Why would Queen 'Queenify' something that was not meant for Queen?[/QUOTE]
Coming from someone who's never heard the original on vinyl (*c'mon it WAS the 80's and DDD digital transfers even ADD were sketchy at best)
But. ... there's very little dynamic range expressed in the mix. I can't remember even BOTHERING to play the remastered version on my CD player back in the day 2001? Its just not a solid album. My whole focus was BARCELONA and the cheap 3 tracks given me (*in THE USA)
Luckily I'd pirated the rest within a month. If ever there was a "QUEEN" release worthy of the expense it was the FM SOLO COLLECTION.
NOT the "Queen Orb" or "Crown Jewels" (that was EMBARRASSINGLY BAD)
nor was it Wembley with the free port-a-potty smell and balloons.
The original mix is weak and you may be right. If may come down to the initial production. HOWEVER, you could potentially take those rough files and make a better mix.
Even the guitar all sounded "middy" on something like "let's turn it on"
A song where the gimmicks could've made a sonic atmosphere necessary (*slamming doors n what not)
dudeofqueen · Member since
matt z re:
>The original mix is weak and you may be right. If may come down to the initial production. HOWEVER, you could potentially take those rough files and make a better mix.
A turd can only be polished until you get a very shiny turd. After that.............?
cmsdrums · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]dudeofqueen wrote:[/b]
matt z re:
>The original mix is weak and you may be right. If may come down to the initial production. HOWEVER, you could potentially take those rough files and make a better mix.
A turd can only be polished until you get a very shiny turd. After that.............?[/QUOTE]
You can wrap a turd in silver foil but it doesn't make it a chocolate!!
Mark_Glasgow · Member since
IMO Mr Bad Guy is by far the best solo release by a band member and retained some of the fun of Queen albums, something sorely lacking in the releases from Roger and Brian. Not sure why it gets so much hate.
dudeofqueen · Member since
mark_Glasgow, re:
>Not sure why it gets so much hate.
Have you heard it? It's atrocious. A prime example of a rock musician given licence to do what he likes with his immense talent and completely buggering it up. File away with Keith Moon's "Two Sides Of The Moon" although that was only EVER going to be frivolous whereas Freddie took this entirely seriously until the point he realised that even his yes-men were saying "No"........
dysan · Member since
How did he take it seriously?
dudeofqueen · Member since
dysan, re:
>How did he take it seriously?
By approaching a record company to fund it. By working on it for two (!) years and using lyrical themes that were extremely personal to him that would not have fitted into Queen's material.
Mark_Glasgow · Member since
Lol @ took it too seriously, your question back to you...have you listened to it, and seen the videos for the singles....his sense of humour is in full flow. I know a lot of Queen fans get a bug in their ass about this and Hot Space because they were different, but the 70s were over and it was time to move on.
Sheer Brass Neck · Member since
^^^
Certainly a sense of humour shown for sure, but having a sense of humour can't save shit songs and production, and most of MBG was hideous despite the decade it was released, the tunes on this wouldn't get a look on Queen's 70s albums they were so bad.
dysan · Member since
@Dude Then we'll agree to disagree. Sure it's not the BEST album, but my argument is about the reasons given for why it's the worst. I don't think him seeking financing for it from a record label justifies that he had no sense of humour. Monty Python albums were funded by a record label.
Mark_Glasgow · Member since
@Sheer Brass Neck I think most of the songs are good enough to be on any Queen album in the 80s, agree not the 70s but you could say that for most of the stuff they released in the 80s as a group. Its not a rock album, and I think thats what upsets most people, its not even a Queen album, so why compare them? Im not an expert on production and mix, but a good song is a good song. His voice sounded great and the fact that they used some of the songs on Queens last album says it all really.
Thistle · Member since
I like MBG. In fact, it has a lot of sentimental value and there ARE some really good songs on there. Okay, there's also a few that aren't what you'd maybe call "Freddie's standard", but overall I don't get the hate for it. I remember back in the day hunting high and low for a copy of it. That was before eBay and the like were a big deal, and record stores simply just couldn't get a hold of it. The CD used to change hands for £100+ then lol.
musicland munich · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Thistleboy1980 wrote:[/b]
. I remember back in the day hunting high and low for a copy of it. That was before eBay and the like were a big deal, and record stores simply just couldn't get a hold of it. The CD used to change hands for £100+ then lol. [/QUOTE]
Woolworth sold them for around 5 Pounds as far as I recall. There is an advertising poster somewhere online.
mike hunt · Member since
The problem with MBG wasn't the songs, it was the direction he took with those songs. Brian always held freddie's writing in higher regard than the others. An example was hearing him talk about Love of My life or My Fairy King, Made In Heaven, then when he talks about Rogers Love with my Car he says its a nice little song from Roger. Total higher respect when talking about a freddie song. I compare Bad Guy with a great Boxer (i'm a big boxing fan) take the greatest fighter, Champion in the world, say Mike Tyson in the 80's, he had the greatest trainers, took him to the top, then when Tyson becomes champ, he's rich and famous and fires all the trainers that got him there. He then hires his friends and yes men too train him. He gets knocked out a few fights later and was never the same. I believe if freddie hired musicians on the same level as himself It would have been a much better album.
dysan · Member since
That's a fair point, but likewise it is why it is a Freddie Solo album. Arguably the 70s Straker / Mercury albums are pretty close to how a Freddie solo album in the 70s would've sounded - essentially like Queen. Freddie solo in the mid 80s sounded like MBG. Pretty much midway between Hot Space and The Works. IE a rough approximation of what a Queen album in 1985 would've sounded like. Especially considering that Mack and Mandel featured on it.
