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Ken8
[QUOTE] [b]matt z wrote:[b]
Freddie also loved wealth. ... if not wealth, let's call it "financial comfort". I doubt she's qualified to make that judgement for a dead man. It DOES make for showing her disgust, and perspective.
If Freddie earned cash by sitting on his ass, who's to say he wouldn't have volunteered songs for the more risque products?
don't stop me now would feature in viagra, that's "for sure" ;-)
it's opinionated holier than thou-ism-ing. (*as if that's a word)
I don't mind the commercials, but I DO think he would've preferred to make his own musical instead of the rehashed plot and moronic play that is WWRY.
about the money ... we're talking about the man who dodgingly referred to his music as "disposable pop"... truth or humility, I think he would've cashed in.
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"I doubt she's qualified to make that judgement for a dead man." But you do? At least she knew the great man. You ever meet him?
Your argument is based on a hypothetical "what if" as opposed to the reality of what they've done to the Queen brand name in his absence. Freddie did say "We're a rock band, not a Broadway musical", but I agree with you on one thing, WWRY is moronic.
One thing is clear though, it's obvious I think Fred was/could have been more of a class act than you do
"Seduce you with his money-make machine
Cross-collateralize, (big-time money, money)
Reduce you to a muzak-fake machine
Then the last goodbye
It's a rip-off"
I wonder who wrote that?
Freddie also loved wealth. ... if not wealth, let's call it "financial comfort". I doubt she's qualified to make that judgement for a dead man. It DOES make for showing her disgust, and perspective.
If Freddie earned cash by sitting on his ass, who's to say he wouldn't have volunteered songs for the more risque products?
don't stop me now would feature in viagra, that's "for sure" ;-)
it's opinionated holier than thou-ism-ing. (*as if that's a word)
I don't mind the commercials, but I DO think he would've preferred to make his own musical instead of the rehashed plot and moronic play that is WWRY.
about the money ... we're talking about the man who dodgingly referred to his music as "disposable pop"... truth or humility, I think he would've cashed in.
[/QUOTE]
"I doubt she's qualified to make that judgement for a dead man." But you do? At least she knew the great man. You ever meet him?
Your argument is based on a hypothetical "what if" as opposed to the reality of what they've done to the Queen brand name in his absence. Freddie did say "We're a rock band, not a Broadway musical", but I agree with you on one thing, WWRY is moronic.
One thing is clear though, it's obvious I think Fred was/could have been more of a class act than you do
"Seduce you with his money-make machine
Cross-collateralize, (big-time money, money)
Reduce you to a muzak-fake machine
Then the last goodbye
It's a rip-off"
I wonder who wrote that?
Vocal harmony
[QUOTE] [b]Sunshine wrote:[/b]
I have seen it and I think it was a brave attempt. The visual detailing was at times very correct and precise. The way Freddie was drinking tea in bed for example and Freddie's clothing,
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Those things were the easiest thing to replicate. It's easy enough to look at old photos and use them as a template to build a scene around. For instance Freddie drinking tea in bed, doesn't that appear as a photo in the Jim Hutton book. Clothing again is easy to copy.
It's the more difficult things this failed on in every way. The script "darling", the story, the acting the bad choice of actors (in most cases),continuity. . . eg day light at 7pm in November.
Maybe it should be released on DVD with canned laughter at inappropriate moments for full effect!
I have seen it and I think it was a brave attempt. The visual detailing was at times very correct and precise. The way Freddie was drinking tea in bed for example and Freddie's clothing,
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Those things were the easiest thing to replicate. It's easy enough to look at old photos and use them as a template to build a scene around. For instance Freddie drinking tea in bed, doesn't that appear as a photo in the Jim Hutton book. Clothing again is easy to copy.
It's the more difficult things this failed on in every way. The script "darling", the story, the acting the bad choice of actors (in most cases),continuity. . . eg day light at 7pm in November.
Maybe it should be released on DVD with canned laughter at inappropriate moments for full effect!
AlbaNo1
[QUOTE] [b]Ken8 wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]matt z wrote:[b]
Freddie also loved wealth. ... if not wealth, let's call it "financial comfort". I doubt she's qualified to make that judgement for a dead man. It DOES make for showing her disgust, and perspective.
If Freddie earned cash by sitting on his ass, who's to say he wouldn't have volunteered songs for the more risque products?
don't stop me now would feature in viagra, that's "for sure" ;-)
it's opinionated holier than thou-ism-ing. (*as if that's a word)
I don't mind the commercials, but I DO think he would've preferred to make his own musical instead of the rehashed plot and moronic play that is WWRY.
about the money ... we're talking about the man who dodgingly referred to his music as "disposable pop"... truth or humility, I think he would've cashed in.
[/QUOTE]
"I doubt she's qualified to make that judgement for a dead man." But you do? At least she knew the great man. You ever meet him?
Your argument is based on a hypothetical "what if" as opposed to the reality of what they've done to the Queen brand name in his absence. Freddie did say "We're a rock band, not a Broadway musical", but I agree with you on one thing, WWRY is moronic.
One thing is clear though, it's obvious I think Fred was/could have been more of a class act than you do
"Seduce you with his money-make machine
Cross-collateralize, (big-time money, money)
Reduce you to a muzak-fake machine
Then the last goodbye
It's a rip-off"
I wonder who wrote that?
[/QUOTE]
My view is Queen balanced high commerce and high creativity for a while at their peak. The balance gradually shifted to commerce from early 80s with a minor shift back for Innuendo.
I think Freddie would have taken the easy money for the most part and maybe done something more interesting and creative every few years. Or maybe even have retired.
[QUOTE] [b]matt z wrote:[b]
Freddie also loved wealth. ... if not wealth, let's call it "financial comfort". I doubt she's qualified to make that judgement for a dead man. It DOES make for showing her disgust, and perspective.
If Freddie earned cash by sitting on his ass, who's to say he wouldn't have volunteered songs for the more risque products?
don't stop me now would feature in viagra, that's "for sure" ;-)
it's opinionated holier than thou-ism-ing. (*as if that's a word)
I don't mind the commercials, but I DO think he would've preferred to make his own musical instead of the rehashed plot and moronic play that is WWRY.
about the money ... we're talking about the man who dodgingly referred to his music as "disposable pop"... truth or humility, I think he would've cashed in.
[/QUOTE]
"I doubt she's qualified to make that judgement for a dead man." But you do? At least she knew the great man. You ever meet him?
Your argument is based on a hypothetical "what if" as opposed to the reality of what they've done to the Queen brand name in his absence. Freddie did say "We're a rock band, not a Broadway musical", but I agree with you on one thing, WWRY is moronic.
One thing is clear though, it's obvious I think Fred was/could have been more of a class act than you do
"Seduce you with his money-make machine
Cross-collateralize, (big-time money, money)
Reduce you to a muzak-fake machine
Then the last goodbye
It's a rip-off"
I wonder who wrote that?
[/QUOTE]
My view is Queen balanced high commerce and high creativity for a while at their peak. The balance gradually shifted to commerce from early 80s with a minor shift back for Innuendo.
I think Freddie would have taken the easy money for the most part and maybe done something more interesting and creative every few years. Or maybe even have retired.
Ken8
[QUOTE] [b]AlbaNo1 wrote:[/b]
I think Freddie would have taken the easy money for the most part and maybe done something more interesting and creative every few years. Or maybe even have retired.
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Sadly, none of us will ever know for sure. I still think he would've been more "classy" but I think one thing's certain, being such a private person I'm not sure he would've been too keen on this program
I think Freddie would have taken the easy money for the most part and maybe done something more interesting and creative every few years. Or maybe even have retired.
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Sadly, none of us will ever know for sure. I still think he would've been more "classy" but I think one thing's certain, being such a private person I'm not sure he would've been too keen on this program
matt z
Seduce you with his money-make machine
Cross-collateralize, (big-time money, money)
Reduce you to a muzak-fake machine
Then the last goodbye
It's a rip-off"
I wonder who wrote that?
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young and hungry Freddie.
he toyed around with the idea of his music just being disposable pop, but most would tell otherwise.
I'm not saying I'm qualified either. I thought it was quite clear that the thing is: NOBODY KNOWS if he'd cash in.
hell, even Pete Townsend's cashed in a few times.
it's just something that never came up, songs weren't marketed that way at the time; JINGLES WERE MADE.
given adult Freddie's public perspective (*sourced from interviews) it seemed that he might not give a flying fuck, as long as it kept the songs in the public forum. **( and incidentally sold more cds/downloads)
I don't think he'd sit on it and call it a day. Given the resurgence of animated films with HUGE musical content, I'm certain he would've given a shot at something like that had he survived. anyways it's all much speculation.
her comments are simply her opinions. Freddie's dead - Curtis Mayfield
Cross-collateralize, (big-time money, money)
Reduce you to a muzak-fake machine
Then the last goodbye
It's a rip-off"
I wonder who wrote that?
..
young and hungry Freddie.
he toyed around with the idea of his music just being disposable pop, but most would tell otherwise.
I'm not saying I'm qualified either. I thought it was quite clear that the thing is: NOBODY KNOWS if he'd cash in.
hell, even Pete Townsend's cashed in a few times.
it's just something that never came up, songs weren't marketed that way at the time; JINGLES WERE MADE.
given adult Freddie's public perspective (*sourced from interviews) it seemed that he might not give a flying fuck, as long as it kept the songs in the public forum. **( and incidentally sold more cds/downloads)
I don't think he'd sit on it and call it a day. Given the resurgence of animated films with HUGE musical content, I'm certain he would've given a shot at something like that had he survived. anyways it's all much speculation.
her comments are simply her opinions. Freddie's dead - Curtis Mayfield
The Real Wizard
Very astute observation !
Of course there's the possibility that his viewpoint changed over the course of a decade, and that he really did reduce his art to disposable. Considering he went from Bohemian Rhapsody to Body Language in seven years, it wouldn't be too much of a stretch.
And if that's the case, I bet he wasn't feeling that way by 1987.
Of course there's the possibility that his viewpoint changed over the course of a decade, and that he really did reduce his art to disposable. Considering he went from Bohemian Rhapsody to Body Language in seven years, it wouldn't be too much of a stretch.
And if that's the case, I bet he wasn't feeling that way by 1987.
Silken
I watched 8 minutes and I had to stop because it was cringeworthy. Another fan told me that it wasn't that bad, that I should keep on watching. I tried but I only managed to endure another 15 minutes.
I'm not interested in ridiculous (and inaccurate) reenactments of Freddie's private life.
The guy looks and sounds a lot like him, though.
I'm not interested in ridiculous (and inaccurate) reenactments of Freddie's private life.
The guy looks and sounds a lot like him, though.
maths15
[QUOTE] [b]Holly2003 wrote:[/b]
You all have no taste. It was brilliant. I particularly liked the guy who played Brian May, despite looking to be about 5 foot 7 inches tall. I also wasn't aware Brian played an Epiphone Les Paul with Bigsby tremolo system at Live Aid. Glad they set the record straight on that one. [/QUOTE]
I agree, It was fucking great. I loved Deacon's bright orange fright wig.
You all have no taste. It was brilliant. I particularly liked the guy who played Brian May, despite looking to be about 5 foot 7 inches tall. I also wasn't aware Brian played an Epiphone Les Paul with Bigsby tremolo system at Live Aid. Glad they set the record straight on that one. [/QUOTE]
I agree, It was fucking great. I loved Deacon's bright orange fright wig.
john bodega
meh, dildos.
The Fonz
[QUOTE] [b]The Fonz wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]Chinwonder2 wrote:[/b]
For anyone who would like to download it (I dunno why, it's horrible) here you go!
[url=https://mega.nz/#!J0VThZBb!Owqpm6jGVnwWufQdTClmdmIxZAGO6q_bAfxM2sTbv9I]https://mega.nz/#!J0VThZBb!Owqpm6jGVnwWufQdTClmdmIxZAGO6q_bAfxM2sTbv9I[/url]
-Chin[/QUOTE]
Thanks mate, much appreciated.
The Fonz
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Fonzie finally saw it over the weekend, and thoroughly enjoyed it. Top marks for pretend Fred.
[QUOTE] [b]Chinwonder2 wrote:[/b]
For anyone who would like to download it (I dunno why, it's horrible) here you go!
[url=https://mega.nz/#!J0VThZBb!Owqpm6jGVnwWufQdTClmdmIxZAGO6q_bAfxM2sTbv9I]https://mega.nz/#!J0VThZBb!Owqpm6jGVnwWufQdTClmdmIxZAGO6q_bAfxM2sTbv9I[/url]
-Chin[/QUOTE]
Thanks mate, much appreciated.
The Fonz
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Fonzie finally saw it over the weekend, and thoroughly enjoyed it. Top marks for pretend Fred.
Mr.Michael
This really wasn't that bad.
I thought it had some good points in it and you have to give the guy who played Freddie a lot of credit. That's really not an easy acting gig.
Supersonic_Man89 wrote an excellent "review" and he's spot on about many things.
-Why is Freddie constantly going "Deedoh, Deedoh" backstage?
-And what is this "Darling"-thing? I recently saw an interview with George Michaels former partner, Kenny Goss, and when he quoted George, every sentence had "Darling" in it. Is "Darling" supposed to be some kind of superword for gays?
-Freddies Live Aid-jeans were funny. The only jeans he wore? But maybe there's some truth in that! Check out the first ever footage from Freddie when he and his friends shot that video in 1964. You could almost argue he was already wearing his Live Aid-jeans!
My favourite parts of the biopic was when Freddie was concerned.
-When he and Jim saw that Rock Hudson had died Freddie looked very concerned in front of the TV. His anxious looks towards Jim were brilliant.
-Freddie was very nervous in the doctor's office. You could say he looked extremely concerned.
-When he saw the first KS on his shoulder and washes his hands because it's bleeding. He's not really concerned, he's actually panicking.
-The last show in Knebworth. Freddie is feeling it and he's looking quite concerned in the mirror before the show and after the show he's tired and apparently still a bit concerned.
-His friend from New York comes to visit him and tells about his own illness. While Freddie listens and comforts him he looks pretty concerned.
The cock-quote is actually pretty funny.
By the way, I thought Queen and Freddie's family didn't approve of this documentary. How did they get the permit to use their music and video clips?
I thought it had some good points in it and you have to give the guy who played Freddie a lot of credit. That's really not an easy acting gig.
Supersonic_Man89 wrote an excellent "review" and he's spot on about many things.
-Why is Freddie constantly going "Deedoh, Deedoh" backstage?
-And what is this "Darling"-thing? I recently saw an interview with George Michaels former partner, Kenny Goss, and when he quoted George, every sentence had "Darling" in it. Is "Darling" supposed to be some kind of superword for gays?
-Freddies Live Aid-jeans were funny. The only jeans he wore? But maybe there's some truth in that! Check out the first ever footage from Freddie when he and his friends shot that video in 1964. You could almost argue he was already wearing his Live Aid-jeans!
My favourite parts of the biopic was when Freddie was concerned.
-When he and Jim saw that Rock Hudson had died Freddie looked very concerned in front of the TV. His anxious looks towards Jim were brilliant.
-Freddie was very nervous in the doctor's office. You could say he looked extremely concerned.
-When he saw the first KS on his shoulder and washes his hands because it's bleeding. He's not really concerned, he's actually panicking.
-The last show in Knebworth. Freddie is feeling it and he's looking quite concerned in the mirror before the show and after the show he's tired and apparently still a bit concerned.
-His friend from New York comes to visit him and tells about his own illness. While Freddie listens and comforts him he looks pretty concerned.
The cock-quote is actually pretty funny.
By the way, I thought Queen and Freddie's family didn't approve of this documentary. How did they get the permit to use their music and video clips?
cmsdrums
[QUOTE] [b]Mr.Michael wrote:[/b]
This really wasn't that bad.
YES IT WAS
-Why is Freddie constantly going "Deedoh, Deedoh" backstage?
VOCAL WARM UPS
--Freddies Live Aid-jeans were funny.
NO THEY WEREN'T
The only jeans he wore?
NO
My favourite parts of the biopic was when Freddie was concerned.
-When he and Jim saw that Rock Hudson had died Freddie looked very concerned in front of the TV. His anxious looks towards Jim were brilliant.
-Freddie was very nervous in the doctor's office. You could say he looked extremely concerned.
-When he saw the first KS on his shoulder and washes his hands because it's bleeding. He's not really concerned, he's actually panicking.
-The last show in Knebworth. Freddie is feeling it and he's looking quite concerned in the mirror before the show and after the show he's tired and apparently still a bit concerned.
-His friend from New York comes to visit him and tells about his own illness. While Freddie listens and comforts him he looks pretty concerned.
YOU DO REALISE THOSE SCENARIOS (CERTAINLY THE REACTIONS BY FREDDIE) ARE ALL MADE UP/SUPPOSED/POETIC LICENCE??
.[/QUOTE]
This really wasn't that bad.
YES IT WAS
-Why is Freddie constantly going "Deedoh, Deedoh" backstage?
VOCAL WARM UPS
--Freddies Live Aid-jeans were funny.
NO THEY WEREN'T
The only jeans he wore?
NO
My favourite parts of the biopic was when Freddie was concerned.
-When he and Jim saw that Rock Hudson had died Freddie looked very concerned in front of the TV. His anxious looks towards Jim were brilliant.
-Freddie was very nervous in the doctor's office. You could say he looked extremely concerned.
-When he saw the first KS on his shoulder and washes his hands because it's bleeding. He's not really concerned, he's actually panicking.
-The last show in Knebworth. Freddie is feeling it and he's looking quite concerned in the mirror before the show and after the show he's tired and apparently still a bit concerned.
-His friend from New York comes to visit him and tells about his own illness. While Freddie listens and comforts him he looks pretty concerned.
YOU DO REALISE THOSE SCENARIOS (CERTAINLY THE REACTIONS BY FREDDIE) ARE ALL MADE UP/SUPPOSED/POETIC LICENCE??
.[/QUOTE]
Mr.Michael
All made up and poetic license?
Well, you could have knocked me over with a feather. And this whole time I thought it was really how Freddie reacted in those situations.
But then again, maybe Freddie's reaction was totally different when he saw Rock Hudson's death on the telly? "Well darlings, that faggot got what he deserved".
Well, you could have knocked me over with a feather. And this whole time I thought it was really how Freddie reacted in those situations.
But then again, maybe Freddie's reaction was totally different when he saw Rock Hudson's death on the telly? "Well darlings, that faggot got what he deserved".
Invisible Woman
I watched this a few months ago on You Tube, on the one hand I like it and on the other not.
Band members seem is ridiculous, they could have better haircuts.:D
The story of his illness is based on the writing of tabloids as it seems to me, that I don't like.
Band members seem is ridiculous, they could have better haircuts.:D
The story of his illness is based on the writing of tabloids as it seems to me, that I don't like.