magneddu
fairy feller's master stroke,white queen (rainbow march version),back chat..
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HighWideandHandsome
I fell in love with the live versions of Ogre Battle, White Queen (especially Freddie's piano playing on it), Father to Son, and Son and Daughter when I purchased Live at the Rainbow last year. Those four songs in particular are much better than their studio versions (though one could make a case for the album version of Ogre Battle, which is played at a much faster tempo).
tomchristie22
[QUOTE] [b]Sue Dounim wrote:[/b]
I'll take Dragon Attack live over the studio version anyday.
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If they'd played the full song with the bridge section in the middle, it would've been so much better. That's easily my favourite part of the song.
I'll take Dragon Attack live over the studio version anyday.
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If they'd played the full song with the bridge section in the middle, it would've been so much better. That's easily my favourite part of the song.
brENsKi
[QUOTE] [b]magneddu wrote:[/b]
fairy feller's master stroke,[/QUOTE]
oh no, sorry, never.
studio version is perfection.
the existence of one recorded live version of a song doesn't make it better. also, FWIR, wasn't most of the rainbow overdubbed?
fairy feller's master stroke,[/QUOTE]
oh no, sorry, never.
studio version is perfection.
the existence of one recorded live version of a song doesn't make it better. also, FWIR, wasn't most of the rainbow overdubbed?
Sebastian
I think both versions have their own gems. As much as I like the sound of the harpsichord, I prefer piano, so having just the latter is indeed a bonus point. The three part harmonies on the live version (yeah, they might have been overdubbed and/or tampered with) are beautiful and the fact they're simpler than in the studio doesn't make them 'worse.'
Something I really like about the live version is that you get to hear the instrumental solos (piano and guitar) as there are no multi-tracked vocal harmonies to distract you. The studio one, on the other hand, has those exquisite guitar choirs that for obvious reasons couldn't be done live in the format the band had (even if Brian had used a harmoniser, it wouldn't be the same, as they'd be parallel).
To each their own, I think I actually like them both equally. And yeah, maybe the live one we've all heard is as 'live' as KISS's so-called live albums, but even in that case, it's a very nice alternative version which I completely understand if some people prefer over the album one.
Something I really like about the live version is that you get to hear the instrumental solos (piano and guitar) as there are no multi-tracked vocal harmonies to distract you. The studio one, on the other hand, has those exquisite guitar choirs that for obvious reasons couldn't be done live in the format the band had (even if Brian had used a harmoniser, it wouldn't be the same, as they'd be parallel).
To each their own, I think I actually like them both equally. And yeah, maybe the live one we've all heard is as 'live' as KISS's so-called live albums, but even in that case, it's a very nice alternative version which I completely understand if some people prefer over the album one.
tomchristie22
Though this is only suspicion, I believe they only recorded overdubs for those eight or so tracks which they were originally going to issue on the live album of the 31/3/74 concert - the same overdubbed tracks which comprised the only bootleg version of the show that existed for ages. There's no evidence that they were ever planning on including anything but those tracks, so why would they have done vocal overdubs for Fairy Feller?
I will say without a shadow of a doubt that there are only three vocals at any one time on the 2014 release of it. Whether those vocals themselves are overdubs or not, I can't prove. However, the fact that virtually every single vocal overdub on the old versions of the Rainbow shows was stripped away for the 2014 release makes it seem pretty clear to me that they aren't overdubbed on Fairy Feller.
Pitch correction in Pro-Tools, on the other hand, is another story entirely. Apart from the now infamous high note by Freddie in the bridge, it's certainly possible there was tampering throughout the song. Or, maybe the harmonies were just that perfect on the night. Who knows?
I will say without a shadow of a doubt that there are only three vocals at any one time on the 2014 release of it. Whether those vocals themselves are overdubs or not, I can't prove. However, the fact that virtually every single vocal overdub on the old versions of the Rainbow shows was stripped away for the 2014 release makes it seem pretty clear to me that they aren't overdubbed on Fairy Feller.
Pitch correction in Pro-Tools, on the other hand, is another story entirely. Apart from the now infamous high note by Freddie in the bridge, it's certainly possible there was tampering throughout the song. Or, maybe the harmonies were just that perfect on the night. Who knows?
tomchristie22
I agree with Sebastian on enjoyment of live and studio - I must say I like the harmonies better when sung by all three members rather than three (or more) Freddies. The keys and guitar solos are also a bit more polished since, as Sebastian said, they're not being overshadowed by any lavish arrangements - they are the focus. And I do prefer the solo section played on piano rather than harpsichord. Those punching piano chords in the bridge, too, are an excellent quality which the studio version really doesn't emphasise.
Viper
Don't Stop Me Now, Dreamer's Ball, We Will Rock You, '39, Brighton Rock, Spread Your Wings, We Will Rock You [fast], Staying Power, Is This The World We Created...?, We Are The Champions, Now I'm Here and Keep Yourself Alive are the live ones I hear the most. Better than the studio versions IMHO.
HighWideandHandsome
I love the fast version of "We Will Rock You" live (though it was technically recorded first in the BBC session).
"Now I'm Here" was really showing its age by the Magic Tour (in my opinion, it is one of the most dated songs in the Queen catalog), but the live jams that they did on it were wonderful.
"Now I'm Here" was really showing its age by the Magic Tour (in my opinion, it is one of the most dated songs in the Queen catalog), but the live jams that they did on it were wonderful.
Chief Mouse
A Kind Of Magic, Radio Gaga, I Want To Break Free, Play The Game, Crazy Little Thing Called Love, Save Me, Body Language.
Ghostwithasmile is BACK!
I prefer the studio versions of DSMN , YMBF, SYW....
noorie
I am surprised nobody has thought of See What A Fool I've Been. I totally dislike the album version, but just love the live Hammersmith 1975 version. Freddie's voice is amazingly powerful, and Queen have got the mood down to perfection.
Another live version which is much better is You Take My Breath Away at Earl's Court. Also White Man performed in Houston.
Another live version which is much better is You Take My Breath Away at Earl's Court. Also White Man performed in Houston.
Sebastian
[QUOTE] [b]noorie wrote:[/b]
I am surprised nobody has thought of See What A Fool I've Been. I totally dislike the album version[/QUOTE]
To be fair, there's no album version, as it was not on an album. It was the B-side of a single.
[QUOTE] [b]noorie wrote:[/b]
Another live version which is much better is You Take My Breath Away at Earl's Court.[/QUOTE]
I disagree. Sometimes less is more, but sometimes more is more.
Piano < Piano, Guitars and Percussion.
Great lead vocal < Great lead vocal + great harmonies.
[QUOTE] [b]noorie wrote:[/b]
Also White Man performed in Houston. [/QUOTE]
Same:
1 Great Guitar < Many Great Guitars.
2 Great Backing Vocal Parts < 3-4 Great, Multi-Tracked, Massive, Backing Vocal Parts.
I am surprised nobody has thought of See What A Fool I've Been. I totally dislike the album version[/QUOTE]
To be fair, there's no album version, as it was not on an album. It was the B-side of a single.
[QUOTE] [b]noorie wrote:[/b]
Another live version which is much better is You Take My Breath Away at Earl's Court.[/QUOTE]
I disagree. Sometimes less is more, but sometimes more is more.
Piano < Piano, Guitars and Percussion.
Great lead vocal < Great lead vocal + great harmonies.
[QUOTE] [b]noorie wrote:[/b]
Also White Man performed in Houston. [/QUOTE]
Same:
1 Great Guitar < Many Great Guitars.
2 Great Backing Vocal Parts < 3-4 Great, Multi-Tracked, Massive, Backing Vocal Parts.
magneddu
[QUOTE] [b]brENsKi wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]magneddu wrote:[/b]
fairy feller's master stroke,[/QUOTE]
oh no, sorry, never.
studio version is perfection.
the existence of one recorded live version of a song doesn't make it better. also, FWIR, wasn't most of the rainbow overdubbed?
[/QUOTE]
this...in your opinion..
I Know all the story about the March version(pitch correct..etc etc..)..but i think the color of Freddie's voice,and some varations..made the song most powerful and granitic..
Yes..there were doubt if was totally a real live recording...but..with this diamond..who really care?!?
[QUOTE] [b]magneddu wrote:[/b]
fairy feller's master stroke,[/QUOTE]
oh no, sorry, never.
studio version is perfection.
the existence of one recorded live version of a song doesn't make it better. also, FWIR, wasn't most of the rainbow overdubbed?
[/QUOTE]
this...in your opinion..
I Know all the story about the March version(pitch correct..etc etc..)..but i think the color of Freddie's voice,and some varations..made the song most powerful and granitic..
Yes..there were doubt if was totally a real live recording...but..with this diamond..who really care?!?
Chief Mouse
[QUOTE] [b]Sebastian wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]noorie wrote:[/b]
I am surprised nobody has thought of See What A Fool I've Been. I totally dislike the album version[/QUOTE]
To be fair, there's no album version, as it was not on an album. It was the B-side of a single.
[QUOTE] [b]noorie wrote:[/b]
Another live version which is much better is You Take My Breath Away at Earl's Court.[/QUOTE]
I disagree. Sometimes less is more, but sometimes more is more.
Piano < Piano, Guitars and Percussion.
Great lead vocal < Great lead vocal + great harmonies.
[QUOTE] [b]noorie wrote:[/b]
Also White Man performed in Houston. [/QUOTE]
Same:
1 Great Guitar < Many Great Guitars.
2 Great Backing Vocal Parts < 3-4 Great, Multi-Tracked, Massive, Backing Vocal Parts.[/QUOTE]
I think it's subjective and depends on what each person prefers. I personally like both live and studio version of You Take My Breath Away equally. Though depending on the mood sometimes I might prefer one of them over the other.
[QUOTE] [b]noorie wrote:[/b]
I am surprised nobody has thought of See What A Fool I've Been. I totally dislike the album version[/QUOTE]
To be fair, there's no album version, as it was not on an album. It was the B-side of a single.
[QUOTE] [b]noorie wrote:[/b]
Another live version which is much better is You Take My Breath Away at Earl's Court.[/QUOTE]
I disagree. Sometimes less is more, but sometimes more is more.
Piano < Piano, Guitars and Percussion.
Great lead vocal < Great lead vocal + great harmonies.
[QUOTE] [b]noorie wrote:[/b]
Also White Man performed in Houston. [/QUOTE]
Same:
1 Great Guitar < Many Great Guitars.
2 Great Backing Vocal Parts < 3-4 Great, Multi-Tracked, Massive, Backing Vocal Parts.[/QUOTE]
I think it's subjective and depends on what each person prefers. I personally like both live and studio version of You Take My Breath Away equally. Though depending on the mood sometimes I might prefer one of them over the other.