Queen Studio Collection LP box set

[QUOTE] [b]dudeofqueen wrote:[/b]

Analogue tapes of the 5 songs that were then converted to digital.[/QUOTE]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Innuendo recorded digitally?
Why would there be the need to convert anything?

The Miracle album still had the fashionable DDD label on the back cover (recorded, mixed, and mastered Digitally), but by the 90's any newly recorded album would be fully digital unless otherwise stated.

That is correct, DDD - ADD or AAD

DDD-Digital Tape Recorder used during session recording, mixing and/or editing and mastering transcription

ADD-Analogue Tape Recorder used during session recording, digital Tape Recorder used during subsequent mixing and/or editing and mastering( transcription)

AAD-Analogue Tape Recorder used during session recording AND subsequent mixing and/or editing.
digital Tape Recorder used during mastering (transcription)

The point is not if Innuendo was or was not recorded in DDD. The real problem was the poor mastering. There is a big big difference between the original release and the last remaster by Universal. Now there will be also better takes than the ones used so far! I'm thrilled to know.

[QUOTE] [b]Claudio_CQI wrote:[/b]

The point is not if Innuendo was or was not recorded in DDD. The real problem was the poor mastering. There is a big big difference between the original release and the last remaster by Universal. Now there will be also better takes than the ones used so far! I'm thrilled to know.[/QUOTE]

I'm glad you understand the whole process of recording an album, and are thrilled for the relevant upgrades.

I would also recommend you to get the Japanese SHM-CD version of the album, and only listen to it during solar eclipses for maximum fidelity.

[QUOTE] [b]Claudio_CQI wrote:[/b]

The point is not if Innuendo was or was not recorded in DDD. The real problem was the poor mastering. There is a big big difference between the original release and the last remaster by Universal. Now there will be also better takes than the ones used so far! I'm thrilled to know.[/QUOTE]


I wouldn't be so sure that you're going to get 'better' quality versions of five songs on that album - the press release is vague enough with timelines that those 'newly found' masters may well already be represented on the 2011 CDs.

These 5 songs from analogue source already were used for 2011 remasters. There's a note about it in Innuendo SACD booklet.

Also the original CD is best digital source for customers so far.

2011 remaster is almost the same in EQ settings but it's destroyed by dynamic overcompression and clipping.

The weak point of the album is the mix not the mastering. Listen to Rtww and Headlong from companion CD and compare them to album cuts.
Mastering is the same but you'll find the hudge difference.

This box set is a nice idea, but I feel it's a wasted opportunity.

In 1985 we got 'The Complete Works' which included their live release at the time, and B-sides. Good stuff. Bit of a rip off if you already had all the albums and the singles, and I believe John Deacon wasn't so happy about it, but it's a nice set.

In 1988 all the albums were released on CD, and although I don't remember or know anything much about them, I believe they were full of flaws.

In 1993-1994 we got the Digital Master Series. They were still full of flaws - remember that noticeable 'click' on Fat Bottomed Girls'?

In 1995 we got that 'Pretty Cabinet' as it was dubbed by the Fan Club, with all the CDs pressed in gold colour picture discs. No B-sides, just the studio and live albums, with a hefty price tag at the time of something like £400 (that would be about £650 - £700 now). I felt this was a wasted opportunity.

Did 1998 not see some kind of repackaging of the first 8 albums again on 'mini vinyl' CDs? The digital master series repackaged?

Then in 2009 we got all the studio LPs (can't remember if we got the live albums) on black vinyl. Everyone at that time complained the pressings were of poor quality.

2008-2009 gave us those singles collection boxed sets, that looked like a great idea again, but somehow completely missed the mark.

2011 gave us the Bob Ludwig collection for the first time, and for some reason they decided to release both a 'standard' CD and a 'special edition' CD. Surely after all this time they could have just released the special edition ones and priced them sensibly?

Now 2015 is giving us the studio collection vinyl box. This could have been so much better, they could have packaged all the live albums in it and just made it a 'complete works', with Live at the Bowl, Montreal Forum, Wembley, we could have even had Live Magic but I'd be happy to forego that particular pressing in any form. We could have had a couple of LPs of B-sides and bonuses, maybe even 12" remixes, and the lately reworked material that appears on 'Forever', and they could give us an officially sanctioned LP with the unreleased tracks that are all over the internet/ Whilst even this would be a flagrant re-issuing of readily available material, it would have felt more honest and fit that enormous price-tag better. I know that limited runs of vinyl are expensive to press but Universal is dripping with money.

Funny to see old Kes on the QOL forum "working" for QPL still, desperately telling everyone how limited this box set is and that'll it'll be worth loads because of the coloured vinyl aspect LOL. I somehow doubt it - these big boxsets aren't instant collectables any more - chances are if you were to re-sell you'd lose money. If it was very limited, why would they not state this to encourage early sales? I suspect as with all modern releases like this that there is no known print limit yet - they will see how many copies are pre-ordered first. It isn't in their interests to limit something like this below what they can realisticly sell up to Xmas - why would they?! We're probably talking tens of thousands of copies of this boxset worlwide.

[QUOTE] [b]Biggest Band On The Planet wrote:[/b]

Remastering the albums in 24/96 is a joke.

Every mp3 player I have bought in the last few years supports 24/192.

24/96 was the standard for home audio 10 years ago now just about every new DAC will support 24/192.

For professional Remastering a even higher bit rate should be used.

If they wanted the "optimum quality" they should of remasted the albums in something like 32 bit/192 at a minimum.[/QUOTE]

LOL. I'm not sure anyone is going to miss the additional tape hiss that 24/96 will cut off. And it's "should HAVE".

I will wait for the mp3s to show up. I wonder what they have done with the sound this time.

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[b]Rick wrote: [/b] I will wait for the mp3s to show up. I wonder what they have done with the sound this time.[/QUOTE]

All evidence points to this being the 2011 mix being put on vinyl.

[QUOTE] [b]Claudio_CQI wrote:[/b]

The point is not if Innuendo was or was not recorded in DDD. The real problem was the poor mastering. There is a big big difference between the original release and the last remaster by Universal. Now there will be also better takes than the ones used so far! I'm thrilled to know.[/QUOTE]
What?! The original 1991 issue blows away the 2011 remaster. The mix is what it is, muddy as f, but mastering wise, there's no contest at all.

[QUOTE] [b]Estranged wrote:[/b]

[QUOTE] [b]Claudio_CQI wrote:[/b]

The point is not if Innuendo was or was not recorded in DDD. The real problem was the poor mastering. There is a big big difference between the original release and the last remaster by Universal. Now there will be also better takes than the ones used so far! I'm thrilled to know.[/QUOTE]
What?! The original 1991 issue blows away the 2011 remaster. The mix is what it is, muddy as f, but mastering wise, there's no contest at all.
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I agree. The 1991 Dutch pressing sounds best.

[QUOTE] [b]the dude 1366 wrote:[/b]

The sacd's were a complete ripoff as they were mastered painfully loud. [/QUOTE]

I don't agree, SACD are the best, sound wise for Queen albums, besides the DVD-A ANATO. They have the best dynamic range I ever heard and the volume levels are OK!
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If I want to experience(listen) Queen on vinyl for the first time I wouldn't buy some old shitty LP full of scratches, clicks and full of distorsion in the high range.

I already pre-ordered the box on amazon.ca for 447CDN --> 236GBP or 367USD

it's not cheap for us... it's just current economic woes that his recently devalued our dollar in comparison to the rest of the world.