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Will we ever see another band such as Queen in our lifetime? I think I have

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I think I have an answer.

A friend, and I were discussing on why today's music sucks so bad, and why do we see lots of the younger generation listening to songs of the 60's, and 70's, and seeming to prefer it to the music of today.

I asked the question will we ever see another star that had such ultra huge starpower as Elvis, or a group that caused such a sensation as the Beetles, and to a lesser degree bands like Queen, Zeppelin, Stones, the Who, Kiss, etc.

To put it bluntly just about every group that came out in that era, and got playtime, had a great song for the ages. Even the slow sappy songs like those that came from the Captain, and Tennille , and Barry Manillow were great songs. Then you have the more Rock/rollish songs like Tie Your Mother Down, We are the Champions, BoRap, etc. ALL were simply great, outstanding works of art. Not just the instrumental parts, but also the lyrics of some of those songs are just amazing.

My friend hit the nail right on the head, and gave me an answer that actually makes sense.

He said that when something comes out that is new, and causes such a social sensation as the music of the 60/70's [I would say the 50's, but at that time music was just gaining ground, and by the 60's had busted wide open] it can't ever be re-done, it can only be copied which is why we most likely won't see the likes of the above mentioned.

I know some will say that there is good music out there if you look, but that's not what I'm talking about. There are no bands today, and I would say for the past decade, that hold a candle to Queen as far as popularity and style, and none that even come close to the heavy hitters of those days. And, most of today's artist don't have any staying power. You tend to forget them almost before their song finished playing.

Even today with the world having a much bigger population [more than doubling since the 60's] Elvis still holds the record for biggest selling Holiday album, overall record sales, and biggest TV audience ever in history for solo performer, then you have the Beetles who's overall record sales were huge vs even the bands of their day.

Would have been interesting if our generation had the internet back in the 70's. Youtube would have had to make the number of views listed exponentially.
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I'm not sure that any band will have the same cultural impact as the early bands, but there are bands who are just as good artistically, although different, of course.

Great bands post-1990 have included

Manic Street Preachers
Radiohead (although both manics and radiohead got quite far up their own arses)
Nirvana of course, can't be forgotten
The Foo Fighters
The Killers
Coldplay - they are not artistically great but they're culturally important to a great number of people.
Keane had potential, didn't seem to follow it through

But in that list of bands, there were none as wide ranging or adventurous as Queen, it's true. Or the Beatles.
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Overall best selling record sales goes to The Beatles, not Elvis.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_best-selling_music_artists
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It sounds as if you believe music wasn't invented before the 60's and 70's.
It was, and classics were written even then.

And you simply cannot compare pre-digital era sales with the figures we get now when most of what people listen to is basically stolen.

Of course there will be greats now and in the future- that's just the way it is.
Every generation protests that theirs was the best and eventually every generation is forced, if only by attrition, to pass the torch.

You may not like it or enjoy the newer sounds but life and music will [i]always[/i] go on.
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I think Nirvana and The Foo Fighters will be the Queen and Zeppelin of our generation. They will be the rock bands that people 40-50 years from now will still listen to. Can't say that about many others.
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[QUOTE] [b]Hoopsie wrote:[/b]

It sounds as if you believe music wasn't invented before the 60's and 70's.
It was, and classics were written even then.

And you simply cannot compare pre-digital era sales with the figures we get now when most of what people listen to is basically stolen.

Of course there will be greats now and in the future- that's just the way it is.
Every generation protests that theirs was the best and eventually every generation is forced, if only by attrition, to pass the torch.

You may not like it or enjoy the newer sounds but life and music will [i]always[/i] go on.[/QUOTE]

Good post there, I agree completely......I think the op meant "rock music", not just "music", when saying it only really got going in the 60s......or at least I hope so, cus I listen to a decent amount of blues and jazz from around or before that time that is just awesome.......:D
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Yes, rock music.
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By the way, totally misleading title to this thread! I first read it and thought you meant you HAVE seen another band like Queen......lol (I guess it cut off "an answer")
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Muse.

Black Holes And Revelations and The 2nd Law are phenomenal albums.
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Ya know what my favorite album to come out of the last 10 years........well, uh, since 2000.........is? Not that the bands all that original, but just damn good at what they do...........The Darkness's Permission To Land! For one thing I LOVE Justin Hawkins's voice......like he sang on a song on another album, "an Englishman with a very high voice, singing rock n roll"..........(actually I think he's hit notes that Freddie never did!)...............I'd recommend them to anyone that likes 70s Queen stuff.........they;re very much in that vein............
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oops double post!!!
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[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]

Muse.

Black Holes And Revelations and The 2nd Law are phenomenal albums.
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Yes
And live, they are the real deal!
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[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]

Muse.

Black Holes And Revelations and The 2nd Law are phenomenal albums.
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^^
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except for The 2nd Law ! you really think that was a better album than The Resistance?

I love The 2nd Law as a good collection of songs (some of them superb songs, as usual with Muse), but I´ve always felt it´s a disjointed album that lacks the flow that The Resistance and Black Holes had ....

Not to mention that I always skip Save Me and Liquid State. I´m sorry for Chris Wolstenholme, but I find those songs really, really subpar, compared to their regular deliveries. Just my personal opinion, of course !

Interesting ... I´m a big, big fan of The Resistance and had great expectations (not fullfilled) with The 2nd Law, but you seem to perceive it just the oposite way ..... and that proves, one more time, the greatness of music :-)
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[QUOTE] [b]Vali wrote:[/b]

except for The 2nd Law ! you really think that was a better album than The Resistance?[/QUOTE]
Very much so. To me The Resistance kind of dies after track 3. United States of Eurasia is just too political and overly Queen ripoffy (is that a word? It is now). MK Ultra dives too deeply into conspiracy quack land. And Matt Bellamy, brilliant as he is, is not an orchestral arranger. The Symphony suite just doesn't sound the way a string arrangement should sound. He just applies his keyboard arpeggio technique to strings, which just makes them superfluous instead of actually adding a new dimension to the music.

The 2nd Law, on the other hand, is a return to form - Muse doing what Muse does best, which is sticking to their principles and incorporating other genres of music into what they do. Bringing dubstep into Follow Me is one of the most brilliant decisions in popular music in decades. This is exactly what Queen were doing in the 70s on Sheer Heart Attack through News Of The World - trying out a genre of music once and never again. This is what makes Black Holes And Revelations an excellent album as well.

But I do agree that the Chris tracks are the weak spot on the album, although I still say good on them for trying to expand.

[QUOTE]Interesting ... I´m a big, big fan of The Resistance and had great expectations (not fullfilled) with The 2nd Law, but you seem to perceive it just the oposite way ..... and that proves, one more time, the greatness of music :-) [/QUOTE]
Yup :-)

Regardless of these little differences in opinion, I still say they have been, by far, the most interesting rock band of the last decade.
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[QUOTE] [b]MadTheSwine73 wrote:[/b]

I think Nirvana and The Foo Fighters will be the Queen and Zeppelin of our generation. They will be the rock bands that people 40-50 years from now will still listen to. Can't say that about many others.[/QUOTE]

ouch!!!
Kings of Leon, Killers, Manics, Green day, Muse, RHCPs, White Stripes, Blink, Coldplay, Radiohead, Artic Monkeys, Black Keys, QoTSA, Arcade Fire, Alter Bridge, Pearl Jam, Shinedown, Matchbox Twenty...even My Chemical Romance had their moments.
Every decade/generation produces bands that although not mega-huge, will still be listened to in decades to come.

Quality always survives the test of time.
which is why "lesser known" (in the mainstream) bands like The Band, Velvet Underground, CCR, Love, Zombies, Jefferson Airplane, Buffalo Springfield, Byrds - have ALL produced a handful of songs that will remain in the consciousness of the mainstream for decades to come.
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