A Night At The Odeon 1080 PAL Vs 1080 NTSC

[QUOTE] [b]pittrek wrote:[/b]

I can't agree, the financial reason makes no sense to me. They start with a PAL source. They convert the PAL source to NTSC. Meaning that both PAL and NTSC versions do exist, They don't really have to do another NTSC->PAL conversion.

They are probably doing the post-production ("remastering") work on the NTSC conversion, and that's the problem. A problem which could be easily solved by changing the workflow (with exactly the same costs - unless they're working with some non-standard proprietary software which works only with NTSC). And of course the factories manufacturing the discs would of course want more money but that's a different thing...

Why spend the extra money to make a PAL version when they can just as easily watch the NTSC version too ? Well, because the NTSC version looks like shit (I am talking about the movement, especially on the Rainbow March footage and the Tokyo footage).
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As far as I am aware, QPL do the work in PAL and supply Universal with that. They then do the NTSC conversion and author the disc.
One conversion, one disc author, one vision (as it were!).

Believe me, until I got my new TV a couple of years ago, I was the biggest opposer of Universal's NTSC transfers - the Wembley DVD looked bloody awful and I had a discussion with Brian about it whose ultimate answer was that he'd pass the info onto Kris.

I still am opposed to PAL being converted to NTSC, but these SD Blurays are causing me no problems at all. The DVDs are a different matter.

I recorded one of the BBC4HD showings, and although it was shown on an HD channel, the broadcast was NOT in HD. The audio was also not in multi channel format. I know the gig was shown two or three times in one night but I'm guessing each broadcast was in the same lower quality...?

Are you saying there was no difference between the BBC FOUR HD and SD channel broadcasts?

[QUOTE] [b]cmsdrums wrote:[/b]

I recorded one of the BBC4HD showings, and although it was shown on an HD channel, the broadcast was NOT in HD. The audio was also not in multi channel format. I know the gig was shown two or three times in one night but I'm guessing each broadcast was in the same lower quality...?[/QUOTE]

I only have the DVD so cant compare it to the blu-ray. Although the DVD is easier to watch the BBC4 showing has a sharper picture in comparison. The reason I say easier to watch is because the BBC showing has a strange jagged motion to it which sort of makes it seem blurred? The quality is like an 80's American tv show.

So I think it is in HD, just probably been the PAL to NTSC to PAL conversion.

does anybody know if hammersmith '75 box set on amazon.com has a region free blu ray? or maybe it's a1? i'm in a region b2 country so it would be really appreciated if someone can answer me cos i'd like to buy the box set frmo american amazon cos it's the cheapest i've seen so far.
https://www.amazon.com/Night-Odeon-DVD-Blu-ray-Box/dp/B0162Z97BO/ref=pd_sim_15_10?ie=UTF8&dpID=41clk9oDipL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR160%2C160_&refRID=WZK80MY43BKGP613XQ37

Region free, to my knowledge

thanks. cos i've seen that only blu ray for us market is region a1.

Pal converted to NTSC/60i retains all the PAL information and If done properly there should be no visible difference from the PAL master. The DVD however will lose information. It's best to stick with the Blu-Ray plus you get superior sound too.

Also, the rainbow footage was shot on 2" Quad Tape which produces 625 scan lines. This is Greater than PAL SD broadcast & PAL DVD standards. Hence the full master quality can only be reproduced via Blu-Ray or HD Broadcast.

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[b]Toozeup wrote: [/b] Also, the rainbow footage was shot on [b]2" Quad Tape which produces 625 scan lines.[/b] This is Greater than PAL SD broadcast & PAL DVD standards. Hence the full master quality can only be reproduced via Blu-Ray or HD Broadcast.[/QUOTE]

SD PAL does have 625 lines, but only 576 active lines.
SD NTSC has 525 lines, but only 480 active.

[QUOTE] [b]Toozeup wrote:[/b]

Pal converted to NTSC/60i retains all the PAL information and If done properly there should be no visible difference from the PAL master. The DVD however will lose information. It's best to stick with the Blu-Ray plus you get superior sound too.[/QUOTE]

Sorry, no. The problem doesn't lie in the lost resolution, the problem lies in the framerate conversion.

[QUOTE] [b]queenside wrote:[/b]

does anybody know if hammersmith '75 box set on amazon.com has a region free blu ray? or maybe it's a1? i'm in a region b2 country so it would be really appreciated if someone can answer me cos i'd like to buy the box set frmo american amazon cos it's the cheapest i've seen so far.
https://www.amazon.com/Night-Odeon-DVD-Blu-ray-Box/dp/B0162Z97BO/ref=pd_sim_15_10?ie=UTF8&dpID=41clk9oDipL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR160%2C160_&refRID=WZK80MY43BKGP613XQ37[/QUOTE]

Thanks a lot for the link. It's the best price I have found so far

few days ago there was incredible price on amazon.co.k i think it lasted for a few hours. the price was 12.99 pounds.
http://www.superdeluxeedition.com/deal/deal-alert-queen-night-at-the-odeon-super-deluxe-at-giveaway-price/

Just watching it on BBC4 now. Looks weird.

Also - during Now I'm Here did Roger always stand up during that stop in the drumming? Maybe I missed it for the last 25 years.

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[QUOTE] [b]mooghead wrote:[/b]
"Any thoughts?"
Is this what occupies your brain? [/QUOTE]
No, sometimes I think about punching your face.

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hahahahahahaa you made my day Durex