Bumping this topic, As far as I'm aware he only used it in an emergency when his guitar was elsewhere just on a small snippet not a 'few songs' but happy to be proved wrong if someone knows the full story?
Fireplace · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Togg wrote:[/b]
Bumping this topic, As far as I'm aware he only used it in an emergency when his guitar was elsewhere just on a small snippet not a 'few songs' but happy to be proved wrong if someone knows the full story?[/QUOTE]
Can't remember where I got it from, but I read that the Firebird was used on one of the rhythm tracks on Hammer To Fall. Since the other track is definitely the Red Special I suppose that means he used them side by side and the Firebird was used for contrast. If you listen to the Rock Band-stems it's relatively easy to identify.
Sebastian · Member since
The owner of the guitar, Ben Fenner, allegedly said he could hear it on 'Tear It Up' as well.
Sebastian · Member since
The owner of the guitar, Ben Fenner, allegedly said he could hear it on 'Tear It Up' as well.
Biggus Dickus · Member since
On the Headbanger's Mix of Hammer To Fall you can clearly hear two different guitar tones. Is that the other guitar?
Togg · Member since
Interesting, if you listen to most Queen guitar only tracks you hear obviously multiple layers of guitar which alway fascinate me, I wonder if he was just looking for a 'different' tone or whether there was an issue with the RS, I know with Hero it was in another country at the time (I think) so part of that is another guitar
cmsdrums · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Biggus Dickus wrote:[/b]
On the Headbanger's Mix of Hammer To Fall you can clearly hear two different guitar tones. Is that the other guitar?[/QUOTE]
On that extended mix you can clearly hear a change in the whole sound of the track when the extended section comes in towards the end, and then the tone etc ...drops back to 'normal' when it reverts back to the usual mix (for example, the drums become a little sharper and more 'top end-y' in the extended section).
I can only assume (and this is just educated guesswork) they recorded the track in the extended length format, and then created a mix. This was then edited to have the extended piece cut out, and the remaining album mix was tweaked mix-wise and mastered. A while later it was decided that HTF would be a single and they wanted a 12" mix, but rather than go back to the original 'complete' mix they took the album version and re-insterted the original cut, and couldn't quite match up the frequencies etc in a new master.
Togg · Member since
To me the most un RS moment is at 1.40 here where he is picking the guitar, I'd say that sound more like a 'normal' guitar and not the RS, the rest of the mix sounds to me so close to the RS I can't see why they bother with another guitar if that's what they wanted it to sound like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJ1wWvIzYVw
Vocal harmony · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Togg wrote:[/b]
" the rest of the mix sounds to me so close to the RS I can't see why they bother with another guitar if that's what they wanted it to sound like
Unless those parts were recorded separate to the the rest and the RS wasn't to hand
Fireplace · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Togg wrote:[/b]
Interesting, if you listen to most Queen guitar only tracks you hear obviously multiple layers of guitar which alway fascinate me, I wonder if he was just looking for a 'different' tone or whether there was an issue with the RS, I know with Hero it was in another country at the time (I think) so part of that is another guitar[/QUOTE]
In the case of "Bens guitar" I clearly remember Brian stating that it was used to obtain some contrast with the Red Special. It is actually not that hard to identify, it sounds clearer, colder and tighter than the RS, but still very different from the RS out-of-phase pick ups. To my ears it's one of Brian's less pleasing guitar sounds.
