Kuijpy
The supervisor Sebastian, he thinks that he knows everything and the other fans are stupid, very annoying guy!
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Costa86
^I don't agree. He just asked for evidence. A lot of what is discussed here, and pretty much anywhere really, is hearsay. Hearsay which people take as fact.
Sebastian is probably one of the few people here who haven't actually seen Queen live but who still have a lot to verifiable info to contribute. If you took him and a handful of other contributors away, this forum would be completely dead.
Sebastian is probably one of the few people here who haven't actually seen Queen live but who still have a lot to verifiable info to contribute. If you took him and a handful of other contributors away, this forum would be completely dead.
Sebastian
[QUOTE] [b]Kuijpy wrote:[/b]
he thinks that he knows everything[/QUOTE]
The only person who knows what you think is you, and the only person who knows what I think is myself. And no, I don't think I know everything. Not at all. If you read my posts you'll find out many instances when I've admitted to being wrong, because I don't know everything.
[QUOTE] [b]Kuijpy wrote:[/b]
and the other fans are stupid[/QUOTE]
No, I don't think other fans are stupid (with you, I do have my doubts, though). I just asked for evidence.
[QUOTE] [b]Costa86 wrote:[/b]
He just asked for evidence. A lot of what is discussed here, and pretty much anywhere really, is hearsay. Hearsay which people take as fact.[/QUOTE]
Let me put it this way: when I claimed 'Who Wants to Live Forever' had no bass I was asked for evidence; instead of saying 'just google it', I provided it; I was wrong, and once someone else (please forgive me for not remembering who exactly) pointed out clearly where the bass was audible, I checked it and immediately changed my stance, since the evidence was clear; when I claimed 'Dust' had synths, I was asked for evidence, and since I had been the one claiming so, the onus was on me to provide it; I did - and it turned out for that case I was right.
I'm sceptic about a Rolling Stones article as evidence since a lot of what is written in those mags is hearsay.
If Billy said it himself that's far stronger, but what did he say exactly? No answer was given. Compare the following hypothetical statements by Billy:
- 'It was great to work with Queen.'
- 'It was great to record with Queen.'
- 'When Bowie bailed out I was asked to replace him.'
- 'I did three takes of BVs on "Cool Cat" and then we went out for drinks.'
The first one means nothing in the context of 'Cool Cat' - he could've simply meant he'd worked with them by touring together, or that three quarters of them guested on his records at some point; the second one does not emphatically mean one song; the third one points at a plan having been made but not necessarily executed; the fourth one would confirm he recorded BV's but not necessarily that those BV's survived to the released version.
That's why I asked for the quote ... but so far nothing's been posted or linked.
Again, all those are different possibilities, and it's not B&W or grey: Billy could be one of the many uncredited guests, or maybe he did record BV's but they were excised from the final version for whichever reason, or maybe there'd been a plan for him to record them but there wasn't time, or maybe a coked Fred asked him to do it but then forgot, or maybe there was never any involvement and the whole story was fabricated. At this point, it's all hearsay as you said.
he thinks that he knows everything[/QUOTE]
The only person who knows what you think is you, and the only person who knows what I think is myself. And no, I don't think I know everything. Not at all. If you read my posts you'll find out many instances when I've admitted to being wrong, because I don't know everything.
[QUOTE] [b]Kuijpy wrote:[/b]
and the other fans are stupid[/QUOTE]
No, I don't think other fans are stupid (with you, I do have my doubts, though). I just asked for evidence.
[QUOTE] [b]Costa86 wrote:[/b]
He just asked for evidence. A lot of what is discussed here, and pretty much anywhere really, is hearsay. Hearsay which people take as fact.[/QUOTE]
Let me put it this way: when I claimed 'Who Wants to Live Forever' had no bass I was asked for evidence; instead of saying 'just google it', I provided it; I was wrong, and once someone else (please forgive me for not remembering who exactly) pointed out clearly where the bass was audible, I checked it and immediately changed my stance, since the evidence was clear; when I claimed 'Dust' had synths, I was asked for evidence, and since I had been the one claiming so, the onus was on me to provide it; I did - and it turned out for that case I was right.
I'm sceptic about a Rolling Stones article as evidence since a lot of what is written in those mags is hearsay.
If Billy said it himself that's far stronger, but what did he say exactly? No answer was given. Compare the following hypothetical statements by Billy:
- 'It was great to work with Queen.'
- 'It was great to record with Queen.'
- 'When Bowie bailed out I was asked to replace him.'
- 'I did three takes of BVs on "Cool Cat" and then we went out for drinks.'
The first one means nothing in the context of 'Cool Cat' - he could've simply meant he'd worked with them by touring together, or that three quarters of them guested on his records at some point; the second one does not emphatically mean one song; the third one points at a plan having been made but not necessarily executed; the fourth one would confirm he recorded BV's but not necessarily that those BV's survived to the released version.
That's why I asked for the quote ... but so far nothing's been posted or linked.
Again, all those are different possibilities, and it's not B&W or grey: Billy could be one of the many uncredited guests, or maybe he did record BV's but they were excised from the final version for whichever reason, or maybe there'd been a plan for him to record them but there wasn't time, or maybe a coked Fred asked him to do it but then forgot, or maybe there was never any involvement and the whole story was fabricated. At this point, it's all hearsay as you said.
The Real Wizard
[QUOTE] [b]Kuijpy wrote:[/b]
The supervisor Sebastian, he thinks that he knows everything and the other fans are stupid, very annoying guy![/QUOTE]
What a foolish comment to make.
Even assuming you're right, you're being no different because you're claiming to "know everything" about Sebastian without actually providing sound reasoning.
What exactly do you contribute to this place that's better or even on par to what he has done?
The supervisor Sebastian, he thinks that he knows everything and the other fans are stupid, very annoying guy![/QUOTE]
What a foolish comment to make.
Even assuming you're right, you're being no different because you're claiming to "know everything" about Sebastian without actually providing sound reasoning.
What exactly do you contribute to this place that's better or even on par to what he has done?
Kuijpy
He thinks he knows everything, everybody's thoughts are wrong except mister Seb. in Holland we call him a Mierenneuker.
So Sebastian, did u know that Freddie farted two times when he sang Ogre Battle?
So Sebastian, did u know that Freddie farted two times when he sang Ogre Battle?
Sebastian
[QUOTE] [b]Kuijpy wrote:[/b]
He thinks he knows everything[/QUOTE]
No, I don't think I know everything. There are plenty of posts (including two in this very thread) where I clearly state I don't think that.
[QUOTE] [b]Kuijpy wrote:[/b]
everybody's thoughts are wrong except mister Seb[/QUOTE]
No, not everybody's thoughts are wrong. Yours certainly seem to be, though. Very, very wrong. But not everybody's.
[QUOTE] [b]Kuijpy wrote:[/b]
So Sebastian, did u know that Freddie farted two times when he sang Ogre Battle?[/QUOTE]
No, I've no idea about that. But have you got evidence? Or should I just believe you for the sake of it?
He thinks he knows everything[/QUOTE]
No, I don't think I know everything. There are plenty of posts (including two in this very thread) where I clearly state I don't think that.
[QUOTE] [b]Kuijpy wrote:[/b]
everybody's thoughts are wrong except mister Seb[/QUOTE]
No, not everybody's thoughts are wrong. Yours certainly seem to be, though. Very, very wrong. But not everybody's.
[QUOTE] [b]Kuijpy wrote:[/b]
So Sebastian, did u know that Freddie farted two times when he sang Ogre Battle?[/QUOTE]
No, I've no idea about that. But have you got evidence? Or should I just believe you for the sake of it?
Sebastian
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