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Innuendo Vs Made In Heaven

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No one but you would have been a nice addition to Made In Heaven. I know it was written later on, but still would have been nice on the 2011 remasters. It fits in with the theme of the album.
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[QUOTE] [b]cmsdrums wrote:[/b]

(Didn't Dave Richards do most of the work for YDFM?)[/QUOTE]

Not necessarily. He stretched the bare bones of Freddie's recordings so they'd be usable, and of course he did the mix, but that doesn't even come close to 'most of the work.' It was significant, instrumental, paramount, etc., but not 'most of the work.'


[QUOTE] [b]cmsdrums wrote:[/b]

It's a shame they didn't put some of Roger and John's working versions of the MIH tracks on as extras on the 2011 remasters. [/QUOTE]

Considering how tense that period could've been, I understand if they want to bury it. I do agree, of course, that it'd be interesting for us, but at the end of the day it's up to them.

[QUOTE] [b]mike hunt wrote:[/b]

No one but you would have been a nice addition to Made In Heaven. I know it was written later on,[/QUOTE]

To be fair, as far as I know, it was written around '94, so theoretically it could've fit the timeline.
John hated Hot Space. Frederick's favourite singer was not Paul Rodgers. Roger didn't compose 'Innuendo.' 'Bohemian Rhapsody' hasn't got 180 vocal overdubs.
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[QUOTE] [b]Sebastian wrote:[/b]

[QUOTE] [b]cmsdrums wrote:[/b]

(Didn't Dave Richards do most of the work for YDFM?)[/QUOTE]

Not necessarily. He stretched the bare bones of Freddie's recordings so they'd be usable, and of course he did the mix, but that doesn't even come close to 'most of the work.' It was significant, instrumental, paramount, etc., but not 'most of the work.'


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Not sure how reliable this Wiki entry is, but for YDFM it says:

"May has explained on his website[citation needed] that the producer for the band, David Richards, more or less created the framework of the song single handedly, building from bits of lyrics recorded just before Mercury's death. May has said that before Richards' work, there was no song to speak of. However, after Richards edited and mixed the song (including a bit of harmonies recorded for "A Winter's Tale"), he presented it to the remaining members of the band. Brian May, Roger Taylor, and John Deacon then added their instruments and backing vocals and were surprised to end up with a finished song that had begun as nothing".


As we know, Brian and Roger have often said that they had the art of recording backing vocals down to 'the sausage factory' (ie easy, and just churned out). Drums and bass are fairly 'vanilla' on that track, and whilst there is a lot of guitar, it's only one element of the final product.

Based on that I'd say that the mental and emotional energy, as well as physical time spent editing, compiling snippets, adding keys parts, etc.. along with defining the whole concept of the song, it could be justified that Richard did in fact do "most of the work" on it.

I'm not in any way stating this as definitive, but all things being equal, I'd wager that he could have spent far longer on that track, and had more of anyu influence on it, from start to finish than Brian, Roger and John combined.
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Here's Brian's original comment:

'As I remember, the bare bones of this song (and they were VERY bare!) were put down in the last sessions we did with Freddie in Montreux. When it came to piecing together Made in Heaven, the album, David Richards was keen to make the fragments into a finished song. I wasn't sure there was enough to work on! He got a long way with weaving textures around the vocal sections we had, stretching things out a little.

I think both Roger, and John who had had a lot to do with those original fragments in the beginning, went in and added some ideas. There came a point where finally I got enthusistic, and I spent a day or so, with Dave, putting down a lot of different riffy ideas that came to me while listening to the rough so far. Dave then moved a lot of things around, and worked his magic (mixing is his speciality - he rescued a lot of stuff in the past, including Duran Duran tracks, for instance) - and then we all sat around and said, "Didn't we just play that perfectly!" ha ha! Well, that's probably an over-simplification.... but ... there you have it!

I really like the track now - but not as much as I LOVE the title track, MADE IN HEAVEN, which I think is possibly the best sounding Queen track ever, and MOTHER LOVE, which is to me the most significant collaboration I ever had with Freddie ..... alongside the one afternon I spent with him on an embryonic verse of The Show Must Go On. I think I wrote about these things earlier .... But I digress... right ? !'
John hated Hot Space. Frederick's favourite singer was not Paul Rodgers. Roger didn't compose 'Innuendo.' 'Bohemian Rhapsody' hasn't got 180 vocal overdubs.
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Two of their best albums. I find myself listening to Made In Heaven a lot more though.
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Without a doubt Innuendo, in my opinion Innuendo is Queen's greatest album pure genius.

The Hitman is a great song freddie's vocals on that track are incredible
oo la la
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What's the point in comparing track to track in terms of the running order? Wouldn't it be best to compare songs by the style of song (compare bombastic ballad to bombastic ballad, Roger rocker to Roger rocker etc etc)
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'Made in Heaven' hasn't got any rocker from Rog.
John hated Hot Space. Frederick's favourite singer was not Paul Rodgers. Roger didn't compose 'Innuendo.' 'Bohemian Rhapsody' hasn't got 180 vocal overdubs.
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OK, I meant to say "for example", my song descriptions weren't meant to be taken literally...