ANNOUNCE: Queen+Adam Lambert: Rock Big Ben Live (2014-12-31) HD1080i

Oh, I just found another HD cap of this video (usenet or direct download). Higher bitrate, but it's also mid-quality H264 unfortunately :P

I've checked the capture on my parents Freeview HD PVR, the video PID is 6601 (H264) and audio PID 6602 (stereo 48KHz AAC) so not only has the stream in this posting been transcoded at least in the audio, the PIDs don't match even for the video.

The raw broadcast also has a secondary AAC audio with visual impaired commentary, if desired this is intended to be mixed in the player with the primary audio. Plus there is a DVB subtitles stream. This is the BBC, they have requirements for disabled accessibility of their programming.

EDIT: the PID numbers could be specific to the transmitter since different programme guide data is inserted and the multiplex created. My parents recorded from Emley Moor transmitter.

terraj wrote:

Oh, I just found another HD cap of this video (<a href="http://www.nzbclub.com/nzb_view/41226636/Queen_Adam_Lambert_NYE_Queen_Adam_Lambert_Rock_Big_Ben_Live_2015_1080i_HDTV_DD2_0_h264_BBC1HD">usenet</a> or <a href="http://www.softsclub.com/tv-shows/38124-queen-adam-lambert-rock-big-ben-live-2015-1080i-hdtv-dd2-0-h264-bbc1hd.html">direct download</a>). Higher bitrate, but it's also mid-quality H264 unfortunately :P

Details for this capture claim:

Format : MPEG-TS at 9 724 Kbps
Length : 5.15 GiB for 1h 15mn 47s 454ms

Video #0 : AVC at 9 050 Kbps
Aspect : 1920 x 1080 (1.778) at 25.000 fps

Audio #0 : AC-3 at 192 Kbps
Infos : 2 channels, 48.0 KHz
Language : en

Text #0 : DVB Subtitle
Language : en

Text #1 : Teletext Subtitle
Language : en

which is a bit strange in having two sets of subtitles. No Freeview streams, either SD or HD, contain Teletext subtitles. And the audio description for visually impaired is missing, which is a bit odd if you're going to include the subtitles.

It is possible this is a Freesat/Sky satellite capture given the AC3 audio and I believe Sky did have Teletext subtitles for a while, though I don't know if they still do.

But if it were Satellite direct stream capture then the video should look better than Freeview HD, since the bit rates on Freesat/Sky are higher.

terraj wrote:

Please note that the slight video glitches in Somebody to Love and Fat Bottomed Girls were also in the official website video, which means this was a transmission issue, not a capping one.

Interesting. It may be my parents recording is perfect after all, I can't be sure now whether the video glitches were there or elsewhere. There weren't any audio glitches. I'll take my parents recording home with me in case there was a problem with mine while I was away.

However, I still can't upload until next weekend as I am away from my torrent server and I distribute stuff by torrent.

OwenSmith wrote:

terraj wrote:

Oh, I just found another HD cap of this video (<a href="http://www.nzbclub.com/nzb_view/41226636/Queen_Adam_Lambert_NYE_Queen_Adam_Lambert_Rock_Big_Ben_Live_2015_1080i_HDTV_DD2_0_h264_BBC1HD">usenet</a> or <a href="http://www.softsclub.com/tv-shows/38124-queen-adam-lambert-rock-big-ben-live-2015-1080i-hdtv-dd2-0-h264-bbc1hd.html">direct download</a>). Higher bitrate, but it's also mid-quality H264 unfortunately :P

Details for this capture claim:

Format : MPEG-TS at 9 724 Kbps
Length : 5.15 GiB for 1h 15mn 47s 454ms

Video #0 : AVC at 9 050 Kbps
Aspect : 1920 x 1080 (1.778) at 25.000 fps

Audio #0 : AC-3 at 192 Kbps
Infos : 2 channels, 48.0 KHz
Language : en

Text #0 : DVB Subtitle
Language : en

Text #1 : Teletext Subtitle
Language : en

which is a bit strange in having two sets of subtitles. No Freeview streams, either SD or HD, contain Teletext subtitles. And the audio description for visually impaired is missing, which is a bit odd if you're going to include the subtitles.

It is possible this is a Freesat/Sky satellite capture given the AC3 audio and I believe Sky did have Teletext subtitles for a while, though I don't know if they still do.

But if it were Satellite direct stream capture then the video should look better than Freeview HD, since the bit rates on Freesat/Sky are higher.

Here's more info on the video (taken from Usenet) if it helps
<pre>General
ID : 1 (0x1)
Complete name : Queen.&.Adam.Lambert.Rock.Big.Ben.Live.2015.1080i.HDTV.DD2.0.h264-BBC1HD.ts
Format : MPEG-TS
File size : 5.15 GiB
Duration : 1h 15mn
Overall bit rate : 9 724 Kbps

Video
ID : 2301 (0x8FD)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : [email protected]
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 4 frames
Codec ID : 27
Duration : 1h 15mn
Bit rate : 9 050 Kbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 25.000 fps
Standard : Component
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : MBAFF
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.175
Stream size : 4.79 GiB (93%)
Color primaries : BT.709-5, BT.1361, IEC 61966-2-4, SMPTE RP177
Transfer characteristics : BT.709-5, BT.1361
Matrix coefficients : BT.709-5, BT.1361, IEC 61966-2-4 709, SMPTE RP177

Audio
ID : 2310 (0x906)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Codec ID : 6
Duration : 1h 15mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 192 Kbps
Channel(s) : 2 channels
Channel positions : Front: L R
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Compression mode : Lossy
Stream size : 104 MiB (2%)
Language : English

Text #1
ID : 2401 (0x961)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : DVB Subtitle
Codec ID : 6
Duration : 1h 15mn
Delay relative to video : 1s 294ms
Language : English

Text #2
ID : 2410 (0x96A)-888
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : Teletext Subtitle
Language : English</pre>

FYI here's what the subtitle tracks in the new 5.15 GB source actually looks like (there are actually 3 tracks)

queenside wrote:

thanks a lot terraj. i see this is full hd resolution but on my laptop it looks worse than your 720p upload.

boy, never use a laptop to watch a 1080p high res video, use a proper BR player

Thanks for your efforts but there's so many glitches in this as to make it unwatchable. I'm trying the second one posted in this thread, fingers crossed!

terraj wrote:

Nitroboy wrote:

What's the source for this? It can't be TV since that would have the logo (?), it can't be the web-stream either as that would have the logo as well.
I'm just wondering, because AFAIK, all plausible source should be 720p.

I'm not sure myself. I originally thought it was satellite, but I just spoke to my friend who gave me the file, and it seems this capper doesn't do satellite. Anyway, if you want even higher quality stuff, I might be able to get hold of a MPEG-TS 29-36Mbps satellite source of of this video. Which would make it around 18GB...

Oh my God! If you can do that, it would be much appreciated. Take your time :-)

Thanks for sharing this. I´m glad you like Q+AL because your shares are outstanding.

P-Tr extinction event wrote:

the full soundcheck and rehearsals have also went live through the satellite feed around 5-7 pm, some satellite feed hunter surely recorded the stream somewhere in the world.
http://www.satelliweb.com/index.php?section=livef&d=2014-12-31

This is very interesting information. Let´s hope someone in the world recorded this.
But do you think this was the reharsal - like it´s advirtised - or the soundcheck?
If this was the reharsal, then there´s a possibility of "Drowse" to be in the video.

Would be good if it was.

Ken8 wrote:

Thanks for your efforts but there's so many glitches in this as to make it unwatchable. I'm trying the second one posted in this thread, fingers crossed!

There aren't any glitches in the file, besides the one I mentioned in the description which the second file has. Lots of people have watched this without issue. If you have problems playing it's this file, to be honest, I think the second will be even more difficult as it requires more processing power. The newer version is higher bitrate tho (but i haven't checked if it's glitch free yet), so that may be a better download if the file is clean. I've been told that the audio quality is better in the second one.

ETA: Just FYI, I'm halfway through this 5.15 GB video, and I noticed a bit more visual glitches in I Want it All at 31:28 and 31:50. As for difference in audio quality, I personally can't really tell the difference (might be my ears :P). I've been told that the capper that provided the first video above, doesn't transcode the footage.

My six year old but high spec at the time laptop is just on top of the task of playing 1080i or 1080p H264 video. This is a 2.9GHz Core2Duo with quite a good graphics chip for the time, it's a 16 inch 1920 x 1080 screen (which was very hard to get 6 years ago, I had to buy a Sony Vaio). And it now has an SSD drive in it, I don't know if with the original spinning hard disc it would have been up to the task. There are an awful lot of PCs out there which are simply not powerful enough to play these streams reliably, so don't immediately assume it is the file that is faulty.

terraj wrote:

Ken8 wrote:

Thanks for your efforts but there's so many glitches in this as to make it unwatchable. I'm trying the second one posted in this thread, fingers crossed!

There aren't any glitches in the file, besides the one I mentioned in the description which the second file has.

I watched this on my BD player and it was an absolute mess, although it handles other ts files with ease. Played it on my pc and it seemed fine. I'm going to make an AVCHD disc and see if that improves standalone compatability.

I suspect the resyncing has upset the internal video timing info.

The other file plays flawlessly on standalone

I will upload the original unresynched file, if that helps. I'll test it with direct input to my Sony TV later