Brian: Show with Adam Lambert is equal to Freddie Mercury

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The King Of Rhye 14 December 2014 11:45 · Member since August 2004

Mr.Mouth wrote:

John needs to come up private or publici..
His words would majke impact on Queen fan(us)
And I hope he Walsh that stupid deluded mind od Brian!!
Disgrace for Freddies legacy is Lambert and all stuff they are doing for new ignorant fans!!
Shame shame shame ...
Fcuk you Brian for that statemants!!!
Please John rise and say something,you were real Freddies friend and now that is clear and true.

Do you really thing John is going to make a public statement on what he thinks of Adam Lambert? Or anything else for that matter? Watch one of their shows and tell me how they're being disrespectful to Freddie when Adam and both keep praising him.......

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Sheer Brass Neck 14 December 2014 12:02 · Member since May 2008

winterspelt wrote:

Now, I think Brian's statement should be read something like this:

"Our show with Adam Lambert is equal to anything we did with Freddie Mercury because we sound like a full band and we can play whatever we want without me pretending to be Paul Kossoff. Adam can sing songs that Paul could never sing because it would be ridiculous to have Paul singing songs like Killer Queen. Adam made us feel as good as if we were in 1980 not because Adam is exactly the same as Freddie but because our music's spirit is very much the same as in was in the past"

Yes, but that wasn't what he said. Brian is delusional if he thinks that AL is connecting with the audience the way Freddie did. Again, great voice, but not a rock singer. That doesn't disparage him, he just doesn't have the grit to sing rock music.

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gerry 14 December 2014 12:49 · Member since February 2009

Mr. Mouth & Sheer brass neck: i totally agree with your comments, and yes it would be great for Deacy to rise and say a few home truths to the crazy Dr May.
Brian has back stabbed our lovely Freddie, and it just upsets me so much.
On "You Tube" there is a recording of Brian & Freddie having a heated row, and Brian is heard saying to Freddie
"oh your so fucking perfect" so i think Brian secretly hated Freddie at times.
Brian has took over Queen with his limp decisions and poor Roger does not have a look in these days.
I never knew Brian could be as nasty as he has been lately.
i thought he was a true gentleman, how silly was i.

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winterspelt 14 December 2014 14:50 · Member since May 2007

double post

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winterspelt 14 December 2014 14:50 · Member since May 2007

coops wrote:
How many of the songs they perform did Lambert write?

Last time I checked, Freddie never wrote any of the songs in the rock and roll medley, does that fact change anything? No.
Does the fact that Lambert didnt wrote any of his songs in the Q+AL tour change anything? No.

Sheer Brass Neck wrote:
Right, but he didn't say that (...)

No, he didnt, but he didnt said any of the things previously posted by non Q+AL fans either.
Speculation, just like the fat bottomed girls, make the rockin' world go round!

Sheer Brass Neck wrote:
Eddie Van Halen is 100 times the guitarist that Brian May is, but he'd be a shitty replacement for Queen

You may be right, in fact that is something I have been thinking for lots of years: Who could be Brian's replacement if he (and not Freddie) were dead. Perhaps we could have something like Queen+ Steve Vai, who knows? In your Van Helen scenario, first VH would have to agree (very unlikely) and then work things in a way he could be himself and keep the spirit of the song, in any way, Adam, just like Steve Morse in Deep Purple, make the rest of the band have a good time. Fans may agree or not, but after 20 years, DP is still alive and kicking, despite some angry fans. Just like Q+AL currently.

Sheer Brass Neck wrote:
Brian is delusional if he thinks that AL is connecting with the audience the way Freddie did. Again, great voice, but not a rock singer. That doesn't disparage him, he just doesn't have the grit to sing rock music.

But he (Adam) doesnt need to connect with the audience THE WAY Freddie did because he's not Freddie. He have another way to connect with the audience. Many people may not like it but that's a very different subject.
And no, he is not a rock singer, but I dont see that as an issue. Freddie wasnt an Opera singer and he did a great job. Of course, if you ask a Mario Lanza fan what do he think of Freddie singing opera, you wont have a possitive reaction. Ask a "Pap" Baxter fan what do they think of Somebody to love and you will hear exactly the same thing you wrote. Does that makes Freddie "unworthy"?

gerry wrote:

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Has he forgotten about playing in front of an audience in Rio in which Freddie had the audience of 250.000 adoring fans eating out of the palm of his hand?

Im sure he havent, but he havent remember that he had 300000 fans in Ukraine with PR and another 300000 with Adam.

Mr.Mouth wrote:

John needs to come up private or publici..
His words would majke impact on Queen fan(us)

John no longer cares about Queen, in fact I think he no longer care about Queen royalties or even to be recognized as an amazing musician, he lives happy in his own world, why do people think he "must" or "need" to be involved again in Queen? Leave the guy alone! Some people are born that way and dont want to be stars or be everywhere on the media.

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Mr.Mouth 14 December 2014 16:24 · Member since September 2014

winterspelt wrote:

coops wrote:
How many of the songs they perform did Lambert write?

Last time I checked, Freddie never wrote any of the songs in the rock and roll medley, does that fact change anything? No.
Does the fact that Lambert didnt wrote any of his songs in the Q+AL tour change anything? No.

Sheer Brass Neck wrote:
Right, but he didn't say that (...)

winterspelt thats a long long post ..I do agree with you ,try to understand my po int od view..
Brian needs to get a grip on his statemants. Cos we all know deep inside that Queen will be remembered allways because of Freddie Mercury epicness. Not for Adam Lambert. He just doesnt fit as he fit ih to bank account these days.
Sorry for my words Im just angry on Brian statemants.
Sooo disrispectfull.
Now I see why John want have any connection with him or Roger.
X factor was a last drop for me.

No, he didnt, but he didnt said any of the things previously posted by non Q+AL fans either.
Speculation, just like the fat bottomed girls, make the rockin' world go round!

Sheer Brass Neck wrote:
Eddie Van Halen is 100 times the guitarist that Brian May is, but he'd be a shitty replacement for Queen

You may be right, in fact that is something I have been thinking for lots of years: Who could be Brian's replacement if he (and not Freddie) were dead. Perhaps we could have something like Queen+ Steve Vai, who knows? In your Van Helen scenario, first VH would have to agree (very unlikely) and then work things in a way he could be himself and keep the spirit of the song, in any way, Adam, just like Steve Morse in Deep Purple, make the rest of the band have a good time. Fans may agree or not, but after 20 years, DP is still alive and kicking, despite some angry fans. Just like Q+AL currently.

Sheer Brass Neck wrote:
Brian is delusional if he thinks that AL is connecting with the audience the way Freddie did. Again, great voice, but not a rock singer. That doesn't disparage him, he just doesn't have the grit to sing rock music.

But he (Adam) doesnt need to connect with the audience THE WAY Freddie did because he's not Freddie. He have another way to connect with the audience. Many people may not like it but that's a very different subject.
And no, he is not a rock singer, but I dont see that as an issue. Freddie wasnt an Opera singer and he did a great job. Of course, if you ask a Mario Lanza fan what do he think of Freddie singing opera, you wont have a possitive reaction. Ask a "Pap" Baxter fan what do they think of Somebody to love and you will hear exactly the same thing you wrote. Does that makes Freddie "unworthy"?

gerry wrote:

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Has he forgotten about playing in front of an audience in Rio in which Freddie had the audience of 250.000 adoring fans eating out of the palm of his hand?

Im sure he havent, but he havent remember that he had 300000 fans in Ukraine with PR and another 300000 with Adam.

Mr.Mouth wrote:

John needs to come up private or publici..
His words would majke impact on Queen fan(us)

John no longer cares about Queen, in fact I think he no longer care about Queen royalties or even to be recognized as an amazing musician, he lives happy in his own world, why do people think he "must" or "need" to be involved again in Queen? Leave the guy alone! Some people are born that way and dont want to be stars or be everywhere on the media.

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The King Of Rhye 14 December 2014 19:45 · Member since August 2004

winterspelt wrote:

You may be right, in fact that is something I have been thinking for lots of years: Who could be Brian's replacement if he (and not Freddie) were dead. Perhaps we could have something like Queen+ Steve Vai, who knows?

Very interesting thing to ponder, and make wild speculation about there! Maybe a younger guy, from a band that were Queen fans............Nuno Bettencourt? Or the man who Brian recently wrote the foreword of an autobiography for, Joe Satriani? (who took over guitar duties for Deep Purple for a while, and in fact turned down an offer to join permanently)...........maybe even Jeff Beck (who's worked with them at various times).......

Or one of the less famous guys that worked with Roger and/or Brian........Clayton Moss, Jason Falloon, Jamie Moses.......(I guess that last one would have to depend on when Brian died, cus he didnt work with him until the early 90s...)

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Sheer Brass Neck 14 December 2014 21:21 · Member since May 2008

i luuuuvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv Nuno Bettencourt. Luuuuuvvvvvvvvvvvvv him. Respects Queen, gets Queen, but he's Nuno Bettencourt. If Roger Taylor said Nuno is equal or better than Brain i'd be pissed. He's a million times better as a guitarist than Brian, but he's not in the same league as Brian as a guitarist for Queen. That's why I find Brian's comments to be disrespectful to Freddie's memory. A guy who can hit the notes is not an equal in any way, shape or form to the real thing. IMHO.

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user1 15 December 2014 01:51 · Member since October 2006

If you look back at what John Deacon said about Robbie Williams - who can be considered as a real artist in comparison to Adam Lambert and is able to please large crowds (Live At Knebworth 2003 DVD)

"Roger and Brian got together to do the song with Blobby Williams but I told them I had retired.
"I didn't want to be involved with it and I'm glad. I've heard what they did and it's rubbish.
"It is one of the greatest songs ever written but I think they've
ruined it. I don't want to be nasty but let's just say Blobby Williams
is no Freddie Mercury. Freddie can never be replaced - and certainly not by him
http://www.queenarchives.com/index.php?title=Queen_-_04-21-2001_-_The_Sun_-_Blobby_ruined_our_song

One can imagine what he thinks about working with Adam Lambert...

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Vocal harmony 15 December 2014 06:43 · Member since June 2011

^^^^ and that maybe is the answer. Deacy was vocal bout Williams because he didn't like what he did. However he has remained quiet about Rodgers and Lambert. BM and RT have both said he approves, I'm sure if he didn't he would have said so and especially after being quoted on film as saying so.

So if you don't like Lambert I really don't believe JD is going to rise up and lead your crusade.

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The King Of Rhye 15 December 2014 08:37 · Member since August 2004

Sheer Brass Neck wrote:

i luuuuvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv Nuno Bettencourt. Luuuuuvvvvvvvvvvvvv him. Respects Queen, gets Queen, but he's Nuno Bettencourt. If Roger Taylor said Nuno is equal or better than Brain i'd be pissed. He's a million times better as a guitarist than Brian, but he's not in the same league as Brian as a guitarist for Queen. That's why I find Brian's comments to be disrespectful to Freddie's memory. A guy who can hit the notes is not an equal in any way, shape or form to the real thing. IMHO.

I feel like pounding my head against the wall here......

Where did Brian say Adam was equal to or better than Freddie?? He was talking about the show and the energy they generate.....

The only time I ever read where Brian was saying Adam is better than Freddie at something.....I don't know the exact quote, but didnt he say Adam could hit the notes night after night in a way Freddie didn't..........which to be honest, is true.......

And Nuno's a million times better guitarist than Brian? No freakin way! Maybe he edges him in technical ability a bit, but not by THAT much.....

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someonewholikesadam 15 December 2014 17:12 · Member since February 2012

gerry wrote:

well where there is girl power Lambert will get many of the arenas filled up.
There is a hug difference here as Freddie was a true musician in every sense where Lambert is eye candy for the girls and its always the same with those reality stars, looks over talent always wins out, sign of the times but not for then better i may add.
Freddie as we all know is the true hero of Queen, and just because Adam is selling the arenas out does not mean he is better or indeed more popular than Freddie.
Girls hormones are all over the place around 13 to 18!
Later on in life they will be very embarrassed that they even liked Adam Lambert lol

Since I am 55, does that mean when I'm in my 80s I'll be embarrassed??

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Sheer Brass Neck 15 December 2014 21:08 · Member since May 2008

Double post

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Sheer Brass Neck 15 December 2014 21:08 · Member since May 2008

The King Of Rhye wrote:[/b

"I feel like pounding my head against the wall here......"

Start pounding.

"Where did Brian say Adam was equal to or better than Freddie?? He was talking about the show and the energy they generate....."

Queen's Brian May, during an interview with Neu magazine, explained that having Lambert as their current frontman is amazing because his energy and TALENT (CAPS emphasis mine) equals that of the late Freddie Mercury:

"The energy which we generate in an arena is I would say as strong as ever — and I think Freddie would agree with me. I don’t think he would be upset with me saying that. I think the Queen show today that we do with Adam Lambert is the equal of anything we ever did.”

So he just said Adam is equal in talent to Freddie Mercury. Or is that a misquote about "energy"? And that the "Queen show today is the equal of ANYTHING (CAPS emphasis mine) we ever did." Anything? Live Aid? The concert that produced a documentary calling their set "20 minutes that changed music"? Where the greatest stars of the day played and no one got a reaction (U2, Stones, Bruce Springsteen, Zep) even close to Queen? Equal to Hammersmith Odeon or The Rainbow gig? Equal to Maple Leaf Gardens in 1977 where people, upon hearing We will rock you for the first time started singing it on Yonge Street in Toronto, without having ever heard the song on the radio? That kind of energy?

I get that people like Adam Lambert. Nice voice, bit of charisma. But anyone who thinks he inhabits the same universe as a TALENT as Freddie Mercury is mentally ill. I don't care if he hits notes night after night that Freddie couldn't hit. People talk about Adam as a better live singer. I'm fair, let's say I give him that over Freddie. Freddie is arguably the greatest front man in rock history. He wrote arguably the greatest song of the rock era, and arguably the most enduring. He is arguably the greatest singer in the rock era. He has written arguably the most diverse style of classic songs of anyone in the rock era. I'd define that as "talent". You call Adam Lambert as talented as that? Can't help you mate.

By the way, Nuno's ten million times better than Brian? But it's not a competition, Brian knows that so why is he quantifying Adam's talent compared to Freddie's? Very confusing.

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The King Of Rhye 16 December 2014 07:48 · Member since August 2004

Ok, admittedly, I don't really know about the 'energy'......never having attended a Queen show with Freddie........sure, I've heard countless bootlegs, and watched a bunch of videos, but of course that can't compare to actually being there! I was at the Queen+Adam show back in July.....(.I thought there was more energy than when I saw em with Paul back in 06, but maybe that was just that there was a bigger crowd, but thats kinda beside the point)

and I cant dispute that Freddie is the greatest ever........I dont think Brian would, either (though I'm not in his head, I dont know what he thinks)

Brian never actually even used the word "talent" himself in the article! That was the magazine. (I kinda think they did that to make a bold headline or something) If you want to complain about them, fine..........

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