool! Thanks for the info Mark. Although I dont like Q+AL I do like your work.
someonewholikesadam · Member since
TALC ROCKS! They have recorded every AL concert in every venue in every country with amazing quality. In case you're wondering, TALC stands for The Adam Lambert Connection.
Holly2003 · Member since
Someone shared a link to a full fan-made Queen-Lambert concert. It was a compilation of various fan footage and using one (I think) good audio. Have to admit, it was very good for a fan-made prodict. Pearl Jams fans also do this ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrRwG6hO5t0 ).
people on streets · Member since
Many fan communities do this. Muse and U2 as well for example.
winterspelt · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]people on streets wrote:[/b]
Many fan communities do this. Muse and U2 as well for example.[/QUOTE]
But the fact another communities do it too, should not minimize the Queen/Adam fans' effort.
In fact you dont see very often such a different communities (in terms of music genre, age and bitterness against Adam from some Queen fans) working together. Those differences just make the current Q+AL tour and collaboration a lot bigger than many people can imagine.
bluenile · Member since
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[b]Holly2003 wrote: [/b] Someone shared a link to a full fan-made Queen-Lambert concert. It was a compilation of various fan footage and using one (I think) good audio.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, Mr. Marknow has been my favorite person this summer. ;) He's made like, 20 multi-cam concerts for the current tour? What spectacular work!
people on streets · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]winterspelt wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]people on streets wrote:[/b]
Many fan communities do this. Muse and U2 as well for example.[/QUOTE]
But the fact another communities do it too, should not minimize the Queen/Adam fans' effort.
In fact you dont see very often such a different communities (in terms of music genre, age and bitterness against Adam from some Queen fans) working together. Those differences just make the current Q+AL tour and collaboration a lot bigger than many people can imagine.
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Communities working together? It's mainly AL fans + 1 Queenzoner (Marknow).
winterspelt · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]people on streets wrote:[/b]
Communities working together? It's mainly AL fans + 1 Queenzoner (Marknow). [/QUOTE]
Queenzone is just one of perhaps thousand of Queen communities all over the world. I certainly know about some Queen and Adam communities working together, not doing videos, but supporting both Queen and Adam in Spain, Mexico (the Adam fans are perhaps a few hundred while Queen fans are thousands) Venezuela, USA and Brazil and Im sure it happens in many other countries as well. I know it because I have been providing some assistance to them in one way or another.