I might hurt some people, but it is what it is, I have to get it out my chest. Brian May on the guitar is only the shadow of his former self. He's not tight anymore playing guitar and solos, he has forgotten most of the things he used to play, he's plain awful in my opinion. Anyway, for me this whole Queen + thing is a complete farce.
conundrumme · Member since
Legacy mode is a polite way of saying them resting on their laurels - don't get me wrong, they earned it. But look at Paul McCartney: he's still very much into touring and making new music and working with new and different producers. I respect B & R still touring at their age, but wish they recognize that if they are serious with their legacy, they should play the songs -for this tour- that celebrates the NOTW Anniversary and then incorporate the well-known hits into the setlist. If they are so into pandering to the crowd, they should have taken a consensus on social media before the tour announcement. *rolls eyes*
Vocal harmony · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]RafaelS wrote:[/b]
I might hurt some people, but it is what it is, I have to get it out my chest. Brian May on the guitar is only the shadow of his former self. He's not tight anymore playing guitar and solos, he has forgotten most of the things he used to play, he's plain awful in my opinion. Anyway, for me this whole Queen + thing is a complete farce.[/QUOTE]
Maybe you could enlighten us as to what Brian can't remember? As for Queen+ being a farce. . . Only to some of those who don't like it. Remember the Queen + "farce" began in 92 at the Freddie tribute so you're making a huge statement!
RafaelS · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]Vocal harmony wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]RafaelS wrote:[/b]
I might hurt some people, but it is what it is, I have to get it out my chest. Brian May on the guitar is only the shadow of his former self. He's not tight anymore playing guitar and solos, he has forgotten most of the things he used to play, he's plain awful in my opinion. Anyway, for me this whole Queen + thing is a complete farce.[/QUOTE]
Maybe you could enlighten us as to what Brian can't remember? As for Queen+ being a farce. . . Only to some of those who don't like it. Remember the Queen + "farce" began in 92 at the Freddie tribute so you're making a huge statement![/QUOTE]
Go look numerous video on Youtube of Brian's poor guitar playing over the last few years. He misses notes, he doesn't remember how he played the solos of a lot of songs. It was okay to do the '92 Tribute Concert but everything after was not necessary in my opinion. But anyhow, they are touring, I can't change a thing about it, so those who enjoy it, it's all fine with me.
SweetCaroline · Member since
They are NOT boring! Go see them in Europe and the UK. They are magnificent!
LOTV · Member since
RafaelS · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]bucsateflon wrote:[/b]
you are saying stupid stuff
[QUOTE] [b]RafaelS wrote:[/b]
Go look numerous video on Youtube of Brian's poor guitar playing over the last few years. He misses notes, he doesn't remember how he played the solos of a lot of songs. It was okay to do the '92 Tribute Concert but everything after was not necessary in my opinion. But anyhow, they are touring, I can't change a thing about it, so those who enjoy it, it's all fine with me.
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Yeah like I care what you think. It's the same shit everytime someones voices another opinion. It's like we should all think the same thing like sheep. Shove it man, really, shove it.
Vocal harmony · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]RafaelS wrote:[/b]
Go look numerous video on Youtube of Brian's poor guitar playing over the last few years. He misses notes, he doesn't remember how he played the solos of a lot of songs. It was okay to do the '92 Tribute Concert but everything after was not necessary in my opinion. But anyhow, they are touring, I can't change a thing about it, so those who enjoy it, it's all fine with me.
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By the same token there are plenty of gigs were he gets it right too. To say he doesn't remember how he played solos from a lot of songs is an opinion but isn't fact as he doesn't continually make the same mistakes.
If he couldn't remember what he played all he'd have to do is back to the recordings and re learn things.
If you go back to the 70's and 80's shows, yes the band were younger and played with more energy but the mistakes or forgotten parts you seem to think are a recent thing happened from time to time back then too.
I think the biggest criticism that could be levelled at the band would be that at times some things sound a little under rehearsed, but to say Brian's forgotten how to play is unfounded criticism.
Invisible Woman · Member since
If I can give my humble opinion I think it's been a long time, and it's no wonder that Brian wrong in playing and he misses notes.
Younger musicians also wrong in playing and singing sometime and so what?
It's not the same 45,50 and 70 years and he's 70 years old.
But it still sounds good (how much I could hear on You Tube) and I admire him and I respect that he still performing live.
SweetCaroline · Member since
When I saw the show in Cleveland in July I was completely mesmerized by Brian's solo. And how clever was it that they had him perched up high in the palm of the robot's hand and then slowly brought him back to ground level right in front of the fans at the end of the catwalk!
RafaelS · Member since
Don't get me wrong people, Brian is one of the greatest guitar of all time, if not the best, but like Vocal Harmony has pointed it, I think the best way to describe Brian's performances nowadays would be under rehearsed.
ggo1 · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]RafaelS wrote:[/b]
Don't get me wrong people, Brian is one of the greatest guitar of all time, if not the best, but like Vocal Harmony has pointed it, I think the best way to describe Brian's performances nowadays would be under rehearsed.[/QUOTE]
I don't think its under rehearsed, I just don't think hes as flexible as he once was and maybe a bit slower. He definitely missed more than a few notes at the Toronto show, but having said that I thoroughly enjoyed the concert and thought the guitar solo was enjoyable. Lets be honest, Brian and Roger are both getting on and neither are as good as they used to be, but they haven't become terrible. If Freddie was alive and touring as a 70 year old man, he wouldn't be hitting the notes he used to either, but I'd still want to go.
There's a local singer plays shows at retirement homes round here, his name is Jumping Jimmy. He's been performing for 60 years and is in 80's now. His voice is shot and he no longer jumps except at the very end of the show when he makes a valiant attempt and gets at least 6 inches off the ground. I'm not sure what my point is, but artists like to keep performing even when they know they aren't what they used to be.
Togg · Member since
I'd say Brian's playing on this tour is more focused and polished than it has been in years, he seems to do much better when he's really enjoying himself. He never played the same solos each time anyway, in fact he can't he has always admitted that he plays whatever comes to mind rather than a perfect clone of the night before, on eof the reasons a Queen track doesnt repeat itself in each verse / chorus is because he just doesn't play like that and never has.
Lets be honest when you get to 70 try playing guitar exactly the same way you did when you were 20...
Vocal harmony · Member since
I agree in part with Togg on this. Brian is playing better than he's played for a while. Certainly better than with the PR line up. I've always felt he works best and is maybe pushed a little more if there is no 2nd guitar player.
Having said that, when Rush last toured they performed at a much higher level than Queen have since 2005 onwards. Currently the Rolling Stones seem to present a much better rehearsed/played show than Queen do. As I've said before I believe it's down to preparation, Queen seem to be a little "lazy" but to be fair to them I really do believe they tour because they enjoy it and part of that enjoyment is the fact that they feel they no longer have to compete with anyone as this is no longer their full time job.
Don't take this as a criticism or me saying that they're no good or not as good because that would be far from what I think.
RafaelS · Member since
[QUOTE] [b]ggo1 wrote:[/b]
[QUOTE] [b]RafaelS wrote:[/b]
Don't get me wrong people, Brian is one of the greatest guitar of all time, if not the best, but like Vocal Harmony has pointed it, I think the best way to describe Brian's performances nowadays would be under rehearsed.[/QUOTE]
I don't think its under rehearsed, I just don't think hes as flexible as he once was and maybe a bit slower. He definitely missed more than a few notes at the Toronto show, but having said that I thoroughly enjoyed the concert and thought the guitar solo was enjoyable. Lets be honest, Brian and Roger are both getting on and neither are as good as they used to be, but they haven't become terrible. If Freddie was alive and touring as a 70 year old man, he wouldn't be hitting the notes he used to either, but I'd still want to go.
There's a local singer plays shows at retirement homes round here, his name is Jumping Jimmy. He's been performing for 60 years and is in 80's now. His voice is shot and he no longer jumps except at the very end of the show when he makes a valiant attempt and gets at least 6 inches off the ground. I'm not sure what my point is, but artists like to keep performing even when they know they aren't what they used to be.[/QUOTE]
I agree that age has something to do with it, you can't be as fit as you were in your 20s-30s-40s, let's give Brian a chance. On a side note, Freddie once said that he wouldn't be touring and running on stage at 70 because it would look ridiculous. I think Freddie would still record albums and go into production for other artists but I think that would be it.
