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I know that all that 33 tracks were not finished. But there were more than demos. The version that we all know about "I Guess We Are Falling Out", its not the last version of it. Its an early version.
When Brian came to Argentina he said that Freddie left 8 tracks for the last sessions (MIH). How many really get to Made in Heaven?
Of course there are not tons of unreleased finished tracks. But i´m more that sure that they might do another studio album.
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yes it would nice to assume there are left over tracks from all the studio albums, and many of these would be in Brian, Johns and Rogers personal home recording collections.
Queen releasing double studio albums just would not be right and not a very commercial thing to do.
Queen wanted the fans to be hungry for the albums so more than likely a single album was just enough to tease the most ardent Queen fan!
"Time is but a paper moon"
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but this ^^^ is not a reason to NOT make a double. your statement
[QUOTE] [b]gerry wrote:[/b]Queen wanted the fans to be hungry for the albums so more than likely a single album was just enough to tease the most ardent Queen fan![/QUOTE]is only conjecture and nothing more, and by consequence no more accurate than someone saying they didn't release a double because
1] "they got bored with the recording process and wanted to leave the studio"
or
2] "they hated each other's gut after six months locked up together writing and recording"
or
3] "the remaining tracks simply weren't interesting enough to all four of them to continue working on"
the truth is probably a combination of all three. and in all likelihood mainly "3" - as this is backed up by the number of "queen tracks" that ended up on solo projects - ie only one of them wanted to keep the tracks

[QUOTE] [b]gerry wrote:[/b]Queen releasing double studio albums just would not be right and not a very commercial thing to do.![/QUOTE]have to disagree with this statement 100%. sometimes you need to think before making these kind of globalised statements. look at the sales figures below and tell me there was no market for a queen double

Physical Graffiti - 600,000 (UK), 8,000,000 (USA)
Goodbye Yellow Brick Road - 350,000 (UK) 8,000,000 (USA)
All Things Must Pass (i know it's a triple) - 300,000 (UK), 6,000,000 (USA)
Out Of The Blue - 300,000 (UK), 1,000,000 (USA)
The Wall - 1,000,000 (UK), 23,000,000 (USA)
The Beatles (white album) - 300,000 (UK), 9,500,000 (USA)

by comparison queen's biggest selling original studio album is The Game - 300,000 (UK), 4,000,000 (USA)
add to that the fact that ALL of the above doubles compare favourably with those artists biggest selling works, and you must see that there is nothing financially or business negative about a double album if the material is good and it's in the right point in a band's career.

ps - YOU do realise that "ardent" fans would buy almost anything - someone who is ardent is devoted to almost anything produced - so in theory they'd lap up anything available
go deo na hÉireann The best QZ epoch: BG17-00 (Before Gerry 1996-2013)
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You are forgetting i am an ardent Queen fan and i do not buy anything these days, because sadly its about making money not music anymore.
Queen Forever is proof of this, and quite frankly i would not pay £15.99 just because it has i new song and 2 songs re-worked! Again Brian and Roger have told lies to the fans to make them buy this limp collection.
Queen were never a double album band so writing down all your sales figures is a waste of time, all groups are different and so you do not have an argument here.
Live Killers was a double album but flopped as far as the fans were concerned!
"Time is but a paper moon"
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[QUOTE] [b]gerry wrote:[/b]

You are forgetting i am an ardent Queen fan and i do not buy anything these days, because sadly its about making money not music anymore.
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No, you're an ardent fan of the original lineup - you not buying recent stuff doesn't prove anything. I'm sure you still buy releases that pertain to 1971-1991. Or are you going to claim you didn't buy the Rainbow?
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It's been documented that Queen worked on Heaven For Everyone and Love Making Love during the Magic sessions. Just saying
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[QUOTE] [b]gerry wrote:[/b]You are forgetting i am an ardent Queen fan and i do not buy anything these days, because sadly its about making money not music anymore.![/QUOTE]no you're not. you're and "ardent queen 1971-1991 fan" - there's a huge difference ...as you've not been a fan of anything since 1991.

[QUOTE] [b]gerry wrote:[/b]Queen were never a double album band so writing down all your sales figures is a waste of time, all groups are different and so you do not have an argument here.[/QUOTE]more crap? you always manage to outdo your own stupidity don't you? the sales figures prove that bands YOU SAY were smaller than queen managed to have double-albums that outsold queen's most successful original album. that is proof that the double album concept has no detriment to sales - quality is what matters.
one other thing:
ELO - out of the blue - running time 75:43
Zep - physical graffiti - 82:15
elton - GYBR - 76:12
pink floyd - the wall -
queen - made in heaven - 87:49
spot the difference? the last one is the only single album

[QUOTE] [b]gerry wrote:[/b]Live Killers was a double album but flopped as far as the fans were concerned![/QUOTE]did it really? well enough fans bought LKs didn't they?
Live Killers - UK sales 380,000 / USA sales - 2,500,000 - highest UK chart position no3.
Hot Space - UK 100,000 / USA 500,000 - highest Uk position no4
^^^ the album you love so much didn't perform as well as the live album you don't like and claim flopped with the fans.
before you spout garbage in future, try checking the actual facts
you cannot speak for the 280,000 UK fans that bought LK that fucked Hot Space off...and certainly not with the 2,000,000 USA fans who bought LK instead of Hotspace.

you're either playing very clever mind games on this site, or you are the most moronic imbecile to ever sit in front of a keyboard. i'm certain it's the latter.
go deo na hÉireann The best QZ epoch: BG17-00 (Before Gerry 1996-2013)
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Brenski: why do you think you are always right and everybody else is wrong?
Live Killers was recieved by disappointed fans regardless of your sales figures,
and you are very petty just because Live Killers reached no3 in the charts and Hot Space no4
so what?
your the one who yet again has insulted me, so i think you need to appologise instead of hiding behind your comp
and playing the petulant child that you are.
Once again i will say my opinions are personal and if you do not like them, think about what folk on here think about yours.
I do not tolerate bullies in any shape or form, so pack it in and grow up matey.
"Time is but a paper moon"
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you are an idiot. ^^^ and clearly one who's completely unable to read and comprehend what you are seing on your computer screen.
FYI - i didn't just refer to chart positions - i quoted ACTUAL SALES FIGURES
Live Killers - which you globally generalised (again) by saying:
[QUOTE] [b]gerry wrote:[/b]Live Killers was a double album but flopped as far as the fans were concerned![/QUOTE]
was NOT a flop with fans - it sold as much as at least half of queen's other studio albums. by your reckoning that makes half of queen's albums "flops with fans" - don't you see your logic is flawed?
secondly, YOU can speak for yourself alone - unless YOU produce ACTUAL FACTS to back up your theories. I produced facts to back up what i said...now where's YOUR PROOF that Live Killers flopped with fans?

you say:
[QUOTE] [b]gerry wrote:[/b]Once again i will say my opinions are personal and if you do not like them, think about what folk on here think about yours.[/QUOTE]
but the quote above re "LK being a flop" is not an opinion - YOU are making a statement. nowhere do you say "i think" or "in my opinion". if it's ONLY YOUR opinion .try saying so
go deo na hÉireann The best QZ epoch: BG17-00 (Before Gerry 1996-2013)
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Tut tut tut you are one angry fucker!
i really pity you, and how dare you shout at me with capital letters may i add!
"Live Killers" was a disappointment with the fans because of how it sounded and produced,
even Roger Taylor said this in many interviews, so stick that up your arse Brenski.
I do not give a toss what you think, because you are one arrogant sick mother fucker!
Try learning to be well mannered and not with your head up your arse.
"Time is but a paper moon"
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[QUOTE] [b]MercurialFreddie wrote:[/b]

It's amazing how everybody (incl. myself) pretends to be Queen Archivist when it comes to discussion just like this thread. Only he knows for sure what was discarded and what live and studio unreleased material is in their archives.
Everything else is pure speculation and rumours.

Claiming that there doesn't exist a single track that wasn't released is as reasonable as claiming that there are tons and tons of unreleased material. We only got officially video list of the recorded gigs, provided by Queen Archivist. And still, that list is today partially reliable as from the moment it was posted here, they (QPL) found more tapes.

@aion: Wasn't You're the Only One released on FM solo box a demo from AKOM sessions ? If so, then maybe there are more demos from that session which - bearing in mind recent invitation for Orbit to work on more unreleased material - may see the light of the day.

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Time and time again people on this board get their hopes up for unreleased songs, but it's all just wishful thinking. We do know Queen's method of working and to put it bluntly, it was to release albums with as little effort as possible (as far as the amount of songs goes - obviously the songs that they did finalize were meticulously produced). They never released non-album singles, they didn't bother to make non-album B-side tracks. In the 80s their albums had only 9 or 10 songs though they could have spent as much time in the studio as they wanted. Greg Brooks surely knows that the archives are very thin.
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[QUOTE] [b]gerry wrote:[/b]

Tut tut tut you are one angry fucker!
i really pity you, and how dare you shout at me with capital letters may i add!
"Live Killers" was a disappointment with the fans because of how it sounded and produced,
even Roger Taylor said this in many interviews, so stick that up your arse Brenski.
I do not give a toss what you think, because you are one arrogant sick mother fucker!
Try learning to be well mannered and not with your head up your arse.[/QUOTE]
you DO realise that CAPS are also used in the typewritten word for emphasis..there is NO shouting or rudeness in my last post.
Gerry try and understand that regardless of what ANY INDIVIDUAL says - Roger Taylor, Gerry or even Angela Merkel - it is still only the opinion of ONE PERSON. that does not constitute EVERYONE. an album almost goes platinum in the Uk and double platinum in the USA is NOT a flop. if it were, what would that make YOUR beloved Hot Space - which only sold a fifth as many copies...and Freddie felt the need to apologise for at Milton Keynes?
You do realise now that you've got so fekkin ridiculously stupid on here that if YOU said that the sky was Blue and the grass was Green...everyone on Qzone would still feel compelled to look outside to check for sure.

this was a really interesting conversation until YOU ruined it again by wading in and spouting your usual utter shacts.
go deo na hÉireann The best QZ epoch: BG17-00 (Before Gerry 1996-2013)
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Ah no rudeness eh? so why did you call me these names for then below:
Brenski wrote:
"you're either playing very clever mind games on this site, or you are the most moronic imbecile to ever sit in front of a keyboard. i'm certain it's the latter"

Well that is the just of it, its nothing i say, you just have something personal against me,
I sometimes wonder why i waste my time replying back to your attention seeking replies.
oh yes your just winding me up i had forgotten that.
lets just leave things here yeah, and you can go and jog on and have a pop at someone else.
So your not content to seriously listen to what Roger says about Live Killers but your own opinion is more worthy yeah? priceless and as per you are always right master Brenski.
"Time is but a paper moon"
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"Jerry" - by John Mellancamp (absolutely spot on)

Jerry's yelling at the man in the moon
He's right outside of my window
He acts like a madman from time to time
I hope he brings it to a crescendo soon

Jerry's yelling at the man in the moon
Jerry's yelling at the man in the moon

Jerry rides his skateboard down the street
He's thirty-seven years old with six children
He sees the world through a ten year old boy's eyes
He doesn't even notice that it's raining outside

Jerry's yelling at the man in the moon
Jerry's yelling at the man in the moon

But sometimes he cries
He wants me to console him
But I know that he's lying
About everything he's told me

Man in the moon
Man in the moon

Jerry's yelling at the man in the moon
Says, he's prepared to suffer the consequences
What is his penalty for his immaturity?
Will he be cast into eternal darkness?

Jerry's yelling at the man in the moon
Jerry's yelling at the man in the moon
Jerry's yelling at the man in the moon

Jerry's yelling at the man in the moon
Jerry's yelling at the man in the moon
Jerry's yelling at the man in the moon

Man in the moon
Man in the moon
Man in the moon
Man in the moon
go deo na hÉireann The best QZ epoch: BG17-00 (Before Gerry 1996-2013)
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LIVE KILLERS INSPIRED ME TO PLAY MUSIC! !!!

I'M AN ARDENT SUPPORTER OF BRENSKI and will state for the record that their playful spirit was INVALUABLE in considering the future releases from QPL.


Beautiful. Just beautiful. .

Acknowledge where you came from! It's important! !!
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