https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DfkKjT25qA
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dive2063
Hi! Maybe snow just applied the "old-movie" filter to the video and used the old audio mix? )
bodwinnumber2
Yeah looks and sounds like a slowed down version of the original VHS mix.
alberbal12
It is a snow producciones release... Obviously a fake one!
Kuijpy
I hate snow produccions!
mooghead
Its obviously someone pointing a camera at a screen. Daft Queen fans will still spunk over it though...
Mr.QueenFan
I like what i see.
Why do people disregard a thing before discussing it in a proper way?
First of all this audio mix wasn´t used in the VHS.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVwtLT9D9Pk
You can hear the differences in the intro guitar solo by Brian May.
I don´t see anything that says that this is a fake, so i´m willing to accept that this is what it is being advertised, unless someone can state some facts that i´m not aware of at the moment.
Thanks for the original poster for bringing this to my attention. I don´t know what it is, but latelly i´m enjoying more the bootleg stuff than the official videos. Weird!
Why do people disregard a thing before discussing it in a proper way?
First of all this audio mix wasn´t used in the VHS.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVwtLT9D9Pk
You can hear the differences in the intro guitar solo by Brian May.
I don´t see anything that says that this is a fake, so i´m willing to accept that this is what it is being advertised, unless someone can state some facts that i´m not aware of at the moment.
Thanks for the original poster for bringing this to my attention. I don´t know what it is, but latelly i´m enjoying more the bootleg stuff than the official videos. Weird!
The Real Wizard
This is just a rip of the old VHS.
It's the same guitar solo as on all the official releases - but it's a studio overdub done by Brian (the only guitar part overdubbed on the entire show).
It's the same guitar solo as on all the official releases - but it's a studio overdub done by Brian (the only guitar part overdubbed on the entire show).
Biggus Dickus
There's definitely a different guitar solo in the beginning on this so called theatrical version as opposed to the other versions. Also I noticed that even the Hungarian Rhapsody version solo is slightly different right at the end compared to the old Budapest release. So we've got three different solos.
pittrek
What makes you think it's fake? It has many artifacts typical for film, including scratches and little grain and they don't appear to be added digitally, they don't appear to be "over" the picture, but "inside" the picture if it makes sense. It has better colours than the VHS version and MUCH better colours than the new DVD/BD version. And there's more detail than in the VHS/LD version. Also 1987 35mm prints are in private hands, I got offered one several years ago (for a ridiculous amount of money). Hernan claims it's differently edited, did somebody of you guys compare this version to the official release? I didn't compare the sound mix but I'll try it when I get home.
So there are 2 possibilities :
1) somebody took the VHS tape or laserdisc, used some good upscaler to get it to 1080p and at the same time pull more details out of the picture, corrected the colours, and added some digital scratches
2) somebody who owns a 35mm print which was "liberated" from a Hungarian cinema transferred it to 1080p and gave a copy to Hernan
So there are 2 possibilities :
1) somebody took the VHS tape or laserdisc, used some good upscaler to get it to 1080p and at the same time pull more details out of the picture, corrected the colours, and added some digital scratches
2) somebody who owns a 35mm print which was "liberated" from a Hungarian cinema transferred it to 1080p and gave a copy to Hernan
Biggus Dickus
^^ To me the editing is the same as on both the old and new releases. Sonically the only difference that I noticed was the guitar solo in the beginning, which is a totally different.
Nitroboy
There is no way this is a VHS/Laserdisc rip, they don't have this much detail in the picture.
BETA215
[QUOTE]
[b]pittrek wrote: [/b] What makes you think it's fake? It has many artifacts typical for film, including scratches and little grain and they don't appear to be added digitally, they don't appear to be "over" the picture, but "inside" the picture if it makes sense. It has better colours than the VHS version and MUCH better colours than the new DVD/BD version. And there's more detail than in the VHS/LD version. Also 1987 35mm prints are in private hands, I got offered one several years ago (for a ridiculous amount of money). Hernan claims it's differently edited, did somebody of you guys compare this version to the official release? I didn't compare the sound mix but I'll try it when I get home.
So there are 2 possibilities :
1) somebody took the VHS tape or laserdisc, used some good upscaler to get it to 1080p and at the same time pull more details out of the picture, corrected the colours, and added some digital scratches
2) somebody who owns a 35mm print which was "liberated" from a Hungarian cinema transferred it to 1080p and gave a copy to Hernan[/QUOTE]
And if Hernán downscaled the HD version of Budapest, applied some filters and equalized (or directly copied) the VHS audio? That would make even more sense.
[b]pittrek wrote: [/b] What makes you think it's fake? It has many artifacts typical for film, including scratches and little grain and they don't appear to be added digitally, they don't appear to be "over" the picture, but "inside" the picture if it makes sense. It has better colours than the VHS version and MUCH better colours than the new DVD/BD version. And there's more detail than in the VHS/LD version. Also 1987 35mm prints are in private hands, I got offered one several years ago (for a ridiculous amount of money). Hernan claims it's differently edited, did somebody of you guys compare this version to the official release? I didn't compare the sound mix but I'll try it when I get home.
So there are 2 possibilities :
1) somebody took the VHS tape or laserdisc, used some good upscaler to get it to 1080p and at the same time pull more details out of the picture, corrected the colours, and added some digital scratches
2) somebody who owns a 35mm print which was "liberated" from a Hungarian cinema transferred it to 1080p and gave a copy to Hernan[/QUOTE]
And if Hernán downscaled the HD version of Budapest, applied some filters and equalized (or directly copied) the VHS audio? That would make even more sense.
Nitroboy
[QUOTE]
[b]BETA215 wrote:[/b] And if Hernán downscaled the HD version of Budapest, applied some filters and equalized (or directly copied) the VHS audio? That would make even more sense.[/QUOTE]
Listen to this [b]theatrical[/b] version, and then listen to the VHS version.... The audio is obviously not the same.
[b]BETA215 wrote:[/b] And if Hernán downscaled the HD version of Budapest, applied some filters and equalized (or directly copied) the VHS audio? That would make even more sense.[/QUOTE]
Listen to this [b]theatrical[/b] version, and then listen to the VHS version.... The audio is obviously not the same.
tomchristie22
I watched/listened to both this and the Hungarian Rhapsody version in sync.
Editing, as in shot choices and sequencing, is absolutely identical between the two of them.
Beta, Snow definitely didn't downgrade Hungarian Rhapsody, because his video is not vertically cropped, whereas Hungarian Rhapsody is, rather substantially. If he took it from a pre-existing release, it had to be from the VHS or Laserdisc, and as Nitro said, the detail of Snow's video seems to betray that that isn't the case.
To state the obvious, Hungarian Rhapsody has much more information on the left and right sides than Snow's clip which, like the VHS and Laserdisc version, is cropped into standard aspect ratio (or something close to it).
Audio seems to be a different mix, as others have said, though I'm no authority on this. The audio virtually the same in terms of content - the main difference is Brian's intro solo, which is either two differing overdubbed versions, or the same overdubbed version but positioned slighlty differently in time, enough so that the two versions sound out of time when synchronised. There's also a point a bit after 1:03 in Snow's video where Roger misses a snare hit - this is patched up somewhat on Hungarian Rhapsody.
Bizarrely enough, Roger doesn't miss the beat at all on the VHS and Laserdisc version (see: https://youtu.be/u0Zn3Ov5xUA?t=2m25s), but there's a noisy bit of microphone feedback which happens around the same time, which isn't present on either Snow's clip or Hungarian Rhapsody. I've no idea what to make of any of that.
I'd argue that the colour grading is inferior on Snow's version compared with Hungarian Rhapsody - skin tones look natural enough on Rhapsody when under white light, whereas they're very pale and blue in hue in Snow's video. Then again, since it looks as if Snow's video is a filming of the video being played on a screen or projected, that may be a problem in the recording device and not the film itself.
Editing, as in shot choices and sequencing, is absolutely identical between the two of them.
Beta, Snow definitely didn't downgrade Hungarian Rhapsody, because his video is not vertically cropped, whereas Hungarian Rhapsody is, rather substantially. If he took it from a pre-existing release, it had to be from the VHS or Laserdisc, and as Nitro said, the detail of Snow's video seems to betray that that isn't the case.
To state the obvious, Hungarian Rhapsody has much more information on the left and right sides than Snow's clip which, like the VHS and Laserdisc version, is cropped into standard aspect ratio (or something close to it).
Audio seems to be a different mix, as others have said, though I'm no authority on this. The audio virtually the same in terms of content - the main difference is Brian's intro solo, which is either two differing overdubbed versions, or the same overdubbed version but positioned slighlty differently in time, enough so that the two versions sound out of time when synchronised. There's also a point a bit after 1:03 in Snow's video where Roger misses a snare hit - this is patched up somewhat on Hungarian Rhapsody.
Bizarrely enough, Roger doesn't miss the beat at all on the VHS and Laserdisc version (see: https://youtu.be/u0Zn3Ov5xUA?t=2m25s), but there's a noisy bit of microphone feedback which happens around the same time, which isn't present on either Snow's clip or Hungarian Rhapsody. I've no idea what to make of any of that.
I'd argue that the colour grading is inferior on Snow's version compared with Hungarian Rhapsody - skin tones look natural enough on Rhapsody when under white light, whereas they're very pale and blue in hue in Snow's video. Then again, since it looks as if Snow's video is a filming of the video being played on a screen or projected, that may be a problem in the recording device and not the film itself.