Holly2003
I, the Hollyverse, am certain no one has yet offered any evidence, or even a reasonable explanation, as to why UP supposedly means more in the Queenieverse than in the Bowieverse.
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Sebastian
[QUOTE] [b]Holly2003 wrote:[/b]
I, the Hollyverse, am certain no one has yet offered any evidence, or even a reasonable explanation, as to why UP supposedly means more in the Queenieverse than in the Bowieverse.
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Good for you! Congratulations!
I, the Hollyverse, am certain no one has yet offered any evidence, or even a reasonable explanation, as to why UP supposedly means more in the Queenieverse than in the Bowieverse.
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Good for you! Congratulations!
Holly2003
Yawn. Bored now.
Sebastian
[QUOTE] [b]Holly2003 wrote:[/b]
Yawn. Bored now.[/QUOTE]
Go away then.
Yawn. Bored now.[/QUOTE]
Go away then.
k-m
Just came across this poignant exchange prior to the FM tribute concert:
Rudi: What do you want Freddie to be remembered for?
DB: Oh Rudi, you're still wearing that jacket?
Rudi: (nervous laughter) What do you want Freddie to be remembered for?
DB: For better jackets than yours.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpT2ITxC0cw
Rudi: What do you want Freddie to be remembered for?
DB: Oh Rudi, you're still wearing that jacket?
Rudi: (nervous laughter) What do you want Freddie to be remembered for?
DB: For better jackets than yours.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpT2ITxC0cw
Apocalipsis_Darko
Gail Ann Dorsey is so great...
Sebastian
[QUOTE] [b]Apocalipsis_Darko wrote:[/b]
Gail Ann Dorsey is so great...[/QUOTE]
Totally.
Gail Ann Dorsey is so great...[/QUOTE]
Totally.
The Real Wizard
[QUOTE] [b]Costa86 wrote:[/b]
Dorsey, so talented, yet manages to be the least sexy woman in the world. She's a lesbian, right?[/QUOTE]
Why does that even matter?
Why is sexiness an inherent need for a woman in music or any other profession?
http://www.headstuff.org/2015/07/if-male-musicians-were-described-the-same-way-as-female-musicians
^ this.
Dorsey, so talented, yet manages to be the least sexy woman in the world. She's a lesbian, right?[/QUOTE]
Why does that even matter?
Why is sexiness an inherent need for a woman in music or any other profession?
http://www.headstuff.org/2015/07/if-male-musicians-were-described-the-same-way-as-female-musicians
^ this.
The Real Wizard
[QUOTE] [b]Supersonic_Man89 wrote:[/b]
I understand your point Holly2003...but i don't think artists like Queen, Bowie, Stones, Elton John etc. are measured by number one hits, they mean more than the charts. [/QUOTE]
If it's purely about #1 hits, then we only need to mention people like Dr Luke and the Funk Brothers, and little else comes close.
There's more to music than numbers.
I understand your point Holly2003...but i don't think artists like Queen, Bowie, Stones, Elton John etc. are measured by number one hits, they mean more than the charts. [/QUOTE]
If it's purely about #1 hits, then we only need to mention people like Dr Luke and the Funk Brothers, and little else comes close.
There's more to music than numbers.
Enchlore
[QUOTE] [b]k-m wrote:[/b]
Just came across this poignant exchange prior to the FM tribute concert:
Rudi: What do you want Freddie to be remembered for?
DB: Oh Rudi, you're still wearing that jacket?
Rudi: (nervous laughter) What do you want Freddie to be remembered for?
DB: For better jackets than yours.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpT2ITxC0cw[/QUOTE]
Well, Freddie did have some pretty good jackets.
Just came across this poignant exchange prior to the FM tribute concert:
Rudi: What do you want Freddie to be remembered for?
DB: Oh Rudi, you're still wearing that jacket?
Rudi: (nervous laughter) What do you want Freddie to be remembered for?
DB: For better jackets than yours.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dpT2ITxC0cw[/QUOTE]
Well, Freddie did have some pretty good jackets.
Holly2003
[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]Supersonic_Man89 wrote:[/b]
I understand your point Holly2003...but i don't think artists like Queen, Bowie, Stones, Elton John etc. are measured by number one hits, they mean more than the charts. [/QUOTE]
If it's purely about #1 hits, then we only need to mention people like Dr Luke and the Funk Brothers, and little else comes close.
There's more to music than numbers.
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No one, and certainly not me, is claiming that it's "purely about #1 hits".
[QUOTE] [b]Supersonic_Man89 wrote:[/b]
I understand your point Holly2003...but i don't think artists like Queen, Bowie, Stones, Elton John etc. are measured by number one hits, they mean more than the charts. [/QUOTE]
If it's purely about #1 hits, then we only need to mention people like Dr Luke and the Funk Brothers, and little else comes close.
There's more to music than numbers.
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No one, and certainly not me, is claiming that it's "purely about #1 hits".
k-m
[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]Costa86 wrote:[/b]
Dorsey, so talented, yet manages to be the least sexy woman in the world. She's a lesbian, right?[/QUOTE]
Why does that even matter?
Why is sexiness an inherent need for a woman in music or any other profession?
http://www.headstuff.org/2015/07/if-male-musicians-were-described-the-same-way-as-female-musicians
^ this.
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I don't think it's particularly wise to compare music to "any other profession", because it's not "any other profession". It's a very peculiar business, the showbiz, as you may have noticed perhaps. And so it happens that sexiness, fashion, good looks and other stuff like that matter a lot in it. Therefore, asking what you asked is like wondering why do people drink tea? I'm not saying I agree or disagree with such a state of things, but that's just the way it is.
[QUOTE] [b]Costa86 wrote:[/b]
Dorsey, so talented, yet manages to be the least sexy woman in the world. She's a lesbian, right?[/QUOTE]
Why does that even matter?
Why is sexiness an inherent need for a woman in music or any other profession?
http://www.headstuff.org/2015/07/if-male-musicians-were-described-the-same-way-as-female-musicians
^ this.
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I don't think it's particularly wise to compare music to "any other profession", because it's not "any other profession". It's a very peculiar business, the showbiz, as you may have noticed perhaps. And so it happens that sexiness, fashion, good looks and other stuff like that matter a lot in it. Therefore, asking what you asked is like wondering why do people drink tea? I'm not saying I agree or disagree with such a state of things, but that's just the way it is.
matt z
[QUOTE] [b]k-m wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]Costa86 wrote:[/b]
Dorsey, so talented, yet manages to be the least sexy woman in the world. She's a lesbian, right?[/QUOTE]
Why does that even matter?
Why is sexiness an inherent need for a woman in music or any other profession?
http://www.headstuff.org/2015/07/if-male-musicians-were-described-the-same-way-as-female-musicians
^ this.
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I don't think it's particularly wise to compare music to "any other profession", because it's not "any other profession". It's a very peculiar business, the showbiz, as you may have noticed perhaps. And so it happens that sexiness, fashion, good looks and other stuff like that matter a lot in it. Therefore, asking what you asked is like wondering why do people drink tea? I'm not saying I agree or disagree with such a state of things, but that's just the way it is.
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One thing that trumps that is that most of times beloved and cherished songs sung by women had actually been written by men.
Exceptions abound of course. There ARE the occasional Joni Mitchells and such but realistically.... it comes from the OTHER DOUBLE STANDARD that (*this might be hard for you to understand doing feminazi pc stuff) ..... IF YOU'RE INCREDIBLY BEAUTIFUL/HOT you DON'T HAVE TO BE TALENTED.
They'll build a production team around you.
Guys have to pull quite a bit more on their own.
What's the last great song you can remember being fully written by any of today's top female artists?
I'd vouch that the last to do her own was Norah Jones.
Of been around the studio with Colbie Caillat and she wasn't as talented as her dad and the group adorning her.
You might stretch back to PINK but that might end it.
This isn't counting bs like missy Elliott either. Anybodycan throw a dance hip hop thing as long as they have the attitude for DELIVERY (but it still boils down to her being a guy at heart)
[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]Costa86 wrote:[/b]
Dorsey, so talented, yet manages to be the least sexy woman in the world. She's a lesbian, right?[/QUOTE]
Why does that even matter?
Why is sexiness an inherent need for a woman in music or any other profession?
http://www.headstuff.org/2015/07/if-male-musicians-were-described-the-same-way-as-female-musicians
^ this.
[/QUOTE]
I don't think it's particularly wise to compare music to "any other profession", because it's not "any other profession". It's a very peculiar business, the showbiz, as you may have noticed perhaps. And so it happens that sexiness, fashion, good looks and other stuff like that matter a lot in it. Therefore, asking what you asked is like wondering why do people drink tea? I'm not saying I agree or disagree with such a state of things, but that's just the way it is.
[/QUOTE]
One thing that trumps that is that most of times beloved and cherished songs sung by women had actually been written by men.
Exceptions abound of course. There ARE the occasional Joni Mitchells and such but realistically.... it comes from the OTHER DOUBLE STANDARD that (*this might be hard for you to understand doing feminazi pc stuff) ..... IF YOU'RE INCREDIBLY BEAUTIFUL/HOT you DON'T HAVE TO BE TALENTED.
They'll build a production team around you.
Guys have to pull quite a bit more on their own.
What's the last great song you can remember being fully written by any of today's top female artists?
I'd vouch that the last to do her own was Norah Jones.
Of been around the studio with Colbie Caillat and she wasn't as talented as her dad and the group adorning her.
You might stretch back to PINK but that might end it.
This isn't counting bs like missy Elliott either. Anybodycan throw a dance hip hop thing as long as they have the attitude for DELIVERY (but it still boils down to her being a guy at heart)
k-m
I think the inevitable happened here. Someone commented on Gail Ann Dorset's image and it quickly turned into a discussion on sexism in the industry. I wasn't referring to that though. What surprised me is the fact that even Queen fans don't seem to appreciate that there is more to this than good songs and voices and that image is important. Btw, I think Adele is responsible for what she sings, just like PJ Harvey and Amy Winehouse (was). I agree that if you're mega hot, talent doesn't matter much, but it requires a lot of PR and is short lived usually.
The Real Wizard
[QUOTE] [b]k-m wrote:[/b]
I think Adele is responsible for what she sings[/QUOTE]
She's not. Look at the credits on her last record - Max Martin is in the picture now. Guys like this write 99% of the music on the radio.
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/10/hit-charade/403192
Even Adele is part of the system now.
I think Adele is responsible for what she sings[/QUOTE]
She's not. Look at the credits on her last record - Max Martin is in the picture now. Guys like this write 99% of the music on the radio.
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/10/hit-charade/403192
Even Adele is part of the system now.