The show at the Paris Theatre on 20 October 1973 should have been recorded by Radio 1 but the gig itself was pulled and the gig never played at all.[/QUOTE]
So we are now led to believe the whole audience were evacuated from the Theatre, despite the fact the Queen Archivist stating (in print) ''A recording of this show does exist, but the poor sound quality suggests it was made by a member of the audience.''
I will have no confidence in the ''facts'' quoted in any forthcoming revised and updated editions of ''Queen Live: A Concert Documentary'' I'm afraid.
I'll treat it like a novel, if it ever gets published that is.[/QUOTE]
The book was written before any of these facts were truly known, and only in the last few years have many of these shows been updated and corrected.[/QUOTE]
That's no excuse, a fact is ONLY a fact when it IS a fact.
It stands to reason you don't write a book claiming to be factual if you don't actually know the facts to begin with.
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brians wig · Member since
Hmmmm.
Quite often, "Fact" is "Fact" until it's proved incorrect!
To be fair. Greg Brooks originally put his book together by talking to other fans who had collected tapes for years: gathering their information and anecdotes.
When it first came out, it was a bloody good book and and an absolute God send to the rest of us who were still trawling Record Fairs at the time. If nothing else, it gave us ideas of which concerts were likely to be the most interesting to listen to and it also helped us weed out the blatant made-up venues that many "bootleggers" at the time claimed they came from in an attempt to fool the buyer and re-sell the same old concerts (which had been edited).
Sure. There are mistakes which, in the hindsight of over two decades of further information coming to light, new discoveries, new recordings and the coming together of fans from all over the world via the internet (which was barely out of nappies in 1995 when the book was first published), should ow have been corrected as best they can.
Against all odds and no help from QPL whatsover, he did an amazing job. I'm convinced it was his work on this book which actually got him the job at Queen's Archivist.
The new edition (which has been in the works for YEARS now, whist it's been cross-checked with all known available data), should be as close to "Fact" as we can possibly get: until such time as something new comes to light.
I'm looking forward to it.
The Real Wizard · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]brians wig wrote:[/b]
To be fair. Greg Brooks originally put his book together by talking to other fans who had collected tapes for years: gathering their information and anecdotes.
When it first came out, it was a bloody good book and and an absolute God send to the rest of us who were still trawling Record Fairs at the time. If nothing else, it gave us ideas of which concerts were likely to be the most interesting to listen to and it also helped us weed out the blatant made-up venues that many "bootleggers" at the time claimed they came from in an attempt to fool the buyer and re-sell the same old concerts (which had been edited).
Sure. There are mistakes which, in the hindsight of over two decades of further information coming to light, new discoveries, new recordings and the coming together of fans from all over the world via the internet (which was barely out of nappies in 1995 when the book was first published), should ow have been corrected as best they can.
Against all odds and no help from QPL whatsover, he did an amazing job. I'm convinced it was his work on this book which actually got him the job at Queen's Archivist.
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Yes - all correct.
But we're talking about the second edition from the mid-2000s, where there were even more mistakes than the original.
In the digital age, this was completely unacceptable.
The Real Wizard · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]GT wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]The Kurgan wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]GT wrote:[/b]
The show at the Paris Theatre on 20 October 1973 should have been recorded by Radio 1 but the gig itself was pulled and the gig never played at all.[/QUOTE]
So we are now led to believe the whole audience were evacuated from the Theatre, despite the fact the Queen Archivist stating (in print) ''A recording of this show does exist, but the poor sound quality suggests it was made by a member of the audience.''[/QUOTE]
This was a matter of his inability to hear that it was a lesser quality version of an existing show.
If it was just this error and a couple errors in the book, we'd give him a free pass - but there are literally hundreds of mistakes, plenty of which are things he added purely for the sake of filling in blank dates.
In any other field of historical research it'd be a disgrace to his field.
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Absolutely, which is why I took control and corrected mistakes, removed wrong text and added new info.[/QUOTE]
I can't imagine the minefield it was, being a voice of reason in an environment where reason was occasionally reasoned with.
Basically like most corporate jobs.
. · Member since
A minefield indeed, despite my rant, good luck with the project GT (although I won't be buying it again).
.... and perhaps update and revise that 1973 article on QOL!
Barry Durex · Member since
GT - Re Luxembourg on the 14th, the '95 book states it was planned to be broadcast on Radio Luxembourg but because of equipment failure nothing was recorded. Was the gig still itself played though, or did everyone get turned away?
cmsdrums · Member since
As I've previously stated in other posts, my confidence in Greg Brooks' factual accuracy and proof-reading skills has been sorely tested over the years, but was extinguished completely when I attended the 'Stormtroopers in Stilettos' exhibition, and was presented with a 6 ft high, 20 ft wide wall mural that claimed 'Bohemian Rhapsody' was a track on the Queen II album.
. · Member since
So how much of this is fact, and what exactly is in the archives?
NB: The BBC Radio schedules in the UK reveal it was only broadcast the one time, which was on October 20th 1973 at 6:30PM on Radio 1.
Peter Skellern was the other Artist featured in the one hour broadcast.
http://genome.ch.bbc.co.uk/schedules/radio1/england/1973-10-20
martin S · Member since
And the name of the city the first german gig took place is actually Bad Godesberg.
Tiny detail but nevertheless.
Cheers
GT · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Barry Durex wrote:[/b]
GT - Re Luxembourg on the 14th, the '95 book states it was planned to be broadcast on Radio Luxembourg but because of equipment failure nothing was recorded. Was the gig still itself played though, or did everyone get turned away?[/QUOTE]
Yes this gig still took place and was Queen's first concert outside the UK.
