Hard Rock Queen

[QUOTE] [b]The King Of Rhye wrote:[/b]

So what the hell is 'roto-punk' anyway? lol[/QUOTE]

i already referred to my typo - see above your post


and you (very well) know the point i'm making - thread said Hard Rock - OP said Hard Rock
Sheer Heart Attack is NOT Hard Rock

there are at least a dozen sub-genres of Rock - Hard Rock being one and Punk being another - they're as distinct as Soft Rock and Metal

Yeah, fair enough.....I see the point.

[QUOTE] [b]The King Of Rhye wrote:[/b]

[QUOTE] [b]brENsKi wrote:[/b]
and to those who say "punk" is still "rock" - that's akin to saying that "all cars are Fiats"
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That's a totally inaccurate analogy. That would be like if I had said "all rock is punk", but I'm not saying that. Punk is a genre of rock. It is called punk ROCK, after all.

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Completely true mate. Rock is rock.

Wiki is never a perfect source but Queen features on the hard rock page as below.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_rock

"Having enjoyed some national success in the early 1970s, Queen, after the release of Sheer Heart Attack (1974) and A Night at the Opera (1975), gained international recognition with a sound that used layered vocals and guitars and mixed hard rock with heavy metal, progressive rock, and even opera."

Its fair to suggest the heavier side of Queen can stray into hard rock, especially live.

[QUOTE] [b]stevelondon20 wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]The King Of Rhye wrote:[/b]
That's a totally inaccurate analogy. That would be like if I had said "all rock is punk", but I'm not saying that. Punk is a genre of rock. It is called punk ROCK, after all.
[/QUOTE] Completely true mate. Rock is rock.[/QUOTE]

You really think so? Ok. so "Lover's Rock" is also "Rock" is it?
No - it isn't - it's a sub-genre of Reggae. Perhaps [now] you get my point?

I find it interesting that some of the definitions of genres change....like some of the first bands that were called 'heavy metal', if they started today, they probably wouldn't be classified as that. Would people call a band like Steppenwolf or Blue Öyster Cult heavy metal nowadays? I don't think so.

(dangit, I guess I can't use any of those 'alt-plus-some-number' things for typing in weird things like Ö cus I'm on a laptop??)

If that gets you thinking, just look at what happened to Rhythm & Blues / R&B. Mindblowing. '50s R&B and '90s R&B aren't even remotely related!

Early Reggae, also quite an eye-opener. I can imagine that people used to New Orleans jazz might also have been shocked if they came to Chicago or Kansas City in the mid- to late 1920s.

In early 1974, Queen l was placed in the Progressive Rock racks in record stores..... I remember that clearly.

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[QUOTE] [b]Lplix wrote:[/b]- white queen
- let me entertain you
- save me[/QUOTE]
no. no. no.
Rock? - certainly not. two ballads and a pop song.

remove the above and add
Liar - Doing All Right - Ogre Battle - Seven Seas of Rhye
and you have a winner

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Coincidentally, I listened to the 1980-12-13 Brussels bootleg, and just before singing "Let Me Entertain You", Freddie said "Ok this is for Rock and Roll" :-)

yeah "rock n roll" not "hard rock" :-)

I would certainly classify Let Me Entertain You as hard rock by 1970's standards. The thin mix is letting it down a bit, but the elements are certainly there: tons of overdrive and amp feedback, quite intense drumming in places and a very aggressive vocal delivery by Freddie throughout.