Sacha Baron Cohen talks about Freddie Mercury Biopic on Howard Stern

[QUOTE] [b]Mr.Jingles wrote:[/b]

[QUOTE] [b]bucsateflon wrote:[/b]

Freddie biopic is for gay fanboys, I want a movie about the "Queen machine".Something like a Scorsese movie.
[/QUOTE]

A Scorsese style Freddie Mercury/Queen bio pic will start like this...

(Freddie narrating)
- "For as long as I can remember I always wanted to be a rock star. To me that was better than being president of the United States. To be a rock star was to own the world".

...and trust me, that movie will include all the nitty gritty aspects of Freddie's lifestyle.[/QUOTE]

"A Scorsese style Freddie Mercury/Queen bio pic", again with the Freddie gay shit biopic, aren't those documentaries enough?!!!
A "Queen" band dramatization of some real events...and

he can show him butt fucking the other guy while snorting some cocaine, still he wouldn't make it a gay soapy melodrama!

[QUOTE] [b]Mr.Jingles wrote:[/b]

[QUOTE] [b]bucsateflon wrote:[/b]

Freddie biopic is for gay fanboys, I want a movie about the "Queen machine".Something like a Scorsese movie.
[/QUOTE]

A Scorsese style Freddie Mercury/Queen bio pic will start like this...

(Freddie narrating)
- "For as long as I can remember I always wanted to be a rock star. To me that was better than being president of the United States. To be a rock star was to own the world".

...and trust me, that movie will include all the nitty gritty aspects of Freddie's lifestyle.[/QUOTE]

Don't feed the trolls. :D

[QUOTE] [b]The Fairy King wrote:[/b]



Don't feed the trolls. :D[/QUOTE]

Lol your avatar says it all, fanboy.

If Brian and Roger really want a sugar coated PG rated biopic of Queen/Freddie Mercury they should have it done 3D animated with LEGO characters.

^Queen: The Movie, by Pixar.

Kids get a free John Deacon balloon and adults go in half-price.

[QUOTE] [b]Costa86 wrote:[/b]

^Queen: The Movie, by Pixar.

Kids get a free John Deacon balloon and adults go in half-price.[/QUOTE]

Come to think of it, that adult oriented animated film by Seth Rogen called 'Sausage Party' would be an excellent title for Freddie's biopic.

I can now see this veering off into some bizarre story lines - eg - the supposed 'bust-up' before Live Aid where the band fell out will culminate in Brian recording the masterpiece known as 'The Starfleet Project'.

I'm glad that John isn't involved as well otherwise the film would also show the extensive work that went into The Biggles Soundtrack.

Seriously this just shows why QP and especially Brian need to take a step back sometimes and listen to others opinions. We could have had a good biopic out there by now. Instead it's in development hell and will end up being some third-rate afternoon drama.

[QUOTE] [b]EDWOOD wrote:[/b]

I'm glad that John isn't involved as well otherwise the film would also show the extensive work that went into The Biggles Soundtrack.

.[/QUOTE]

John is involved as well. According to Brian he has read the scripts. I don´t know if John has veto power, but i´m sure the film goes ahead if the three of the remaining Queen members are happy with the way Freddie, the band, and Queen´s music is portrayed.

I would like Freddie bio to be focused on his musical skills. What it took for him to become the wonderful composer that he was. His relationship with the band, and the impact that his death has had on the remaining Queen members when they were recording "Made in Heaven".

His personal relationships are important, but not that importane for me, because it´s clear that the most important thing in Freddie´s life was music. But of course they would still have to touch on Mary Austin and Jim Hutton, and they could hint on his hedonistic lifestyle. But there´s a difference between portraying Freddie entering the bedroom with five other men, and actually filming what went on inside the bedroom, like it seems was the direction Sacha wanted to take the movie.

The way Sacha and Howard adress this issue is very disrespectful, because i don´t have a doubt that if Sacha was given the "Carte blanche" he would have no problem on fucking five other men on film (according to Howard suggestion).

I´m glad Brian and the other Queen members are making the decisions.

For those who need to see what goes on inside a bedroom when five men are together - and judging by this thread it seems to be a lot! - just go to xhamster.com and do search. Plenty of videos there to keep you guys happy.

edit - double post.

[QUOTE] [b]Mr.QueenFan wrote:[/b]

I would like Freddie bio to be focused on his musical skills. What it took for him to become the wonderful composer that he was. His relationship with the band, and the impact that his death has had on the remaining Queen members when they were recording "Made in Heaven".
[/QUOTE]

How would that be an interesting movie to general audiences? What are the plot points in his musical career that are going to intrigue non-Queen fans and film critics?

Think of "Amadeus", the acclaimed movie of Mozart by Milos Forman. It shows Mozart composing, but the movie isn't really about Mozart as a composer, it's about his life and particularly his relationship with Salieri. It's a great movie, but it wouldn't be so great if it only showed Mozart making music for two hours and ended happily with the main character smiling during end credits.

You can't make a Mozart movie focusing on his musical skills, you can't make a Freddie Mercury movie on his musical skills.

Freddie was a great musician, but there have been lots of great musicians in the world and that's not enough to build a movie around. How about a comparison to Mick Jagger or Iggy Pop, two rockers who also lived a wild life in the 60s/70s? If you made a movie about Iggy Pop, where you leave out his personal life with drugs and parties and everything, and only show Iggy Pop at his profession, do you think it would be a fascinating movie for everyone?

The thing is, movies about musicians rarely focus on making music, and they are not made because the music is wonderful in the opinion of fans of the particular artist. They are made because the musician had an interesting life, and the life story lends itself for a good movie on movie-making terms. Freddie actually had an interesting life story, one that could be worthy of a movie, but then you really need to make it about his LIFE and not his music. Hell, they made a lot of stuff up for "Amadeus" but they wouldn't have to make anything up for a Freddie biopic!

All the Queen and Freddie documentaries already exist for celebrating the musical legacy and fans don't seem to understand that an actual, scripted movie aimed at general audiences and cinemas is a completely different thing.

[QUOTE] [b]aion wrote:[/b]

[QUOTE] [b]Mr.QueenFan wrote:[/b]

I would like Freddie bio to be focused on his musical skills. What it took for him to become the wonderful composer that he was. His relationship with the band, and the impact that his death has had on the remaining Queen members when they were recording "Made in Heaven".
[/QUOTE]

How would that be an interesting movie to general audiences? What are the plot points in his musical career that are going to intrigue non-Queen fans and film critics? .[/QUOTE]

You should have quoted me on what i said next, and that way it would make more sense. But my answer to your question is:

I don´t care about general audiences or film critics. You want to know about what general audiences like? Here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4YRWT_Aldo

And who cares about film critics opinions anyway? They only going to like what they´re going to like. If they want to say bad things about the film they will, like music critics had donne in the past.

[QUOTE] [b]aion wrote:[/b]
Think of "Amadeus", the acclaimed movie of Mozart by Milos Forman. It shows Mozart composing, but the movie isn't really about Mozart as a composer, it's about his life and particularly his relationship with Salieri. It's a great movie, but it wouldn't be so great if it only showed Mozart making music for two hours and ended happily with the main character smiling during end credits. .[/QUOTE]


You could be right, if the story wasn´t bullshit. For me the only way to do a bio is to tell the truth. No Bullshit included to appeal to the general public. Or, tell people what it is - a romancised version of someone´s life!

[QUOTE] [b]aion wrote:[/b]
You can't make a Mozart movie focusing on his musical skills, you can't make a Freddie Mercury movie on his musical skills..[/QUOTE]

Of course you can! You can still adress the relationships, but with these two cats you can focus on their musical skills. Maybe not with Mick Jagger and Iggy Pop, but certainly with Mozart and Freddie Mercury.
What makes Mozart an interesting character is His music. Probably the greatest composer that ever lived - to me anyway - and that´s not interesting?
It´s their music and talent that makes Mozart and Freddie and Lennon and so forth, interesting in the first place. Nobody started to like Lennon because of his political views. It was his music! Then, many fans followed him politically, but it was his music that made him the legend that he is today.

[QUOTE] [b]aion wrote:[/b]
Freddie was a great musician, but there have been lots of great musicians in the world and that's not enough to build a movie around. How about a comparison to Mick Jagger or Iggy Pop, two rockers who also lived a wild life in the 60s/70s? If you made a movie about Iggy Pop, where you leave out his personal life with drugs and parties and everything, and only show Iggy Pop at his profession, do you think it would be a fascinating movie for everyone? .[/QUOTE]

Mick Jagger and Iggy Pop? Not even in the same league as Freddie. I don´t mean to offend their fans, but they are not great musicians - to me anyway - but i concede that they are great entertainers, wich is a very good thing in itself.
Basically you don´t find interesting nothing that has to do with talent. Yet, drugs and parties, and sex is what makes you and the general public go to the movies? I´m not interested in that, but i understand your point of view.

I always like to hear what comes after when people say "I loved Freddie Mercury", because i rarelly hear people talking about the great musician that he was. If he was only about being a great frontman, i wouldn´t be here. His musical talent is what i find interesting.

[QUOTE] [b]aion wrote:[/b]
... Freddie actually had an interesting life story, one that could be worthy of a movie, but then you really need to make it about his LIFE and not his music. (...) .[/QUOTE]

And that´s what you and others here don´t understand about Freddie. Music was his life! Mary Austin has stated in the past that when Freddie wasn´t able to sing anymore he stoped all medications to let himself go. So i understand why his bio should be about his music and his life. Because for me that is the same thing.

Having said this, of course i would love to know the impact that his sexuality has had on his personal life and choices and music. But that´s not the angle Sacha wanted for the film. Puting Freddie having sex and snurting coke on a party would be vulgar, even if true. And it would reduce Freddie to THAT!
And Sacha doesn´t give a shit about Freddie´s legacy, but i´m glad Brian does.
Of course i don´t agree with the plot of having Freddie dying in the middle of the movie, but for now i´m skeptical that Brian would refer to Freddie´s death in the middle of the movie as "Something great" or something of the same effect.

[QUOTE] [b]aion wrote:[/b]
All the Queen and Freddie documentaries already exist for celebrating the musical legacy and fans don't seem to understand that an actual, scripted movie aimed at general audiences and cinemas is a completely different thing .[/QUOTE]

I understand, but i don´t care! Queen members and Freddie´s estate have all the right not to want Sacha fucking five other men on film while portraying Freddie Mercury. There are many ways of making an interesting movie about Freddie and his sexual lifestyle without turning it into a porn.

And i´m glad that Sacha isn´t part of the movie as well. While doing his Borat movie and Bruno he takes advantage of people and puts them is difficult situations. I´ve heard that people lost their businesses because of the movies. But here are some links for those interested in why Queen people may have a problem with Sacha portraying Freddie:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/11/13/AR2006111300329.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borat#Controversies

But i also understand that my version of the movie wouldn´t be the more popular right now, unless public consciousness changed very fast, which is not going to happen considering the box-office blockbusters and musical charts.
It´s an Artistic decision that Queen people will have to make.

^
"Funny" that you guys have mentioned "Amadeus". According to Mack, that was the movie wich Freddie used to tell him that he will die...
There is a scene where some guys put bodies in the muddy ground while it`s raining.

" Look...look...this is how I will end up"

[QUOTE] [b]Mr.QueenFan wrote:[/b]
[/QUOTE]

A reasonable man in this discussion. But not as reasonable as Brian and Roger. A movie supported by this two and QueenCo. about Freddie's personal life would be the most disrespectful thing they could do to Freddie.
So they won't do it.

I think all of the Queen team are smart enough to know that the only reason anyone would go to see a Queen movie is because of Freddie Mercury. All the live dvds have placed Freddie front and centre because if he isn't prominent then no one would buy it. Apart from The Bowl the rest of the band are nowhere to be seen on any cover. If it was all about ego surely it wouldn't be that.

Also Freddie is family, why is it so hard to understand why you would not want to show a family member in a bad light. Whether it be your sister or your brother, mother, or father. That's obvious isn't it. Some things will always have to stay behind closed doors. As it should.

Mr.QueenFan seems to be making assumptions here. Just because a lot of people want realism for the film, it doesn't mean we specifically want to see Freddie with five guys. I like to see all sides to Freddie's life. And let's face it; partying, sex and excess in all areas was a big part of his life for about a decade. If I want to see a Disney movie I go see one. This film shouldn't be one for the whole family.