Just curious...do we know exactly when the recording session for "Jazz" took place.
I`ve read that the album was mostly finished ( except bits and pieces ) around Freddie`s Birthday in 78. David Bowie made a statement that he is sure that the new album will deliver some "Hits"
Áfter the celebrations the band was planning to head for Nice to do finishing touches on that Album.
Sebastian · Member since
July to September but, alas, they're yet to give anything more specific than that.
The bicycle race incident took place on Brian's birthday.
strangefrontier · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]strangefrontier wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]
That's an excellent read - thanks for posting !
Any chance you could post the remaining page(s) ?
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No problem!
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Ahh - many thanks ! This is gold.
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No problem! I also found this picture last year of a Jazz promotional display in a shop window. I wonder if there are other shots of album displays in shop fronts?
mike hunt · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]dysan wrote:[/b]
I also rate Cool Cat quite highly so what do I know :)[/QUOTE]
I rate One Year Of Love quite highly so what do I know
The Real Wizard · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Panchgani wrote:[/b]
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[b]The Real Wizard wrote: [/b] [QUOTE] [b]Panchgani wrote:[/b]
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[b]The Real Wizard wrote: [/b] [QUOTE] [b]Panchgani wrote:[/b]
I never understood why Queen stopped performing the SYW "BBC version" early in the North American tour (and performed the tame studio version instead).[/QUOTE]
Maybe because they released it as a single in Europe in early 78, and they wanted to keep the song as people were used to hearing it on the radio? [/QUOTE]
But there was little or no airplay of SYW in North America, and Queen changed to the studio version early in the North American tour.
I wonder if John was not particularly fond of the fast ending, as it changes the mood of the song, and put his foot down as the writer's "perogative".[/QUOTE]
Yeah, perhaps that was the case.
But they definitely did the BBC style ending throughout the US tour. It's on the Philadelphia and New York recordings. [/QUOTE]
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When did Queen switch to the slow version? ... some time after Dec 1st?
Philly in Nov ... SYW was fast
NY Dec 1st ... SYW was fast
Chicago Dec 5th ... SYW fast or slow????
Houston Dec 11th ... SYW was slow[/QUOTE]
Chicago was fast.
And they didn't play it in Houston. Unless you've got a tape that none of us here have heard !?
Saint Jiub · Member since
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[b]The Real Wizard wrote: [/b] [QUOTE] [b]Panchgani wrote:[/b]
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[b]The Real Wizard wrote: [/b] [QUOTE] [b]Panchgani wrote:[/b]
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[b]The Real Wizard wrote: [/b] [QUOTE] [b]Panchgani wrote:[/b]
I never understood why Queen stopped performing the SYW "BBC version" early in the North American tour (and performed the tame studio version instead).[/QUOTE]
Maybe because they released it as a single in Europe in early 78, and they wanted to keep the song as people were used to hearing it on the radio? [/QUOTE]
But there was little or no airplay of SYW in North America, and Queen changed to the studio version early in the North American tour.
I wonder if John was not particularly fond of the fast ending, as it changes the mood of the song, and put his foot down as the writer's "perogative".[/QUOTE]
Yeah, perhaps that was the case.
But they definitely did the BBC style ending throughout the US tour. It's on the Philadelphia and New York recordings. [/QUOTE]
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When did Queen switch to the slow version? ... some time after Dec 1st?
Philly in Nov ... SYW was fast
NY Dec 1st ... SYW was fast
Chicago Dec 5th ... SYW fast or slow????
Houston Dec 11th ... SYW was slow[/QUOTE]
Chicago was fast.
And they didn't play it in Houston. Unless you've got a tape that none of us here have heard !?[/QUOTE]
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Nope ...
Evidently my mind transformed my disappointment that the fast SYW was not performed in Houston into a longstanding false memory that a slow version of SYW was performed. It seems that the slow version of SYW was never performed during the North American tour.
Thanks for setting me straight.
... apologies from a mere metallurgist ...
Sebastian · Member since
Being a metallurgist does not prevent you from being able to post accurate information and/or react maturely if/when corrected. That is on you, not your profession/job.
The Real Wizard · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Sebastian wrote:[/b]
Being a metallurgist does not prevent you from being able to post accurate information and/or react maturely if/when corrected. That is on you, not your profession/job.[/QUOTE]
He's referring to some other thread where he tried to disqualify me from a discussion because I was a musician.
So I guess now we're even !? ha !
Sebastian · Member since
I know that, but the point still stands.
IanR · Member since
I think the most interesting insight to be gleaned from the Jazz promotional material is the revelation that Fred was less than satisfied with NOTW.
Also, I believe Greg Brooks stated in a Record Collector article that only 13 tracks were demoed for Jazz and they were the same ideas that emerged on the final LP. Take that claim with or without as much salt as you want.
Sebastian · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]IanR wrote:[/b]
I think the most interesting insight to be gleaned from the Jazz promotional material is the revelation that Fred was less than satisfied with NOTW.[/QUOTE]
I was born long after that album, but my dad once told me he was surprised at the time by how comparatively little involvement from Frederick there was on 'News' - and he had a point: Brian sings lead on two, Roger on one (and a half), there's much less piano than on 'Races' and there's a lot less emphasis on harmonies ... so Fred didn't really have that much to do compared to the previous five records. It also makes sense in hindsight to realise something was wrong with him (again, compared to previous records) since he really only wrote two songs for the album - 'Champions' was actually rescued, since he'd written it at least two years prior but they hadn't recorded it yet.
[QUOTE] [b]IanR wrote:[/b]
Also, I believe Greg Brooks stated in a Record Collector article that only 13 tracks were demoed for Jazz and they were the same ideas that emerged on the final LP. Take that claim with or without as much salt as you want.[/QUOTE]
For the sake of argument, he could still be right: the four or five songs in question could've been discarded at rehearsal stages, before there could even be demos of them.
The Real Wizard · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]IanR wrote:[/b]
I think the most interesting insight to be gleaned from the Jazz promotional material is the revelation that Fred was less than satisfied with NOTW.[/QUOTE]
Indeed. And I've also heard a radio interview from right after NOTW was released where he more or less says that he recognizes Queen have hit their creative peak, as there's not much more they could do with harmonies and all that.
How right he was.
Saint Jiub · Member since
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[b]The Real Wizard wrote: [/b] [QUOTE] [b]IanR wrote:[/b]
I think the most interesting insight to be gleaned from the Jazz promotional material is the revelation that Fred was less than satisfied with NOTW.[/QUOTE]
Indeed. And I've also heard a radio interview from right after NOTW was released where he more or less says that he recognizes Queen have hit their creative peak, as there's not much more they could do with harmonies and all that.
How right he was. [/QUOTE]
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and after Jazz, they started using synths, and became mostly a singles machine with less use of piano, and less emphasis on Brian's unique guitar sound.
mike hunt · Member since
Doesn't mean he wasn't satisfied with NOTW, he Just mean't they peaked on that Opera/Races style and needed a new direction. That's why they went for a straight foward approach with NOTW. Freddie said his favorite album was The Game, so maybe for him that was another peak for Queen. He probably said that in the early 80's, so I wonder what his favorite would be now.
mike hunt · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Sebastian wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]IanR wrote:[/b]
I think the most interesting insight to be gleaned from the Jazz promotional material is the revelation that Fred was less than satisfied with NOTW.[/QUOTE]
I was born long after that album, but my dad once told me he was surprised at the time by how comparatively little involvement from Frederick there was on 'News' - and he had a point: Brian sings lead on two, Roger on one (and a half), there's much less piano than on 'Races' and there's a lot less emphasis on harmonies ... so Fred didn't really have that much to do compared to the previous five records. It also makes sense in hindsight to realise something was wrong with him (again, compared to previous records) since he really only wrote two songs for the album - 'Champions' was actually rescued, since he'd written it at least two years prior but they hadn't recorded it yet.
[QUOTE] [b]IanR wrote:[/b]
Also, I believe Greg Brooks stated in a Record Collector article that only 13 tracks were demoed for Jazz and they were the same ideas that emerged on the final LP. Take that claim with or without as much salt as you want.[/QUOTE]
For the sake of argument, he could still be right: the four or five songs in question could've been discarded at rehearsal stages, before there could even be demos of them.[/QUOTE]
Yea, freddie wrote less, but his vocal performances were very strong on News, and wrote the biggest hit along with Brians Rock you.
