3D in 1998? I'd be astonished.
I was there too, and Brian's voice was screwed. No way will this ever be released.
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e-man
[QUOTE] [b]Vocal harmony wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]Togg wrote:[/b]
How many nights did he do at the Albert hall? I seriously don't remember the filming... maybe I just didnt take it in[/QUOTE]
He played the Albert Hall on the second leg of the Back To The Light Tour as well. But only once on each occasion BTTL and Another World.[/QUOTE]
there's a quote from Brian where he says the Albert Hall 93 gig should have been released instead of Brixton.
I have the audience recording, and it is indeed a good gig
[QUOTE] [b]Togg wrote:[/b]
How many nights did he do at the Albert hall? I seriously don't remember the filming... maybe I just didnt take it in[/QUOTE]
He played the Albert Hall on the second leg of the Back To The Light Tour as well. But only once on each occasion BTTL and Another World.[/QUOTE]
there's a quote from Brian where he says the Albert Hall 93 gig should have been released instead of Brixton.
I have the audience recording, and it is indeed a good gig
Negative Creep
[QUOTE] [b]brians wig wrote:[/b]
Brian WAS having this trouble at a number of his '98 gigs. He said as much on stage a few times.
Some of us are old enough to have been there!
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Wow - what a smart arse. I may not have attended the Albert Hall gig, but I did Manchester, Sheffield and Nottingham on that tour thanks.
If there was such huge problems, why would anyone there expect it to be released then?
Anyway - any interference would be more likely affecting only the monitor and/or speaker systems. So whilst if there was an audible interference coming through the monitor the microphones would pick elements of that up, it should be that difficult to clean up by editing the multitracks.
Brian WAS having this trouble at a number of his '98 gigs. He said as much on stage a few times.
Some of us are old enough to have been there!
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Wow - what a smart arse. I may not have attended the Albert Hall gig, but I did Manchester, Sheffield and Nottingham on that tour thanks.
If there was such huge problems, why would anyone there expect it to be released then?
Anyway - any interference would be more likely affecting only the monitor and/or speaker systems. So whilst if there was an audible interference coming through the monitor the microphones would pick elements of that up, it should be that difficult to clean up by editing the multitracks.
Vocal harmony
e-man[QUOTE] [b]
As far as Cozy, no question that he was the heart and soul of that band. I do however think that Eric Singer did a great job. He's not cozy, but then again, no one is!
People said the same thing about Carl Palmer and Cozy When joined ELP. He's no Carl Palmer. . . .
I thought Eric Singer did a great job, he's a solid rock drummer, that's all that was needed in Brian's band.
As far as Cozy, no question that he was the heart and soul of that band. I do however think that Eric Singer did a great job. He's not cozy, but then again, no one is!
People said the same thing about Carl Palmer and Cozy When joined ELP. He's no Carl Palmer. . . .
I thought Eric Singer did a great job, he's a solid rock drummer, that's all that was needed in Brian's band.
people on streets
[QUOTE] [b]john bodega wrote:[/b]
unrelated, but can anyone explain this to me?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ux9K_G6YCJE
What the fuck was he thinking? Was Brian in a particularly dark place when he was doing this act? [/QUOTE]
I don't see what's wrong with it. It's not my taste sure. But there's nothing wrong with it imho.
unrelated, but can anyone explain this to me?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ux9K_G6YCJE
What the fuck was he thinking? Was Brian in a particularly dark place when he was doing this act? [/QUOTE]
I don't see what's wrong with it. It's not my taste sure. But there's nothing wrong with it imho.
dysan
Pretty good trousers.
The Real Wizard
[QUOTE] [b]john bodega wrote:[/b]
unrelated, but can anyone explain this to me?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ux9K_G6YCJE
What the fuck was he thinking? Was Brian in a particularly dark place when he was doing this act? [/QUOTE]
I'd say he was climbing out of it by that point.
I just watch this and think - what a fucking great band that was.
The energy from the audience is palpable, too. What a great atmosphere.
It's videos like this that remind me how all the Queen+ stuff probably wouldn't have happened had Cozy Powell not died. Brian was really happy in this band.
unrelated, but can anyone explain this to me?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ux9K_G6YCJE
What the fuck was he thinking? Was Brian in a particularly dark place when he was doing this act? [/QUOTE]
I'd say he was climbing out of it by that point.
I just watch this and think - what a fucking great band that was.
The energy from the audience is palpable, too. What a great atmosphere.
It's videos like this that remind me how all the Queen+ stuff probably wouldn't have happened had Cozy Powell not died. Brian was really happy in this band.
cmsdrums
[QUOTE] [b]The Real Wizard wrote:[/b]
It's videos like this that remind me how all the Queen+ stuff probably wouldn't have happened had Cozy Powell not died. Brian was really happy in this band.
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Indeed...if Cozy hadn't died then I don't believe Brian would have gone back to playing, and working extensively as 'Queen', with Roger; Brian seemed to have a good partnership with Cozy, and has often said that he was one of the few people he really trusted to bounce song ideas off and get an honest gut feeling on whether they were worth pursuing.
It's videos like this that remind me how all the Queen+ stuff probably wouldn't have happened had Cozy Powell not died. Brian was really happy in this band.
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Indeed...if Cozy hadn't died then I don't believe Brian would have gone back to playing, and working extensively as 'Queen', with Roger; Brian seemed to have a good partnership with Cozy, and has often said that he was one of the few people he really trusted to bounce song ideas off and get an honest gut feeling on whether they were worth pursuing.
Oscar J
[QUOTE] [b]cmsdrums wrote:[/b]
Indeed...if Cozy hadn't died then I don't believe Brian would have gone back to playing, and working extensively as 'Queen', with Roger; Brian seemed to have a good partnership with Cozy, and has often said that he was one of the few people he really trusted to bounce song ideas off and get an honest gut feeling on whether they were worth pursuing. [/QUOTE]
Sounds like Cozy should have said "No" a few more times. Hrrrm.
Indeed...if Cozy hadn't died then I don't believe Brian would have gone back to playing, and working extensively as 'Queen', with Roger; Brian seemed to have a good partnership with Cozy, and has often said that he was one of the few people he really trusted to bounce song ideas off and get an honest gut feeling on whether they were worth pursuing. [/QUOTE]
Sounds like Cozy should have said "No" a few more times. Hrrrm.
earwig
Apologies: as the topic starter I've only just read all the replies.
Thanks... some great information!!
I was there that night and recall A4 sized notices - with a DoRo logo at the top - on all the door saying something like "by attending this concert you consent to being filmed" or words to that effect. I now REALLY wish I'd 'liberated' one of these signs *cough*
I recall Since You've Been Gone being played early in the set but Brian forgetting to make the tribute announcement to Cozy until a few songs later. Would have been interesting trying to edit that back in!!
As far as radio interference: everyone was using UHF by the 1990s so there can't have been any 'Spinal Tap' moments. Regarding being shot in 3D... there was a 3D Doctor Who special filmed in a sort of 3D in the 1990s, but could be viewed normally too. Finally, HD cameras were probably invented by then but surely not practically being used. After all, DVD only came out in 1997 I think?!
Lastly my personal 2 cents...
Yes I agree the Conway Twitty thing was kind of embarrassing
Eric Singer is a FINE drummer and really not so different in style to Cozy Powell. RMT however is/was totally different in style...
Thanks... some great information!!
I was there that night and recall A4 sized notices - with a DoRo logo at the top - on all the door saying something like "by attending this concert you consent to being filmed" or words to that effect. I now REALLY wish I'd 'liberated' one of these signs *cough*
I recall Since You've Been Gone being played early in the set but Brian forgetting to make the tribute announcement to Cozy until a few songs later. Would have been interesting trying to edit that back in!!
As far as radio interference: everyone was using UHF by the 1990s so there can't have been any 'Spinal Tap' moments. Regarding being shot in 3D... there was a 3D Doctor Who special filmed in a sort of 3D in the 1990s, but could be viewed normally too. Finally, HD cameras were probably invented by then but surely not practically being used. After all, DVD only came out in 1997 I think?!
Lastly my personal 2 cents...
Yes I agree the Conway Twitty thing was kind of embarrassing
Eric Singer is a FINE drummer and really not so different in style to Cozy Powell. RMT however is/was totally different in style...
Oscar J
I don't like Powell's drumming much with May. He hits hard, sure, but it's not too creative.
e-man
I remember when I got the Brixton album it took a while to get used to Cozy's drumming on the Queen tracks! A heavy hitter, for sure.
Apart from Wembley 86, Brixton must be the most played live album in my collection. (perhaps a tie between Brixton and Springsteen's live album from the reunion tour in 99/2000)
Anyways; as I've said before; musically speaking, the QPR tours were basically the Brian May Band with a different drummer (certainly Cardiff 2008 when Neil Murray had to stand in), and that's when you really notice what a huge part of the Queen sound Roger Taylor is.
While Cozy, and CERTAINLY Eric Singer, are more technically skilled drummers than RT, the latter has his own unique style and touch which make him stand out. (and that's only the drumming, his vocals are no doubt distinctive too)
Cozy and Eric did a great job on the Queen tracks, both in their own way, but it never sounds quite right without RT.
Having said that; Albert Hall should still be released, regardless of what some people may think about the drumming / Brian's vocals that night. Some fine tuning can be done in the studio, which is the case on most live releases anyway
Apart from Wembley 86, Brixton must be the most played live album in my collection. (perhaps a tie between Brixton and Springsteen's live album from the reunion tour in 99/2000)
Anyways; as I've said before; musically speaking, the QPR tours were basically the Brian May Band with a different drummer (certainly Cardiff 2008 when Neil Murray had to stand in), and that's when you really notice what a huge part of the Queen sound Roger Taylor is.
While Cozy, and CERTAINLY Eric Singer, are more technically skilled drummers than RT, the latter has his own unique style and touch which make him stand out. (and that's only the drumming, his vocals are no doubt distinctive too)
Cozy and Eric did a great job on the Queen tracks, both in their own way, but it never sounds quite right without RT.
Having said that; Albert Hall should still be released, regardless of what some people may think about the drumming / Brian's vocals that night. Some fine tuning can be done in the studio, which is the case on most live releases anyway
The Real Wizard
[QUOTE] [b]e-man wrote:[/b]
Having said that; Albert Hall should still be released, regardless of what some people may think about the drumming / Brian's vocals that night. Some fine tuning can be done in the studio, which is the case on most live releases anyway [/QUOTE]
Maybe just a few tracks on a box set at most.
I remember hearing an audience tape of the show, and even when I was 16 I thought "damn, that was an off night."
Having said that; Albert Hall should still be released, regardless of what some people may think about the drumming / Brian's vocals that night. Some fine tuning can be done in the studio, which is the case on most live releases anyway [/QUOTE]
Maybe just a few tracks on a box set at most.
I remember hearing an audience tape of the show, and even when I was 16 I thought "damn, that was an off night."
popy
HD em 1993
[i]In 2002 D-Theater launched in the US - the dealers needed a demo tape of HD footage. JVC reused some HD video that had been shot as a demo for the Japanese HD market back in 1993. This footage would have most likely been originally used for a HiVision MUSE demo (an HD Broadcast, Tape & Laserdisc format).
You can determine that the year is 1993 by the adverts in Times Square - The Radio 501 CD that's advertised on a billboard came out in 1993 and Paper Moon is playing at the Marquis Theater.
For those wondering what HD video camera tech existed in 1993 - there are a few options, but it's likely that this footage was shot with a HDVS camera- perhaps a Sony SONY HDC-500 attached to a HDV-10 portable recorder which recorded on UniHi 3/4" tape.
BBC engineers demonstrate and describe their in-house developed HDTV 1250 line Digitally Assisted TV (DATV) system. This used a combination of analogue and digital data to broadcast the HDTV signal. Also covered are the Japanise MUSE HDTV system, satellite broadcasting, widescreen, and the Cinetrace pan & scan system.
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He basically talks about the European HDTV standart in the early 90's.
[url=http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_MEMO-92-28_en.htm]http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_MEMO-92-28_en.htm[/url]
[i]Highdefinition television in each of the pavilions along the Avenida de Europa The 1992 Seville World Fair will serve, like the Winter Olympics in Albertville and the Summer Olympics in Barcelona, both as a source of spectacular pictures and as a showcase for skills in HDTV technology. Thanks to close cooperation between the Member States, industrialists, producers, broadcasters, Retevision (a publicsector company responsible for operating television infrastructures in Spain) and EXPO '92, HDTV will be on show in all the pavilions on the Avenida de Europa. There will be showings of films made to the new HDTV standard and broadcasts covering events at the Fair and elsewhere, such as the Olympic Games in Barcelona. For the opening of the exhibition on 20 April 1992 this "European network" will also be showing a video programme entitled "Europe rediscovered or the return of Columbus" produced to the high- definition standard by the European Commission.
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Japan saw the Italy 90 World Cup in HDTV.
popy
Just one more, a gig from Bob Dylan shot in HD in 1992:
[url=http://www.bobdylan.com/news/30th-anniversary-concert-celebration-deluxe-edition-released-first-time-dvd-and-blu-ray/]http://www.bobdylan.com/news/30th-anniversary-concert-celebration-deluxe-edition-released-first-time-dvd-and-blu-ray/[/url]
[i]Struck from a new High Definition video master with remastered audio, The 30th Anniversary Concert Celebration – Deluxe Edition makes this historic all-star musical event available for the first time on DVD and Blu-ray.
[/i]With this i'm just showing that HDTV cameras were available in the 90's, and even in the 80's (if you bother to dig further), but they had lower resolution. I'm not saying that Brian gig in 1998 was shot in HD, but just saying HD was already available at the time.