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To my eyes, The Rainbow November 74 gig definitely has slightly better picture quality. Does anyone agree? I'm watching both from the blu-ray releases.

Just wondered: does anyone have any technical info about cameras used? Maybe the BBC cameras used for Hammy were slightly inferior to the privately hired cameras for The Rainbow?

I presume that both gigs were vision mixed live to 2" PAL QUAD tape (and that Hammy was captured to tape in the OB truck… not downstream at TV Centre!)

Thanks in advance!!
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Official Hammersmith '75 is for sure too dark. Unedited thing is very nice, but it's more blurry, than Rainbow '74.
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It's the same impression I got when I saw it for the first time: in my opinion it's way too dark.
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earwig wrote:

*NERDY POST FOLLOWS*

To my eyes, The Rainbow November 74 gig definitely has slightly better picture quality. Does anyone agree? I'm watching both from the blu-ray releases.

Just wondered: does anyone have any technical info about cameras used? Maybe the BBC cameras used for Hammy were slightly inferior to the privately hired cameras for The Rainbow?

I presume that both gigs were vision mixed live to 2" PAL QUAD tape (and that Hammy was captured to tape in the OB truck… not downstream at TV Centre!)

Thanks in advance!!


Rainbow was filmed for the intension to release this back in the days. Also for cinemas and other events. I believe Gary or Brooks told once Rainbow, Montreal and Budapest were the only concerts shot on 35 mm tape, as the Hammersmith is 2# inch tape.

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Queenman!! wrote:

earwig wrote:

*NERDY POST FOLLOWS*

To my eyes, The Rainbow November 74 gig definitely has slightly better picture quality. Does anyone agree? I'm watching both from the blu-ray releases.

Just wondered: does anyone have any technical info about cameras used? Maybe the BBC cameras used for Hammy were slightly inferior to the privately hired cameras for The Rainbow?

I presume that both gigs were vision mixed live to 2" PAL QUAD tape (and that Hammy was captured to tape in the OB truck… not downstream at TV Centre!)

Thanks in advance!!


Rainbow was filmed for the intension to release this back in the days. Also for cinemas and other events. I believe Gary or Brooks told once Rainbow, Montreal and Budapest were the only concerts shot on 35 mm tape, as the Hammersmith is 2# inch tape.



Rainbow wasn't captured on film, but on ordinary video tape. I think it was later on transferred for film or something like that.
35mm tape is not a thing :) So you surely mean 35mm film. And yeah, as already said above, it was shot on tape and then transferred to film for cinemas. And yep, Hammersmith is definitely made too dark (crushed blacks).
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Chief Mouse wrote:

35mm tape is not a thing :) So you surely mean 35mm film. And yeah, as already said above, it was shot on tape and then transferred to film for cinemas. And yep, Hammersmith is definitely made too dark (crushed blacks).



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Indeed mr. Mouse. BBC concert productions weren't the best around these days. Zooming in on a drummer when the guitarist did a solo. Noobs!
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earwig wrote:

Just wondered: does anyone have any technical info about cameras used?


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DGAA wrote:

earwig wrote:

Just wondered: does anyone have any technical info about cameras used?


Rainbow- Phillips (Norelco) PC-70 or PC-72


Thanks for this info!! Time to google them
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Chief Mouse wrote:

And yep, Hammersmith is definitely made too dark (crushed blacks).


Could this have been done at the colour correction/mastering stage?
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earwig wrote:

Chief Mouse wrote:

And yep, Hammersmith is definitely made too dark (crushed blacks).


Could this have been done at the colour correction/mastering stage?


I'd say yes. I don't think mastertape looked nearly as dark. The other versions like BBC and WOWOW are hardly as dark either.
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