Machines (Or Back To Humans)

*goodco* wrote:

Oscar J wrote:

Oh, so Van Halen is a pop band now?

If you reread it, that isn't what he said.

Breaks suggested Van Halen. Ogre said "Brensky, I see your point, but please mind that I mentioned "hard" rock and "synth pop", not pop with synths."

What am I missing?

brENsKi wrote:

Arnaldo "Ogre-" Silveira wrote:

Brensky, I see your point, but please mind that I mentioned "hard" rock and "synth pop", not pop with synths. I do not recall the bands you mention playing hard rock mixed with synth pop, the musical genre, sometimes also referred to as technopop. If that is the case, I might stand corrected.

As for now, I still believe that Queen did the mix of hard rock with synth pop better than ayone else at that point.

Cheers,

Ogre-

there is no "hard rock" on any of queens 80s' synth-based output. the bands i mentioned produced harder and (better( synth-based rock at that time (imo)

Amen! and, hence the reason Queen lost the USA.

brENsKi wrote:

Arnaldo "Ogre-" Silveira wrote:

Brensky, I see your point, but please mind that I mentioned "hard" rock and "synth pop", not pop with synths. I do not recall the bands you mention playing hard rock mixed with synth pop, the musical genre, sometimes also referred to as technopop. If that is the case, I might stand corrected.

As for now, I still believe that Queen did the mix of hard rock with synth pop better than ayone else at that point.

Cheers,

Ogre-

there is no "hard rock" on any of queens 80s' synth-based output. the bands i mentioned produced harder and (better( synth-based rock at that time (imo)

Not that "harder" in any way compares to 'better', but there's an argument that 'Tear It Up', 'Hammer To Fall', 'Gimme The Prize' could be classed as 'hard rock'.

If however you mean they didn't fall into a trap of churning out any of the formulaic and sterotypical US based hard rock of the time, then you're right, they didn't. They would have been quite capable of working with someone with Bruce Fairbairn or Bob Rock and releasing something akin to Aerosmith, Journey, Asia, Foreigner etc which would have probably sold handsomely in the US, but even in these mid 80s years when they lost a lot of their direction, that direction still didn't see them writing songs like, or copying the sound of, any other band.

" there's an argument that 'Tear It Up', 'Hammer To Fall', 'Gimme The Prize' could be classed as 'hard rock'. "

Except that there's no synths in those songs.

Oscar J wrote:

" there's an argument that 'Tear It Up', 'Hammer To Fall', 'Gimme The Prize' could be classed as 'hard rock'. "

Except that there's no synths in those songs.

Sorry - I thought we were just talking generally about that 'era' when they moved to synths (though HTF does feature a Fairlight synth?)

You're probably right. No prominent use of synths would probably be a better way to put it. :)

Fucking mint when played loud!!

I love RADIO GAGA for all the reasons described above. It WAS pretty much a demo bit of sarcasm turned into a kind of indictment of the era.

All the simple stuff and arpeggiation kinda lent to the tone ofthe song. Even if it wasn't intended it's still catchy and funny

It also would probably never work with a guitar solo. ... that said. ..Brian could really surprise you

The addition to the 2019 tour brings this song to highlight
great song, great guitar work

Radio gagatis a great song, genuine orchestration, beautiful melody and fine production.

Machines was another great example that Queen could do progressive things mixed with old elements. Lyrical is weak.

Hammerr to fall great rocker!

I wish one day some fans realise that Queen was never a rock band. Then they understand and appreciate every album and twist Queen music has.

Reminds me of playing my Spectrum.

Dim wrote:

I wish one day some fans realise that Queen was never a rock band. Then they understand and appreciate every album and twist Queen music has.

What a stupid thing to say or to think, when the whole basis of Queen is rock & roll. and live they were 100% rock act.
Even this song has loads of guitar sounds, so that a spectrum music comparison does not fit.

Just curious: is it confirmed that Roger does the machine voice part?

No one was thinking that in the first place?!

This song really got stuck in my head, here you go: hope it gets stuck in your little brains