Innuendo

Now I know that I havn't been on Queenzone for a while. When I was a regular here Innuendo was a fan favorite. Now it seems less so. I'll still stand by my opinion that Innuendo was the first proper album they did since THE Game, and possibly their best since News Of The World, though Jazz and The Game are close In excellence for me. Hot Space to The Miracle were uneven. Like 4 or 5 good songs per album.

"Innuendo" deserved a 25th-anniversary special edition. Dr Bri and Rog missed a chance to boost its appeal a little bit. It does get some recognition though, occasionally from unlikely sources: http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/queens-innuendo-remembering-freddie-mercurys-last-masterpiece-20160205 or http://ultimateclassicrock.com/queen-innuendo/

I think it's a very good album, Queen's best since NOTW, even though "The Game", "The Works" and "The Miracle" were also good in their own ways. But as you said, uneven. "Innuendo" was a long album too, which we mustn't forget considering the circumstances.

I think The Game is far better than Innuendo. If you take away the 'dying man with heroic determination' factor and just focus on the songs, Innuendo is still really good, but not *that* good.

Save Me, for instance, wasn't sung by an ailing fragile AIDS patient, but that doesn't change the fact it's an exceptional song - in my opinion, better than anything they did in the eighties and nineties.

It is now very difficult to disassociate Innuendo from the context in which it was written. I recall upon its release, personally there was a lot to like: Innuendo (daft but wonderful middle bit), Slightly Mad won me straight away, Bijou is gorgeous, Days of Our Lives, poignant. The Show Must Go On is just awesome. I hated Delilah and All God's People. I liked the rockier numbers for what they provided.

Post Freddie's passing, his ability to muster the tone and power (when needed), the humour, and sheer guts to keep on going is still something to marvel. All kudos to the band too who, in different ways provided Freddie the sanctuary to continue to create music. I sometimes think that the one who also retreated from the song writing process for whatever reasons was John.

[QUOTE] [b]Sebastian wrote:[/b]

I think The Game is far better than Innuendo. If you take away the 'dying man with heroic determination' factor and just focus on the songs, Innuendo is still really good, but not *that* good.

Save Me, for instance, wasn't sung by an ailing fragile AIDS patient, but that doesn't change the fact it's an exceptional song - in my opinion, better than anything they did in the eighties and nineties.[/QUOTE]
Some of those songs on side 2 of The Game that I disliked back in the day I like now. Rock It and coming soon grew on me over time. The last complete album they did until Innuendo. I also like Made In Heaven more than most of their 80's albums.

[QUOTE] [b]Sebastian wrote:[/b]

I think The Game is far better than Innuendo. If you take away the 'dying man with heroic determination' factor and just focus on the songs, Innuendo is still really good, but not *that* good.

Save Me, for instance, wasn't sung by an ailing fragile AIDS patient, but that doesn't change the fact it's an exceptional song - in my opinion, better than anything they did in the eighties and nineties.[/QUOTE]

Well, that's your opinion and it's absolutely fine, I just don't know why you seem to think I didn't judge the album on its merit, as opposed to looking at it through the prism of Freddie's illness? I appreciate your clinical assessment of the situation, but some of us are capable of objective judgement too. "Innuendo" gets 4 out of 5 stars from me, regardless of the circumstances.

The comment wasn't directed at you specifically. I was using an impersonal 'you', a generic substitute for 'one.' Rather than 'once one takes away the fact he was dying...,' I wrote 'once you take away the fact he was dying...,' or something to that effect.

No probs. Having considered it a bit more, I do think Brian and Rog missed an opportunity there last year. The reissue could have been a nice follow up to "Blackstar" and an interlude to everything that happened next, if promoted well.

I think The Show Must Go on is equal or even better than save me. It's a close call.

'The reissue could have been a nice follow up to "Blackstar" and an interlude to everything that happened next, if promoted well.'

I want some of what he's had.

I remember the first listen: hearing 15-30 seconds of the beginning of each song, as it was my second 'new' Queen CD. After my 'Hot Space' listening debacle with friends, I had to do bits and pieces of each song before hearing a Queen album straight through. And, for a change, it was amazingly good/great throughout (other than 'Delilah').

And then, I put the CD on, me and my wife played chess. And I got distracted. 'Damn, for a change, this whole frickin' album is good for the first time since 'The Game'.

I wish there was a bit more piano, instead of synths. Other than that, it was a return to the band that had blown me away during the 70s.

[QUOTE] [b]*goodco* wrote:[/b]

I remember the first listen: hearing 15-30 seconds of the beginning of each song, as it was my second 'new' Queen CD. After my 'Hot Space' listening debacle with friends, I had to do bits and pieces of each song before hearing a Queen album straight through. And, for a change, it was amazingly good/great throughout (other than 'Delilah').

And then, I put the CD on, me and my wife played chess. And I got distracted. 'Damn, for a change, this whole frickin' album is good for the first time since 'The Game'.

I wish there was a bit more piano, instead of synths. Other than that, it was a return to the band that had blown me away during the 70s.

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I agree with you, And also the piano bit. Even the piano on All Gods People was played by Moran, Not Mercury. I understand Moran was a better pianist, but I missed that Mercury style of playing like he did in the 70's.

[QUOTE] [b]k-m wrote:[/b]

"Innuendo" deserved a 25th-anniversary special edition. Dr Bri and Rog missed a chance to boost its appeal a little bit. It does get some recognition though, occasionally from unlikely sources: http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/queens-innuendo-remembering-freddie-mercurys-last-masterpiece-20160205 or http://ultimateclassicrock.com/queen-innuendo/

I think it's a very good album, Queen's best since NOTW, even though "The Game", "The Works" and "The Miracle" were also good in their own ways. But as you said, uneven. "Innuendo" was a long album too, which we mustn't forget considering the circumstances.[/QUOTE]

FUCKIN AYE!/NO SHIT!!

a 25th anniversary AND DVD/AUDIO+ VIDEO SUPPLEMENTAL *( CAUSE WE STILL DON'T DUCKING HAVE THEM ON DIGITAL U FUCKING RETARDS AT QPL!!!)

It would be amazing. Especially if you threw in a hybrid blu-ray with alternate mixes/the queen art films and isolated channels. (Easily done in blu-ray mastering)

Promote it this way with an advance remix project (*isolated vocals/alternate mixes) FAN PROMOTION and they'd have been cutting edge (*or APPEARED TO BE: as PUBLIC ENEMY did something similar in 2003) for once in their releases

It'd also be GREAT PROMOTION for the Tours.


I don't know what kind of thinking is behind such neglect

I think the album sounds very 1991. The dated production accusations thrown at Mr Bad Guy in the Mr Bad Guy thread could equally go here.

How Shove It has escaped the same..

[QUOTE] [b]dysan wrote:[/b]

I think the album sounds very 1991. The dated production accusations thrown at Mr Bad Guy in the Mr Bad Guy thread could equally go here.

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I agree. Those synths sound terrible too, even on excellent songs like TSMGO. Now imagine if that intro/recurring riff was played on Fred's piano or acoustic guitar instead of synth.

I understand why fans like the album because it's closer to their 1970s style than any of their other 1980s albums. And to be fair, if you put together the very best tracks from The Works, A Kind of Magic and The Miracle they probably still wouldn't make for a better album than Innuendo. That said, I hardly ever listen to it as apart from Innuendo, Days of Our Lives and TSMGO it feels to me like a sterile and cold album.