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[QUOTE] [b]tomchristie22 wrote:[/b]

[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]
Brian played around with tape speed from day one to the end, from the guitar orchestras in Son And Daughter to the overall playback of No-One But You.
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I didn't know that about No-One But You - how much is it altered by? I'd like to listen to it at the original pitch and tempo.[/QUOTE]
Maybe a quarter tone?

As always, Bri's vocal may be sped up or he recorded it to the pitched up version..

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Also, when on earth does Roger sing lead vocals on this song? Does he actually sing them at all? Because I've read that he sings the second verse, but I swear it's Freddie the whole way through.[/QUOTE]
I think it's both of them in the second verse ?
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[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]
GENIUS. You are one of a handful of people in the world who has this stuff figured out. Bloody well done.

There's a similar video of the original studio tapes of Page layering the guitars in the middle of Ten Years Gone. But you've actually gone through the trouble to dissect it all and replicated it to complete perfection.

You should be writing a column in the top guitar magazines about achieving Brian's studio sound.

Contact them. Seriously. Nobody has done it. You're the guy.
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Wow!!!
That's some very high praise. Thanks a lot.
I do these pieces for my own sense of achievement and recording replication. I also want to do everything - vox, drums etc etc....
I post them up to offer some help to others so that they too can play them. I don't enter into the whole You tube offering any monies etc. I just do it to help cause I know what it's like wanting to learn something - and I think the current medium allows quicker learning than endless hours reading books or trying to suss it all out.(Most of the official transcribed stuff I've seen also has glaring errors re: notes etc.)

I want to do all the massive orchestrations and breakdowns cause it's a bloody hard task but....I guess I'm a sucker for punishment?? I do continue to work on loads of stuff and there are many more video lessons in the offing.

I do appreciate your kind words. thanks again!!

ps: I just don't understand how many more people get so many hits?? Maybe I should type "sexy girl guitarist plays Queen"??
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[QUOTE] [b]ludwigs wrote:[/b]

[QUOTE] [b]Mr.QueenFan wrote:[/b]

This is all very interesting.
What i do know about the NOTW sessions is that Brian admited to speeding up the tape to the orchestrated guitar solo of "All dead, all dead" to achieve the right pitch - that was out of his guitar fret board. Maybe he experimented that on other songs as well.

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Brian did 'pitch up' some of the guitar voices by an octave. This adds that 'organ' effect to the orchestrations.

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Here you can see/hear from my recording (transcription of the piece) how this effect added to the existing normally-pitched section:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odPPi6tj_F0
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You know, i don´t usually get excited when fans play Brian May, but i have to tell you, you achieved something very special here. This surprassed all expectations i might have. Wonderful playing, and you really achieved THE Brian May tone on this song.
You have everything a musician needs to succeed - Passion, and a good set of hears!

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It´s interesting that you mention the 'organ' effect, because i always thought that Brian was trying to achieve the "Orchestra" effect (i.e. violins playing together), but the organ effect is closer to what he achieved.

One of the best orchastrations made by Brian. Thanks for you video.
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[QUOTE] [b]ludwigs wrote:[/b]

ps: I just don't understand how many more people get so many hits?? Maybe I should type "sexy girl guitarist plays Queen"??

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Yup, you're on the right track.

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As for Roger singing 'lead' on SHA, he does the odd bits here and there (e.g., '-ticulate'), but whether that constitutes proper 'lead' vocal is open to debate.
John hated Hot Space. Frederick's favourite singer was not Paul Rodgers. Roger didn't compose 'Innuendo.' 'Bohemian Rhapsody' hasn't got 180 vocal overdubs.
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Fair enough. I'd describe any interjection like that as a lead vocal, if they are indeed singing lead for that moment. e.g. Roger's line in The March of the Black Queen. Of course, Freddie's still the lead vocalist for the song as a whole.
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It's indeed not a black and white topic... what do you think about The Edge's vocals on 'Sunday Bloody Sunday'? Or Roger's on the studio version of 'Action'?
John hated Hot Space. Frederick's favourite singer was not Paul Rodgers. Roger didn't compose 'Innuendo.' 'Bohemian Rhapsody' hasn't got 180 vocal overdubs.
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I suppose in cases where it's more evenly split, I'd be inclined to just call it a shared lead vocal. Same for Freddie and David Bowie on Under Pressure.
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I've been giving that some thought lately... in art music (e.g., classical, baroque), the solo-tutti distinction tends to be used; in popular music (rock, pop, blues...) categories tend to be lead/backing.

'Life Is Real' and 'Love of My Life' are easy cases, as Freddie's 'main' part is both a lead vocal and a soloist, and his choir can be labelled both backing vocals and tutti (since they're multi-tracked).

Other cases are a bit stranger ... on 'Action This Day' (studio version), Freddie's the only one singing 'solo'. Every time Roger sings, he's 'tutti' (multi-part and multi-tracked). If we apply the 'art' labelling, Freddie's singing the (tenor) solo part and Roger's doing an ATB choir.

'Play the Game' is interesting: most of the verses constitute both a lead vocal and a soloist ... even when he's harmonised (it can count as solo + tutti, as the harmonies are multi-tracked). But what about the middle-eight? 'My game of love has just begun' is double-tracked, and then 'love runs from my head down to my toes' (are those the right lyrics? I'm typing by memory) is a multi-part multi-tracked 'tutti'. If we count the middle part as the 'lead', then we could say that both Roger and Brian are possibly co-lead vocalists on the song, since for that particular line they're probably singing every part with Fred... in fact, even Andy Gibb could be (ghost) singing there!

Last but not least, 'Sleeping on the Sidewalk': Brian's 'lead' is also clearly a 'solo', but when he's harmonised, those 'backing vocals' are single-tracked. Therefore, we could count him as lead + backing vocalist on the one hand and as a three-part soloist (TTB) on the other.
John hated Hot Space. Frederick's favourite singer was not Paul Rodgers. Roger didn't compose 'Innuendo.' 'Bohemian Rhapsody' hasn't got 180 vocal overdubs.
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Sebastian - excellent as always.

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lol completely gone off the subject now
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Very interesting. I do enjoy your depth analysis of vocal stuff.

Tutti Frutti, as performed on the Magic tour, is tutti almost for its entirety! Fitting.
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Probably the heart of the matter relies on whether there could be backing vocals *without* a lead one. IMO, yes, from single-part single-tracked (e.g., 'turn around' from the original Total Eclipse of the Heart, just to name a non-Queen case) to multi-part multi-tracked (e.g., 'and then he sang to her' from 'The Golden Boy'). Then again, that's open to debate...

Also ... harmonies and backing vocals aren't necessarily the same, although the concepts often overlap and a lot of people use them interchangeably, which still doesn't mean they're right...
John hated Hot Space. Frederick's favourite singer was not Paul Rodgers. Roger didn't compose 'Innuendo.' 'Bohemian Rhapsody' hasn't got 180 vocal overdubs.
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[QUOTE] [b]Sebastian wrote:[/b]


Other cases are a bit stranger ... on 'Action This Day' (studio version), Freddie's the only one singing 'solo'. Every time Roger sings, he's 'tutti' (multi-part and multi-tracked). If we apply the 'art' labelling, Freddie's singing the (tenor) solo part and Roger's doing an ATB choir.

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Then there's the live versions......particularly the one on the 2011 Hot Space 'bonus ep'.......that's pretty much alternating lead vocals by Freddie and Roger.............(I always enjoy hearing Roger sing in a Queen show....great voice)
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Yeah, obviously, live versions are a different story. Also for other songs... for instance, Roger's the one who's actually singing lead on the WAtC choruses most of the time. Fred switches to a lower harmony (top voice doesn't necessarily equate lead, but on that particular arrangement, it did).
John hated Hot Space. Frederick's favourite singer was not Paul Rodgers. Roger didn't compose 'Innuendo.' 'Bohemian Rhapsody' hasn't got 180 vocal overdubs.