Arnaldo "Ogre-" Silveira
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Queenman!!
Don't want to sound corny but wasn't the working title "THE WORKS" a gay bar in New York? Just like 'HEAVEN' which Freddie often visited? No wonder 'men' (man) are that much on the album. haha :-)
*goodco*
It is conceivable that some of the material was being presented, worked on, with the understanding that some tracks might end up on solo releases.
Could be wrong.
Too short of an album: yes. But didn't they reject 'I Go Crazy' because someone (sadly) felt it would have given the album too much of a heavy feel?
The Works bar in NYC
http://www.queerty.com/a-gay-bar-owners-last-lament-before-closing-the-doors-forever-20100629
oh, and regarding 'The Game': Something along the lines of 'Feeling Feeling' could have worked after AOBTD to give the album the length it should have had.
Could be wrong.
Too short of an album: yes. But didn't they reject 'I Go Crazy' because someone (sadly) felt it would have given the album too much of a heavy feel?
The Works bar in NYC
http://www.queerty.com/a-gay-bar-owners-last-lament-before-closing-the-doors-forever-20100629
oh, and regarding 'The Game': Something along the lines of 'Feeling Feeling' could have worked after AOBTD to give the album the length it should have had.
brunogorski
[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]
The track listing on that studio sheet is different from this cassette with an early working version of The Works:
(note that there's no ITTWWC yet)
1. Tear It Up
2. Whipping Boy (I Go Crazy)
3. I Want To Break Free
4. Machines (or Back To Humans)
5. Man On Fire
6. Take Another Little Piece Of My Heart (Let Me Live)
7. It's A Hard Life
8. Your Heart Again (Let Me In (Your Heart Again))
9. Man On The Prowl
10. Radio Caca (Radio Ga Ga)
11. Hammer To Fall
12. Keep Passing The Open Windows
13. Man Made Paradise[/QUOTE]
Jesus, this would be A GREAT tracklist! They should republish The Works with this setlist, and stop doing compilations. lol
The track listing on that studio sheet is different from this cassette with an early working version of The Works:
(note that there's no ITTWWC yet)
1. Tear It Up
2. Whipping Boy (I Go Crazy)
3. I Want To Break Free
4. Machines (or Back To Humans)
5. Man On Fire
6. Take Another Little Piece Of My Heart (Let Me Live)
7. It's A Hard Life
8. Your Heart Again (Let Me In (Your Heart Again))
9. Man On The Prowl
10. Radio Caca (Radio Ga Ga)
11. Hammer To Fall
12. Keep Passing The Open Windows
13. Man Made Paradise[/QUOTE]
Jesus, this would be A GREAT tracklist! They should republish The Works with this setlist, and stop doing compilations. lol
brunogorski
[QUOTE] [b]Arnaldo "Ogre-" Silveira wrote:[/b]
Nice one, Bruno! Boa!
Cheers,
Ogre-[/QUOTE]
Thank you / Obrigado :)
Nice one, Bruno! Boa!
Cheers,
Ogre-[/QUOTE]
Thank you / Obrigado :)
cmsdrums
[QUOTE] [b]brunogorski wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]
The track listing on that studio sheet is different from this cassette with an early working version of The Works:
(note that there's no ITTWWC yet)
1. Tear It Up
2. Whipping Boy (I Go Crazy)
3. I Want To Break Free
4. Machines (or Back To Humans)
5. Man On Fire
6. Take Another Little Piece Of My Heart (Let Me Live)
7. It's A Hard Life
8. Your Heart Again (Let Me In (Your Heart Again))
9. Man On The Prowl
10. Radio Caca (Radio Ga Ga)
11. Hammer To Fall
12. Keep Passing The Open Windows
13. Man Made Paradise[/QUOTE]
Jesus, this would be A GREAT tracklist! They should republish The Works with this setlist, and stop doing compilations. lol[/QUOTE]
AND get Brian to remix the whole album with the much improved drum sound and low end that is on LMIYHA!!
[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]
The track listing on that studio sheet is different from this cassette with an early working version of The Works:
(note that there's no ITTWWC yet)
1. Tear It Up
2. Whipping Boy (I Go Crazy)
3. I Want To Break Free
4. Machines (or Back To Humans)
5. Man On Fire
6. Take Another Little Piece Of My Heart (Let Me Live)
7. It's A Hard Life
8. Your Heart Again (Let Me In (Your Heart Again))
9. Man On The Prowl
10. Radio Caca (Radio Ga Ga)
11. Hammer To Fall
12. Keep Passing The Open Windows
13. Man Made Paradise[/QUOTE]
Jesus, this would be A GREAT tracklist! They should republish The Works with this setlist, and stop doing compilations. lol[/QUOTE]
AND get Brian to remix the whole album with the much improved drum sound and low end that is on LMIYHA!!
Sebastian
[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]
Also - interesting that they were still using 24 tracks in 1983.
32 track recording already existed in the late 70s.[/QUOTE]
Not just in 'late 70's,' but as early as 1974. There's an early '75 article about SHA where John explains they weren't interested in moving from 24 to 32 yet, as 24 were enough.
There could be a number of reasons, mostly compatibility. Loads of people still used Windows 95 long after Windows 98 had been released.
Also - interesting that they were still using 24 tracks in 1983.
32 track recording already existed in the late 70s.[/QUOTE]
Not just in 'late 70's,' but as early as 1974. There's an early '75 article about SHA where John explains they weren't interested in moving from 24 to 32 yet, as 24 were enough.
There could be a number of reasons, mostly compatibility. Loads of people still used Windows 95 long after Windows 98 had been released.
The Real Wizard
True - but a band like Queen was always trying to get the most they possibly could out of the studio, especially in the 70s. Bizarre that they stuck to 24 when 32 were available.
Oh, to be a fly on the wall during that discussion..
Oh, to be a fly on the wall during that discussion..
Sebastian
[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]
True - but a band like Queen was always trying to get the most they possibly could out of the studio, especially in the 70s.[/QUOTE]
But 'trying to get the most' doesn't necessarily mean using the very last gadgets just for the sake of it. The moment they were choosing studios (if it was their decision at all to begin with, which is debatable), there were way too many factors involved, which may have included sound (acoustics, reverb...), technology (de-essers, noise reduction, amount of tracks), equipment (mics, piano), even plain non-musical reasons (decoration, driving/walking distance from their flats, how much they liked the tea lady).
Queen's priority wasn't 'let's find the most state-of-the-art studio' as much as it was 'let's make the best record we possibly can.' If there was a 24-track studio which had much better conditions than a 32-track one, they'd choose the former. Mike Stone was there, as were others, to do the magic of bouncing. Keep in mind as well that, before automation, mixing had to be done live, so using more and more tracks would've made the whole thing unnecessarily difficult.
In hindsight it's a shame they didn't, for instance, keep a back-up of each and every one of the guitars on 'Best Friend,' but from a practical viewpoint, the cleverest solution was to bounce them once they were ready. They weren't, after all, anticipating that nearly 40 years later people would be interested in dissecting them, etc.
True - but a band like Queen was always trying to get the most they possibly could out of the studio, especially in the 70s.[/QUOTE]
But 'trying to get the most' doesn't necessarily mean using the very last gadgets just for the sake of it. The moment they were choosing studios (if it was their decision at all to begin with, which is debatable), there were way too many factors involved, which may have included sound (acoustics, reverb...), technology (de-essers, noise reduction, amount of tracks), equipment (mics, piano), even plain non-musical reasons (decoration, driving/walking distance from their flats, how much they liked the tea lady).
Queen's priority wasn't 'let's find the most state-of-the-art studio' as much as it was 'let's make the best record we possibly can.' If there was a 24-track studio which had much better conditions than a 32-track one, they'd choose the former. Mike Stone was there, as were others, to do the magic of bouncing. Keep in mind as well that, before automation, mixing had to be done live, so using more and more tracks would've made the whole thing unnecessarily difficult.
In hindsight it's a shame they didn't, for instance, keep a back-up of each and every one of the guitars on 'Best Friend,' but from a practical viewpoint, the cleverest solution was to bounce them once they were ready. They weren't, after all, anticipating that nearly 40 years later people would be interested in dissecting them, etc.
The Real Wizard
[QUOTE] [b]Sebastian wrote:[/b]
In hindsight it's a shame they didn't, for instance, keep a back-up of each and every one of the guitars on 'Best Friend,' but from a practical viewpoint, the cleverest solution was to bounce them once they were ready.[/QUOTE]
Indeed. And this way Brian got to maintain complete creative control over his guitars.
Excellent post, Seb.
In hindsight it's a shame they didn't, for instance, keep a back-up of each and every one of the guitars on 'Best Friend,' but from a practical viewpoint, the cleverest solution was to bounce them once they were ready.[/QUOTE]
Indeed. And this way Brian got to maintain complete creative control over his guitars.
Excellent post, Seb.