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[QUOTE] [b]mike hunt wrote:[/b]
I'm a fan of all four members of Queen, but it's silly to call out Freddie for one solo album that was recorded between The Works and Magic, but not call out Roger and Brian for 25 years of forgettable music. Bacelona was a work of art, almost on par with Queens best IMO. [/QUOTE]
I didn't call out Freddie, neither miraclesteinway nor k-m did. Good songs are good, and mediocre songs are mediocre. I already said that I liked several of his solo tracks. Now if you want to call our Brian and Roger for "forgettable music", fine, it's your taste. The thing I didn't agree in your old post is that you compare them to emphasis that Freddie is underrated as a songwriter. The two cases just can't be compared, for many reason.
First, Barcelona is a nice album but it's hardly Freddie's solo. It is co-written by him, Mike Moran and other people. It became critical acclaimed because of the duo between him and Montserrat Caballe. I wouldn't say he lit the world on fire on his own (as you criticized that B & R didn't).
Secondly, Brian had some decent solo stuffs back in the 90s too, and many people enjoyed them. I sure enjoy them as much as I enjoy Freddie's work. You may say it depends on personal preference, but quality wise it's not like Freddie's work are 3 times better than Brian's.
Thirdly, while Brian was in his creative mood, on 1998 Cozy Powell, his drummer mate in Brian May's band, suddenly died of motocar accident. It disrupted his upcoming tour and was surely a heavy blow for Brian on emotional level and professional level. He'd just got out of the depression caused by Freddie's death and his father's, then came Cozy's. Imagine a soft fellow who was so broken in "All dead, all dead" just because of his pet cat, now what these 2 friends and colleagues' death would mean to him. It's a miracle that he picked up the guitar and played again after those events, we couldn't ask anymore from him. It's unfair to judge his songwriting ability post 1998.
Fourthly, there's no evidence that if Freddie lives today he would fare better then B & R. All of them have given their best years to Queen, they have earned their rights to retire and do fluffy things.
Freddie was a great songwriter and performer. No need to pitch him against B& R. I think Queen's strength lies in the balance between 4 members, any attempt to break that balance will not give a good result. Freddie himself had realized it since 1985. Now, I also have my favorite member of the band, but I don't think he is any higher than the rest 3 ;)
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[QUOTE] [b]hobbit-in-Rhye wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]mike hunt wrote:[/b]
I'm a fan of all four members of Queen, but it's silly to call out Freddie for one solo album that was recorded between The Works and Magic, but not call out Roger and Brian for 25 years of forgettable music. Bacelona was a work of art, almost on par with Queens best IMO. [/QUOTE]
I didn't call out Freddie, neither miraclesteinway nor k-m did. Good songs are good, and mediocre songs are mediocre. I already said that I liked several of his solo tracks. Now if you want to call our Brian and Roger for "forgettable music", fine, it's your taste. The thing I didn't agree in your old post is that you compare them to emphasis that Freddie is underrated as a songwriter. The two cases just can't be compared, for many reason.
First, Barcelona is a nice album but it's hardly Freddie's solo. It is co-written by him, Mike Moran and other people. It became critical acclaimed because of the duo between him and Montserrat Caballe. I wouldn't say he lit the world on fire on his own (as you criticized that B & R didn't).
Secondly, Brian had some decent solo stuffs back in the 90s too, and many people enjoyed them. I sure enjoy them as much as I enjoy Freddie's work. You may say it depends on personal preference, but quality wise it's not like Freddie's work are 3 times better than Brian's.
Thirdly, while Brian was in his creative mood, on 1998 Cozy Powell, his drummer mate in Brian May's band, suddenly died of motocar accident. It disrupted his upcoming tour and was surely a heavy blow for Brian on emotional level and professional level. He'd just got out of the depression caused by Freddie's death and his father's, then came Cozy's. Imagine a soft fellow who was so broken in "All dead, all dead" just because of his pet cat, now what these 2 friends and colleagues' death would mean to him. It's a miracle that he picked up the guitar and played again after those events, we couldn't ask anymore from him. It's unfair to judge his songwriting ability post 1998.
Fourthly, there's no evidence that if Freddie lives today he would fare better then B & R. All of them have given their best years to Queen, they have earned their rights to retire and do fluffy things.
Freddie was a great songwriter and performer. No need to pitch him against B& R. I think Queen's strength lies in the balance between 4 members, any attempt to break that balance will not give a good result. Freddie himself had realized it since 1985. Now, I also have my favorite member of the band, but I don't think he is any higher than the rest 3 ;)
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[QUOTE] [b]hobbit-in-Rhye wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]mike hunt wrote:[/b]
I'm a fan of all four members of Queen, but it's silly to call out Freddie for one solo album that was recorded between The Works and Magic, but not call out Roger and Brian for 25 years of forgettable music. Bacelona was a work of art, almost on par with Queens best IMO. [/QUOTE]
I didn't call out Freddie, neither miraclesteinway nor k-m did. Good songs are good, and mediocre songs are mediocre. I already said that I liked several of his solo tracks. Now if you want to call our Brian and Roger for "forgettable music", fine, it's your taste. The thing I didn't agree in your old post is that you compare them to emphasis that Freddie is underrated as a songwriter. The two cases just can't be compared, for many reason.
First, Barcelona is a nice album but it's hardly Freddie's solo. It is co-written by him, Mike Moran and other people. It became critical acclaimed because of the duo between him and Montserrat Caballe. I wouldn't say he lit the world on fire on his own (as you criticized that B & R didn't).
Secondly, Brian had some decent solo stuffs back in the 90s too, and many people enjoyed them. I sure enjoy them as much as I enjoy Freddie's work. You may say it depends on personal preference, but quality wise it's not like Freddie's work are 3 times better than Brian's.
Thirdly, while Brian was in his creative mood, on 1998 Cozy Powell, his drummer mate in Brian May's band, suddenly died of motocar accident. It disrupted his upcoming tour and was surely a heavy blow for Brian on emotional level and professional level. He'd just got out of the depression caused by Freddie's death and his father's, then came Cozy's. Imagine a soft fellow who was so broken in "All dead, all dead" just because of his pet cat, now what these 2 friends and colleagues' death would mean to him. It's a miracle that he picked up the guitar and played again after those events, we couldn't ask anymore from him. It's unfair to judge his songwriting ability post 1998.
Fourthly, there's no evidence that if Freddie lives today he would fare better then B & R. All of them have given their best years to Queen, they have earned their rights to retire and do fluffy things.
Freddie was a great songwriter and performer. No need to pitch him against B& R. I think Queen's strength lies in the balance between 4 members, any attempt to break that balance will not give a good result. Freddie himself had realized it since 1985. Now, I also have my favorite member of the band, but I don't think he is any higher than the rest 3 ;)
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Sorry for the triple post, I never said Freddie solo was better than Brian. I'm saying it's not right using Freddie's Mr. Bad guy as proof of him not being a genius. I personally Think freddie and Brian were the Genius of Queen. Roger and John were also great of course. As far as Brian going through a rough patch in life. who hasn't? just because he's famous doesnt mean his problems are worse than ours. He had a good life.
Quadruple post, dude ^^
You scared me for a moment there.
I never said Freddie is not a genius either. Problem solved.
Nor did I say Brian's life is worse than ours. I was mentioning his Professional life. Have you ever seen any musician whose close band mate (for >20 years) died young, moving on, then another band mate died young, then still playing? Yeah Paul keeps playing after John is dead... oh wait, I forget that they are not friends.
