ANAGRAMER
Am I alone in thinking he's finally flipped?
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7thStranger
They both have. Maybe John will let us hide in his basement.
mooghead
He is just so utterly fucking boring these days. Does he expect his fans to become vegetarians and vote Green now?! The guy is on a different planet.
EDWOOD
The minute he mentioned Owen Jones as someone we should read on his website I knew he has finally lost the plot. Seems he wants to be a right-on political celebrity - something that Queen never gave a shit about (rightly) throughout their career.
Mercuryman12
[QUOTE] [b]EDWOOD wrote:[/b]
The minute he mentioned Owen Jones as someone we should read on his website I knew he has finally lost the plot. Seems he wants to be a right-on political celebrity - something that Queen never gave a shit about (rightly) throughout their career.[/QUOTE]
You can't judge what he thinks. Peoples ideas change as they get older. Brian is an example going from a hard rock guitarist to a aging hippie who plays guitar with his much more interesting friend once and awhile
The minute he mentioned Owen Jones as someone we should read on his website I knew he has finally lost the plot. Seems he wants to be a right-on political celebrity - something that Queen never gave a shit about (rightly) throughout their career.[/QUOTE]
You can't judge what he thinks. Peoples ideas change as they get older. Brian is an example going from a hard rock guitarist to a aging hippie who plays guitar with his much more interesting friend once and awhile
tomchristie22
Well, I don't know much about the current political climate in the UK, but everything he said in the video about democracy and fair representation of the population seemed pretty reasonable to me.
people on streets
[QUOTE] [b]mooghead wrote:[/b]
He is just so utterly fucking boring these days. Does he expect his fans to become vegetarians and vote Green now?! The guy is on a different planet.[/QUOTE]
I agree. To make it worse: vegan.
He is just so utterly fucking boring these days. Does he expect his fans to become vegetarians and vote Green now?! The guy is on a different planet.[/QUOTE]
I agree. To make it worse: vegan.
tomchristie22
[QUOTE] [b]mooghead wrote:[/b]
Does he expect his fans to become vegetarians and vote Green now?! The guy is on a different planet.[/QUOTE]
He said at the start that encouraging people to become vegetarians WASN'T his point. He used the Green party as an example of a party that couldn't get in regardless of the amount of votes they get, because of the way the system's set up - he's criticising the system, and at no point does he say 'so vote Green'.
Seriously, it seems like you picked out two things you thought sounded dumb without actually paying attention to the sentences they were in.
Does he expect his fans to become vegetarians and vote Green now?! The guy is on a different planet.[/QUOTE]
He said at the start that encouraging people to become vegetarians WASN'T his point. He used the Green party as an example of a party that couldn't get in regardless of the amount of votes they get, because of the way the system's set up - he's criticising the system, and at no point does he say 'so vote Green'.
Seriously, it seems like you picked out two things you thought sounded dumb without actually paying attention to the sentences they were in.
ANAGRAMER
^^
Yeah. It seems to be the system that's getting his blood boiled and that smaller political parties have no influence
Not sure here that I want a guy in sandals in charge of the UK...
I think Brian is hitting his head on a brick wall; from here is Scotland, it seems that the rUK is lurching to the right which is only going to make matters worse....heaven forbid that the government will meet in a pub car park with a fag in one hand and a pint in the other....
Yeah. It seems to be the system that's getting his blood boiled and that smaller political parties have no influence
Not sure here that I want a guy in sandals in charge of the UK...
I think Brian is hitting his head on a brick wall; from here is Scotland, it seems that the rUK is lurching to the right which is only going to make matters worse....heaven forbid that the government will meet in a pub car park with a fag in one hand and a pint in the other....
ANAGRAMER
[QUOTE] [b]tomchristie22 wrote:[/b]
Well, I don't know much about the current political climate in the UK, but everything he said in the video about democracy and fair representation of the population seemed pretty reasonable to me.
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Yeah, does seem reasonable but the 'first past the post' system in the UK is designed to stop small interest groups having any real influence.
The PR system works in Scotland and took us to the brink of independence which is fair enough but, in rU! if right wing groups have influence I would worry...
I don't think Brian had thought this through
Well, I don't know much about the current political climate in the UK, but everything he said in the video about democracy and fair representation of the population seemed pretty reasonable to me.
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Yeah, does seem reasonable but the 'first past the post' system in the UK is designed to stop small interest groups having any real influence.
The PR system works in Scotland and took us to the brink of independence which is fair enough but, in rU! if right wing groups have influence I would worry...
I don't think Brian had thought this through
mooghead
[QUOTE] [b]tomchristie22 wrote:[/b]
Well, I don't know much about the current political climate in the UK, but everything he said in the video about democracy and fair representation of the population seemed pretty reasonable to me.
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Durr... of course its reasonable, its what everyone wants, but it aint gonna happen. Come the election I will be exercising my right to not vote.
Well, I don't know much about the current political climate in the UK, but everything he said in the video about democracy and fair representation of the population seemed pretty reasonable to me.
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Durr... of course its reasonable, its what everyone wants, but it aint gonna happen. Come the election I will be exercising my right to not vote.
tomchristie22
Ah okay. Thanks for explaining, all.
Pingfah
The British people were handed the opportunity to reform the voting system on a plate in 2011, We had a fucking national referendum on whether to change our voting system to one that would give fair representation to all parties, and guess what? We voted against it, because collectively we are a bunch of gullible idiots who can be persuaded to vote against.our best interests by dangling a half eaten carrot in front of our faces.
He should not waste his time, the British electorate are a bunch of morons. We deserve everything we get.
He should not waste his time, the British electorate are a bunch of morons. We deserve everything we get.
QueenTwo
God I think Brian has totally flipped now, he's so much on a different planet now with all his opinions and by mostly his music sense. call it a day brian and hang up that guitar - stop digging a deeper hole for yourself - And for me a long time queen fan since day 1 kya 1973 - You have turned Queen into a circus now when I look at any footage which I try and avoid - it looks just like something made up from the x factor........ Hopefully one day you will wake up and see this for yourself. I admit Brian still has the great queen guitar sound but that's it.....rest is a money making rock'n'pop circus
matt z
Pingfah. Please elucidate me on the situation regarding an open opportunity to change the voting standard in the UK.
In the U.S. such a thing called the "popular vote" is precluded by the state vote which tallies preference within a state (typically) and votes accordingly.
Each state garners a FULL TOTAL vote of the number of ELECTORAL COLLEGE votes each state has been given.
This is why politicians pander to states where they rarely generate anything meaningful for.
A third party vote would have to generate an abundance within each state in order to even generate an electoral college
The number of eligible voters voting for a particular candidate doesn't count if the state 's favor favors one particular party.
Therefore 3rd party candidates have no presence in the HOR(house of representatives; representatives given per state according to population) or the SENATE (*2 arbitrary representatives given to each state)
3rd party candidacy tends to be frowned upon because it takes AWAY votes from other parties (the only two seemingly eligible: democratic and republican) and sways their position in the forthcoming congress.
How is the British/ UK different?
Please, I'm asking because I DO NOT KNOW and a thorough web article might not reflect the value of an actual constituent's perspective
In the U.S. such a thing called the "popular vote" is precluded by the state vote which tallies preference within a state (typically) and votes accordingly.
Each state garners a FULL TOTAL vote of the number of ELECTORAL COLLEGE votes each state has been given.
This is why politicians pander to states where they rarely generate anything meaningful for.
A third party vote would have to generate an abundance within each state in order to even generate an electoral college
The number of eligible voters voting for a particular candidate doesn't count if the state 's favor favors one particular party.
Therefore 3rd party candidates have no presence in the HOR(house of representatives; representatives given per state according to population) or the SENATE (*2 arbitrary representatives given to each state)
3rd party candidacy tends to be frowned upon because it takes AWAY votes from other parties (the only two seemingly eligible: democratic and republican) and sways their position in the forthcoming congress.
How is the British/ UK different?
Please, I'm asking because I DO NOT KNOW and a thorough web article might not reflect the value of an actual constituent's perspective