... or something like that.
See > http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2826858/Bubbles-chimp-delayed-Jacko-Freddie-s-duet-nearly-30-years-drove-Queen-frontman-ape.html#newcomment
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Nitroboy
Lama or chimp... Either way, it's still hilarious incident, and it cracks me up every time I read about it.
Ale Solan
I bet Jacko not only liked to rape children but also part of his zoo. (if not all)
Fucking lunatic.
Fucking lunatic.
matt z
^he was raised a Jehovah's witness.
He looked up to HIS MOTHER like a saint.
He was full of empathy and shy
He watched his dad and brother's screw groupies sometimes in the same room.
He worked at strip joints late nights before getting up to go to school the next day.
He was repeatedly abused by his dad along with his siblings
And it's been suggested that he was "lent out to studio execs etc" some nights to do God knows what.
If he had his millions and built a sanctuary then so be it. He earned it.
That's what Neverland WAS .
As the recordings took place in Encino, it wasn't yet the animal sanctuary he had in Neverland. Boa, chimp, llamas.
Now to the extent that things happened according to allegations who really knows.
The allegations much like legislation had it's own set of "riders"
The first being the Chandler kids nearly estranged father who wanted Michael (rich famous family friend now) to back his production company for films (upwards of 15-20 million)
when Michael refused, he put his kid under sodium amythal (hereafter known to be suspect with "planted memories")
So those allegations are not without reasonable doubt.
The second allegations were by a con artist and were absurd.
Until you get the Chandler Kid to tell his own story both are marred by inconsistencies.
As for raping animals... That's crazy.
He looked up to HIS MOTHER like a saint.
He was full of empathy and shy
He watched his dad and brother's screw groupies sometimes in the same room.
He worked at strip joints late nights before getting up to go to school the next day.
He was repeatedly abused by his dad along with his siblings
And it's been suggested that he was "lent out to studio execs etc" some nights to do God knows what.
If he had his millions and built a sanctuary then so be it. He earned it.
That's what Neverland WAS .
As the recordings took place in Encino, it wasn't yet the animal sanctuary he had in Neverland. Boa, chimp, llamas.
Now to the extent that things happened according to allegations who really knows.
The allegations much like legislation had it's own set of "riders"
The first being the Chandler kids nearly estranged father who wanted Michael (rich famous family friend now) to back his production company for films (upwards of 15-20 million)
when Michael refused, he put his kid under sodium amythal (hereafter known to be suspect with "planted memories")
So those allegations are not without reasonable doubt.
The second allegations were by a con artist and were absurd.
Until you get the Chandler Kid to tell his own story both are marred by inconsistencies.
As for raping animals... That's crazy.
Riku M
[QUOTE] [b]matt z wrote:[/b]
^he was raised a Jehovah's witness.
He looked up to HIS MOTHER like a saint.
He was full of empathy and shy
He watched his dad and brother's screw groupies sometimes in the same room.
He worked at strip joints late nights before getting up to go to school the next day.
He was repeatedly abused by his dad along with his siblings
And it's been suggested that he was "lent out to studio execs etc" some nights to do God knows what.
If he had his millions and built a sanctuary then so be it. He earned it.
That's what Neverland WAS .
As the recordings took place in Encino, it wasn't yet the animal sanctuary he had in Neverland. Boa, chimp, llamas.
Now to the extent that things happened according to allegations who really knows.
The allegations much like legislation had it's own set of "riders"
The first being the Chandler kids nearly estranged father who wanted Michael (rich famous family friend now) to back his production company for films (upwards of 15-20 million)
when Michael refused, he put his kid under sodium amythal (hereafter known to be suspect with "planted memories")
So those allegations are not without reasonable doubt.
The second allegations were by a con artist and were absurd.
Until you get the Chandler Kid to tell his own story both are marred by inconsistencies.
As for raping animals... That's crazy. [/QUOTE]
Nice to read some common sense every once in a while. The hate against Michael and the amount of shit throwing on this site is really sad.
^he was raised a Jehovah's witness.
He looked up to HIS MOTHER like a saint.
He was full of empathy and shy
He watched his dad and brother's screw groupies sometimes in the same room.
He worked at strip joints late nights before getting up to go to school the next day.
He was repeatedly abused by his dad along with his siblings
And it's been suggested that he was "lent out to studio execs etc" some nights to do God knows what.
If he had his millions and built a sanctuary then so be it. He earned it.
That's what Neverland WAS .
As the recordings took place in Encino, it wasn't yet the animal sanctuary he had in Neverland. Boa, chimp, llamas.
Now to the extent that things happened according to allegations who really knows.
The allegations much like legislation had it's own set of "riders"
The first being the Chandler kids nearly estranged father who wanted Michael (rich famous family friend now) to back his production company for films (upwards of 15-20 million)
when Michael refused, he put his kid under sodium amythal (hereafter known to be suspect with "planted memories")
So those allegations are not without reasonable doubt.
The second allegations were by a con artist and were absurd.
Until you get the Chandler Kid to tell his own story both are marred by inconsistencies.
As for raping animals... That's crazy. [/QUOTE]
Nice to read some common sense every once in a while. The hate against Michael and the amount of shit throwing on this site is really sad.
Costa86
No matter which way you put it, Michael Jackson was a rather disturbed personality. Yes, he had a very very unique life with circumstances (abuse from his father, being so famous at such a young age, having to dedicate himself to singing and dancing, not having had a childhood, etc) which can in a way explain his behaviour. But it is impossible to defend completely his behaviour concerning children. While we can say with confidence that some people took the opportunity to use child abuse as a way of getting money from Michael Jackson, I don't think we can dismiss every single (and there are many) claim of improper conduct on his part towards children.
One child, for instance, described Michael's penis - and he described it correctly (apparently MJ had some indentifying marks/skin colour on his penis) - how else would this child have known what to describe except by having seen it? Added to this there are countless - literally - of stories, told by a variety of people, some of which stood to gain nothing, of Michael behaving in an abnormal way around children.
One child, for instance, described Michael's penis - and he described it correctly (apparently MJ had some indentifying marks/skin colour on his penis) - how else would this child have known what to describe except by having seen it? Added to this there are countless - literally - of stories, told by a variety of people, some of which stood to gain nothing, of Michael behaving in an abnormal way around children.
Toon_86
Not too sure about what David Wigg writes these days. The legend of Freddie / Jackson recording seems to grow continuously. The only accurate description I believe is in Peter Freestone's book, which doesn't mention anything about llama's or chimps in the studio and, unlike the story in the link, seems to indicate that Freddie was only there for 1 day.
He also wrote a piece about Freddie finding out about his HIV status as early as 1984. That must be BS. So Freddie would tell a journalist that, but not people he lived with, like Phoebe again. One of the things that his book does mention, but I've not seen on QZ is Freddie was never diagnosed with HIV, but AIDS immediately.
He also wrote a piece about Freddie finding out about his HIV status as early as 1984. That must be BS. So Freddie would tell a journalist that, but not people he lived with, like Phoebe again. One of the things that his book does mention, but I've not seen on QZ is Freddie was never diagnosed with HIV, but AIDS immediately.
Ale Solan
[QUOTE] [b]Riku M wrote:[/b]
Nice to read some common sense every once in a while. The hate against Michael and the amount of shit throwing on this site is really sad.[/QUOTE]
Here you have some common sense, cocksucker.
[QUOTE] [b]Costa86 wrote:[/b]
No matter which way you put it, Michael Jackson was a rather disturbed personality. Yes, he had a very very unique life with circumstances (abuse from his father, being so famous at such a young age, having to dedicate himself to singing and dancing, not having had a childhood, etc) which can in a way explain his behaviour. But it is impossible to defend completely his behaviour concerning children. While we can say with confidence that some people took the opportunity to use child abuse as a way of getting money from Michael Jackson, I don't think we can dismiss every single (and there are many) claim of improper conduct on his part towards children.
One child, for instance, described Michael's penis - and he described it correctly (apparently MJ had some indentifying marks/skin colour on his penis) - how else would this child have known what to describe except by having seen it? Added to this there are countless - literally - of stories, told by a variety of people, some of which stood to gain nothing, of Michael behaving in an abnormal way around children.[/QUOTE]
Nice to read some common sense every once in a while. The hate against Michael and the amount of shit throwing on this site is really sad.[/QUOTE]
Here you have some common sense, cocksucker.
[QUOTE] [b]Costa86 wrote:[/b]
No matter which way you put it, Michael Jackson was a rather disturbed personality. Yes, he had a very very unique life with circumstances (abuse from his father, being so famous at such a young age, having to dedicate himself to singing and dancing, not having had a childhood, etc) which can in a way explain his behaviour. But it is impossible to defend completely his behaviour concerning children. While we can say with confidence that some people took the opportunity to use child abuse as a way of getting money from Michael Jackson, I don't think we can dismiss every single (and there are many) claim of improper conduct on his part towards children.
One child, for instance, described Michael's penis - and he described it correctly (apparently MJ had some indentifying marks/skin colour on his penis) - how else would this child have known what to describe except by having seen it? Added to this there are countless - literally - of stories, told by a variety of people, some of which stood to gain nothing, of Michael behaving in an abnormal way around children.[/QUOTE]
Thistle
Brilliant post Matt! Wish the MJ bashing would stop.
Yes, he was a disturbed individual - no wonder. Yes, some of the crazy shit he did was fun to parody.
BUT, I really don't think he was abusing children (or animals, you sick fuck Solan ;) :p)
Yes, he was a disturbed individual - no wonder. Yes, some of the crazy shit he did was fun to parody.
BUT, I really don't think he was abusing children (or animals, you sick fuck Solan ;) :p)
Thistle
[QUOTE] [b]Costa86 wrote:[/b]
One child, for instance, described Michael's penis - and he described it correctly (apparently MJ had some indentifying marks/skin colour on his penis) - how else would this child have known what to describe except by having seen it? Added to this there are countless - literally - of stories, told by a variety of people, some of which stood to gain nothing, of Michael behaving in an abnormal way around children.[/QUOTE]
I haven't heard that before, but there are other explanations aside from the "obvious". It's no secret that he had kids stay over at Neverland. Whilst it doesn't sound the best, the child in question could have inadvertently caught glimpse as MJ was changing? Or maybe he's walked in on him in the lavvy? Or maybe they went swimming and his trunks fell off? ;)
One child, for instance, described Michael's penis - and he described it correctly (apparently MJ had some indentifying marks/skin colour on his penis) - how else would this child have known what to describe except by having seen it? Added to this there are countless - literally - of stories, told by a variety of people, some of which stood to gain nothing, of Michael behaving in an abnormal way around children.[/QUOTE]
I haven't heard that before, but there are other explanations aside from the "obvious". It's no secret that he had kids stay over at Neverland. Whilst it doesn't sound the best, the child in question could have inadvertently caught glimpse as MJ was changing? Or maybe he's walked in on him in the lavvy? Or maybe they went swimming and his trunks fell off? ;)
matt z
As for MJ I just said it seems nobody can say for sure.
The only things I scrutinize are comments from past friends ofhis who had nothing to gain talking about him.
Even those have suggestive leanings.
This first posthumous allegation was broadcast on entertainment tonight etc. Then corey Feldman went out and "tweeted" something to the effect of "why don't you leave it alone. Michael was good to you, helped you with your house etc. "
THAT bit sounds REALLY questionable. I don't have the exact quote.
Another was in the Bashir "documentary" when asked about the allegations Michael used selective somewhat evasive words. "I would never harm a child. I'd slit my wrists before I.... etc"
He said HARM although that wasn't the word used in the question.
Things like that.
Yeah. He's suspect. I always figured him for being an absolute loner with no peers. He WAS in fact alienated by fame (stranger in Moscow" being one of his best to sum it up)
So. When he befriended the odd family (there are a few examples including Deepak Chopra's family and kids) you can never know.
The Latoya Jackson statement has since been retracted as a lie her husband told her to say to sell a story (he'd also abused her for years and once tried to make her strip for strangers at a club)
Who knows. She wasn't a talented one and she's a fame monster and hard to believe.
He was the cash cow and the family squandered a ton of his money. Anyways. I wonder if any if the people involved will ever come out and substantially confirm or disprove those stories.
Anyways, I'd read it was a llama.
All I was saying was geez. After the uniquely twisted life he lived why aren't people grateful he didn't go apeshit and kill someone? .
Who the fark even knows.
The only things I scrutinize are comments from past friends ofhis who had nothing to gain talking about him.
Even those have suggestive leanings.
This first posthumous allegation was broadcast on entertainment tonight etc. Then corey Feldman went out and "tweeted" something to the effect of "why don't you leave it alone. Michael was good to you, helped you with your house etc. "
THAT bit sounds REALLY questionable. I don't have the exact quote.
Another was in the Bashir "documentary" when asked about the allegations Michael used selective somewhat evasive words. "I would never harm a child. I'd slit my wrists before I.... etc"
He said HARM although that wasn't the word used in the question.
Things like that.
Yeah. He's suspect. I always figured him for being an absolute loner with no peers. He WAS in fact alienated by fame (stranger in Moscow" being one of his best to sum it up)
So. When he befriended the odd family (there are a few examples including Deepak Chopra's family and kids) you can never know.
The Latoya Jackson statement has since been retracted as a lie her husband told her to say to sell a story (he'd also abused her for years and once tried to make her strip for strangers at a club)
Who knows. She wasn't a talented one and she's a fame monster and hard to believe.
He was the cash cow and the family squandered a ton of his money. Anyways. I wonder if any if the people involved will ever come out and substantially confirm or disprove those stories.
Anyways, I'd read it was a llama.
All I was saying was geez. After the uniquely twisted life he lived why aren't people grateful he didn't go apeshit and kill someone? .
Who the fark even knows.
winterspelt
When Jacko died the "abused children" did an interview claiming that Jacko never did anything to him or any other children, said it was all his father's idea and apologized to MJ's family... And still people try to punish the poor guy for something he didnt did.
A topic about Jacko's llama suddendly became an attack against MJ and the fake accusations against him...
A topic about Jacko's llama suddendly became an attack against MJ and the fake accusations against him...
Chief Mouse
Everyone who has interest in Jackson's life in his final years (2007-2009) should read this. It's written by 2 MJ's bodyguards. It's probably closest you can get to understanding him. Written exactly as these bodyguards saw it.
www.amazon.com/Remember-Time-Protecting-Michael-Jackson/dp/1602862508
www.amazon.com/Remember-Time-Protecting-Michael-Jackson/dp/1602862508
Oscar J
[QUOTE] [b]Ale Solan wrote:[/b]
Here you have some common sense, cocksucker.
[/QUOTE]
Why you seem like a nice guy...
Here you have some common sense, cocksucker.
[/QUOTE]
Why you seem like a nice guy...
master marathon runner
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Yeah, exactly, I call this fucker the"pumpkin headed nanny goat" - got to be the biggest, most witless baboon in history!
Ale friggin who?
Yeah, exactly, I call this fucker the"pumpkin headed nanny goat" - got to be the biggest, most witless baboon in history!
Ale friggin who?