Flash is a curious album, almost short changing us as it only uses brief parts of the orchestral soundtrack (which is amazing). Aside from the sometimes problematic dialogue use I love it and totally agree with the OP. Their best songs in the 80s IMO were those rock songs with synth, most notably Was It All Worth Is, Princes Of The Universe etc.[/QUOTE]
Surely the dialogue is tongue in cheek! It's so bad,it has to be, doesn't it? ! In any case,I think the way Queen incorporated it into their soundtrack is really quite brilliant. "Do you Ming the Merciless, take this earthing Dale Arden to be your empress of the hour? " ....lol!
ludwigs · Member since
64.76548% (recurring 4) says that they didn't use synths as such!
Meanwhile I've managed to pick some fly shit out of some black pepper!
fras444 · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Sebastian wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]fras444 wrote:[/b]
Didn't all pre "The Game" albums contain.... in sometimes a well written sentence... such as "absolutely no synths were used......"[/QUOTE]
No, they didn't. Five of them did (roughly 71.43%), but not all of them.[/QUOTE]
You are a fucken good c@#t Sebastian haha.. Kiwis have some very colorful ways of stringing sentences and complementing one another... and in regards to what I said... It's a kiwi way of complimenting someone who is on to it and knows his shit...! I checked my collection and yip...!! The no synths stopped after News of the World!!
fras444 · Member since
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matt z wrote
I don't think the OP meant a flash Gordon themed original story teller album. The op meant a follow up to the game perhaps tinged with heavy synths
Yeah man the post is more in regards to Queen having that Synth sound in the background/leaning towards a replacement to the piano and not to the full extend that HS took Queen which ultimately almost replaced all four of them in regards to playing their respective instruments... synth bass lines etc... Van Halen/whitesnake/rainbow sounding...?
I remember reading a quote from Freddie sometime after the ADATR release or just before the pending release of NOTW.. He mentioned that Brian has done almost every bloody thing he could do with that bloody guitar and our next album will be a little bit more simple/stripped down.... And NOTW was exactly that..
It seemed that Queen had matured as a band with that album albeit in their trademark tongue in check attitude with the lack of multi guitar/vocal harmony and a more stripped down approach. Then came Jazz and The Game and it sound like that Queen were battling between being a maturing band singing about more mature topics and being the eccentric over the top youthful band who pushed the boundary's and singing about anything as in Jazz... Then came from out of nowhere, this album... Flash.. and not long after The more serious The Game...
It would have sounded like a breath of fresh air for Queen fans alike that lived through that period.. It really sounded like a very youthful and full of energy band again! The two vocal songs sound so youthful and almost reminiscent of SSOR from Queen II esp The Hero.. the first 20 seconds sound so orgasmic esp Brian's guitar.. much like SSOR albeit longer to kick in to the first lyric...
I think after the success of ABTD.. It was written in the stars that Queen would eventuate into producing what would become HS.. But it would have been interesting to see what would have happened if Queen had written a full 'Flash The Hero" sounding style album maybe in a loose concept way that Queen II was...
Something seriously fell apart leading into and during the writing of HS.. Such as Johns meltdown when Brian wanted to put a guitar solo on backchat and Brian recording that tear it up solo drunk... and the not so keen approach to Freddie's want in producing a dance/disco inspired album and the just in general, the personal matters that they were going through at the time...
One wonders though.. If Queen would have been more productive in the 80s if they had gone in the other direction and produced a Flash sounding album... and not gone through the difficulties and trials that HS created... Then again, material from The Works and Magic would possibly not have been...?
fras444 · Member since
goodco wrote
Guess it was something I'd always assumed to have been stated, and would have failed miserably on in a trivia contest.
Sebastian wrote
The whole 'no synths' thing was certainly blown out of proportion by the public and the media. Queen were not against synths the same way they were not against trumpets (still, a significant part of their recorded output has no trumpets whatsoever).
Yeah man I think too in away Queen just let everyone run with it/good publicity for the band you know.. Lot's of fans were like "yeah our band is hardcore and will never bow down to computers etc etc and make music purely with their instruments that they have.... Look what it says on the cover...?! no synths....!!!"
A good example of people not listening to you.....
I remember reading somewhere also that Brian also mentioned along with playing around with synths in the very early years, that the sounds were so basic at the time. Queen had no real fitting into what music they were making at the time... Also I remember Brian saying that he really wanted to produce that music with his guitar and give... his songs at least.. That personal touch in which that he felt could never be reflected through synths... or what I can remember anyway...?
fras444 · Member since
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dysan wrote
Flash is a curious album, almost short changing us as it only uses brief parts of the orchestral soundtrack (which is amazing). Aside from the sometimes problematic dialogue use I love it and totally agree with the OP. Their best songs in the 80s IMO were those rock songs with synth, most notably Was It All Worth Is, Princes Of The Universe etc
Yeah man those songs are great examples of using synths in a heavy rock sense....!! esp Was it all worth it and the complex arrangement in All god's people and also in Innuendo is another good example too. Yeah I guess what I meant in regards to this post... What would have a follow up album sounded like after flash when the guys were still youthful as in a loose term 30-36 ish years old
Sebastian · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]
Yes, but the overwhelming majority of them were.[/QUOTE]
No, not the overwhelming majority. 'Many' is the correct word for that case, as there were many guitar-generated effects but also many non-guitar-generated effects.
[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]
In a nutshell, the "no synthesizers" slogan was their way of telling people it's just the four of them, particularly guitars layered upon guitars.[/QUOTE]
A lot of those sounds were guitars layered upon guitars, but not all and not most.
[QUOTE] [b]Mr.QueenFan wrote:[/b]
In a nutshell, Brian wanted to use the guitar instead of synths[/QUOTE]
Not just Brian, but also the 75% of the band that were not Brian.
[QUOTE] [b]Mr.QueenFan wrote:[/b]
after that it was Brian just trying to create with his guitar all the sounds he used to hear in his head when he was a kid (with the Deacy amp).
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But a lot of those sounds were not Brian and not guitars, just the same way a lot of those sounds were.
dysan · Member since
"Surely the dialogue is tongue in cheek! It's so bad,it has to be, doesn't it? ! In any case,I think the way Queen incorporated it into their soundtrack is really quite brilliant. "Do you Ming the Merciless, take this earthing Dale Arden to be your empress of the hour? " ....lol!"
