Viper
amazing replies! thx a lot guys!
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Togg
I saw them first in 1980, then every tour through to 2015's most recent tour.
If I'm honest Fred made most of the mistakes followed by Brian, just like every other band on the planet when you are out there and the lights are in your face or suddenly go out, you miss notes on the guitar or forget the lyric.
Queen were a totally different beast on stage to recorded, almost like two different bands. However they were the out and out best at putting on a show and 'performing'
Nothing has changed there after seeing the 2015 gigs.
If I'm honest Fred made most of the mistakes followed by Brian, just like every other band on the planet when you are out there and the lights are in your face or suddenly go out, you miss notes on the guitar or forget the lyric.
Queen were a totally different beast on stage to recorded, almost like two different bands. However they were the out and out best at putting on a show and 'performing'
Nothing has changed there after seeing the 2015 gigs.
brENsKi
[QUOTE] [b]mike hunt wrote:[/b]
Remember, what made The Beatles the best of all time was their songwriting abilities, not musical ability. Queen were better writers by a country mile than DT IMO. [/QUOTE]
that depends on what "musical ability" you're referring to
learned/theory/taught ability - maybe not
innovation/self taught ability - they really had no equal
think about the technology available at that time, they really were pioneers - and the stuff they learned "in real time" has no comparison...listening to Abbey Rd, Revolver and "White Album" even today - i marvel at what i hear.
and it's incredible how many of those initial small steps were expanded upon by queen, floyd, genesis and rush....the benefit of a few more years and better technology with 3x the storage just made things so much easier.
Remember, what made The Beatles the best of all time was their songwriting abilities, not musical ability. Queen were better writers by a country mile than DT IMO. [/QUOTE]
that depends on what "musical ability" you're referring to
learned/theory/taught ability - maybe not
innovation/self taught ability - they really had no equal
think about the technology available at that time, they really were pioneers - and the stuff they learned "in real time" has no comparison...listening to Abbey Rd, Revolver and "White Album" even today - i marvel at what i hear.
and it's incredible how many of those initial small steps were expanded upon by queen, floyd, genesis and rush....the benefit of a few more years and better technology with 3x the storage just made things so much easier.
Gregsynth
If I had to pick an era to time-travel back to see Queen, it'll either be the early gigs (pre-1975), or the Crazy Tour.
Seeing Queen in those intimate venues? Awesome!
Seeing Queen in those intimate venues? Awesome!
Planetgurl
I think the most 'intimate' venue I ever saw them in was the Brighton Centre on the Crazy Tour. I went the second night and it was by no means a sell out, as there was space to move around in front of the stage believe it or not. We were pretty much at the front - those lights were hot! I met Steve Gett at Brighton railway station who was covering the tour for Melody Maker and we had a conversation on the train going back to Crawley and he gave me his pass.The Rainbow on that tour was interesting too, we ran down to the circle barrier upstairs and were there all night at the front having a great time - no-one stopped us or sent us back to our seats. Quite high up too... Kampuchea , well all the audience was completely up for it and it was a wild and euphoric night for all concerned. Very special night. WISH i'd gone to Purley Tiffany - that was a glorified discoteque but bigger than a small club. Probably was an old ballroom...
fofum
Wow, great response Planetgurl. You really paint a good picture of what it was like :)
I would love to have seen them, especially at a more intimate gig. When I think of Wembley or Knebworth, I always imagine myself at the back.
I would love to have seen them, especially at a more intimate gig. When I think of Wembley or Knebworth, I always imagine myself at the back.
Planetgurl
I've written a few concerts up on queenconcerts.com - first one was 29th November 1975 which is quite detailed... Yeah, me too. Although on the early tours, even in March '74, if you read the reviews their equipment played up a lot and was breaking down. I have a few reviews where that's mentioned. Nevertheless, must have been great to see them in tiny places in Croydon or many other places....
brENsKi
[QUOTE] [b]Vocal harmony wrote:[/b]
Live they had that classic British rock format, so many of the great bands of the late 60's and 70's seemed to follow, The Who, Zep, Purple, Cream, Sabbath etc..[/QUOTE]
would agree completely with your point, but Purple don't fit above - they were a five-piece using the combo of Lord's keyboards and Blacker's strat to interchange lead instrumentation....the other effectively taking the rhythm
"guitar" role
Live they had that classic British rock format, so many of the great bands of the late 60's and 70's seemed to follow, The Who, Zep, Purple, Cream, Sabbath etc..[/QUOTE]
would agree completely with your point, but Purple don't fit above - they were a five-piece using the combo of Lord's keyboards and Blacker's strat to interchange lead instrumentation....the other effectively taking the rhythm
"guitar" role
Vocal harmony
[QUOTE] [b]brENsKi wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]Vocal harmony wrote:[/b]
Live they had that classic British rock format, so many of the great bands of the late 60's and 70's seemed to follow, The Who, Zep, Purple, Cream, Sabbath etc..[/QUOTE]
would agree completely with your point, but Purple don't fit above - they were a five-piece using the combo of Lord's keyboards and Blacker's strat to interchange lead instrumentation....the other effectively taking the rhythm
"guitar" role
[/QUOTE]
Yeah that's very true, but didn't Queen kind of fit into that mould when Freddie was playing piano and BM allowed more space for the extra instrument, and maybe more so from 82 with a live keys player on stage.
[QUOTE] [b]Vocal harmony wrote:[/b]
Live they had that classic British rock format, so many of the great bands of the late 60's and 70's seemed to follow, The Who, Zep, Purple, Cream, Sabbath etc..[/QUOTE]
would agree completely with your point, but Purple don't fit above - they were a five-piece using the combo of Lord's keyboards and Blacker's strat to interchange lead instrumentation....the other effectively taking the rhythm
"guitar" role
[/QUOTE]
Yeah that's very true, but didn't Queen kind of fit into that mould when Freddie was playing piano and BM allowed more space for the extra instrument, and maybe more so from 82 with a live keys player on stage.
Vocal harmony
[QUOTE] [b]Planetgurl wrote:[/b]
I think the most 'intimate' venue I ever saw them in was the Brighton Centre on the Crazy Tour. I went the second night and it was by no means a sell out, ..[/QUOTE]
Interesting to read that. I was there on the first night which was packed
I think the most 'intimate' venue I ever saw them in was the Brighton Centre on the Crazy Tour. I went the second night and it was by no means a sell out, ..[/QUOTE]
Interesting to read that. I was there on the first night which was packed
Planetgurl
Yes I couldn't believe it either and what I don't understand now is why I didn't do both nights...doh!
GonnaUseMyPrisoners
I was fortunate to see them in 1980 and 1982 (Chicago/Hoffman Estates) and have to say they always came off as pretty polished & perfect. Completely focussed, professional, but fun-loving and wild, too. Something about the way bootleg recordings are made seems to amplify mistakes, honestly, you don't even remember such things from one live experience.
Vocal harmony
[QUOTE] [b]GonnaUseMyPrisoners wrote:[/b]
Something about the way bootleg recordings are made seems to amplify mistakes, honestly, you don't even remember such things from one live experience. [/QUOTE]
Not exactly. When you are sitting at home or in the car or where ever listening to live recordings you are listening to the music, and that's the focus of your attention, so you hear everything.
At a gig you become swept up by the atmosphere and excitment and visuals. In that setting some mistakes, missed Q's, wrong note etc tend to go largely un noticed
Something about the way bootleg recordings are made seems to amplify mistakes, honestly, you don't even remember such things from one live experience. [/QUOTE]
Not exactly. When you are sitting at home or in the car or where ever listening to live recordings you are listening to the music, and that's the focus of your attention, so you hear everything.
At a gig you become swept up by the atmosphere and excitment and visuals. In that setting some mistakes, missed Q's, wrong note etc tend to go largely un noticed
ANAGRAMER
[QUOTE] [b]gerry wrote:[/b]
Yes i saw Queen many many times, and on those occasions they were in my eyes faultless, but i have heard on bootleg tapes where they did have bad nights, such as freddies voice was under pressure (no pun intended) or Brian messed a few chords up, or on one occasion Brian fell as there were egg shells on the stage, and he slipped.
I have always considered the four original guys in Queen as the greatest ever Rock group, no one can touch them for style, sound and intelligence.
Freddie was the one who got the audiences excited and Brian contributed with his fancy guitar licks.
I love Queen they were dynamite back in the day, and no one was greater.
If you never witnessed Queen live with Freddie, then you missed the greatest event in Rock History.
Mercury was indeed the rock messenger from god![/QUOTE]
I simply don't believe you Gerry
Yes i saw Queen many many times, and on those occasions they were in my eyes faultless, but i have heard on bootleg tapes where they did have bad nights, such as freddies voice was under pressure (no pun intended) or Brian messed a few chords up, or on one occasion Brian fell as there were egg shells on the stage, and he slipped.
I have always considered the four original guys in Queen as the greatest ever Rock group, no one can touch them for style, sound and intelligence.
Freddie was the one who got the audiences excited and Brian contributed with his fancy guitar licks.
I love Queen they were dynamite back in the day, and no one was greater.
If you never witnessed Queen live with Freddie, then you missed the greatest event in Rock History.
Mercury was indeed the rock messenger from god![/QUOTE]
I simply don't believe you Gerry
The King Of Rhye
[QUOTE] [b]Vocal harmony wrote:[/b]
Not exactly. When you are sitting at home or in the car or where ever listening to live recordings you are listening to the music, and that's the focus of your attention, so you hear everything.
At a gig you become swept up by the atmosphere and excitment and visuals. In that setting some mistakes, missed Q's, wrong note etc tend to go largely un noticed
[/QUOTE]
That's a good point there! I've listened to recordings of shows I was at, and always thought that it sounded better when I was there.....
(actually kind of a cool story about one of those........I saw Rush in '94, and a few years later, I was in a store that sold bootleg cds and such...lo and behold, there was one of that very show! As I recall, it was NOT cheap, but a very cool thing to have.....especially being that those were the days before one could just download the recording the day after, or watch the whole thing on youtube!)
Not exactly. When you are sitting at home or in the car or where ever listening to live recordings you are listening to the music, and that's the focus of your attention, so you hear everything.
At a gig you become swept up by the atmosphere and excitment and visuals. In that setting some mistakes, missed Q's, wrong note etc tend to go largely un noticed
[/QUOTE]
That's a good point there! I've listened to recordings of shows I was at, and always thought that it sounded better when I was there.....
(actually kind of a cool story about one of those........I saw Rush in '94, and a few years later, I was in a store that sold bootleg cds and such...lo and behold, there was one of that very show! As I recall, it was NOT cheap, but a very cool thing to have.....especially being that those were the days before one could just download the recording the day after, or watch the whole thing on youtube!)